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Would it be possible for necrons to be turned to chaos? whether it be possession or just turn to chaos or demonengines or anything like that? Ive always wondered and never really knew who to ask

I dont think so seing how they have no warp connections

No because there are no psychics among the necrons, just like with the tau there is no way for chaos to get inside their heads.

Also after the c'tan screwed them over do you really think they'd ever trust gods again?

Necrons cant use the warp and so there is no overlap between them and chaos except in the physical universe where armies fight it out.

Possession?

If Chaos can take over a Land Raider, it should be able to take over a Necron Warrior.

...and just how would they keep it long enough to perform a ritual binding into it? they have this habit of teleporting away you know.

Deamons dont willingly inhabit vehicles you know, the forces of chaos bind them against their will to make their own wargear stronger.

I think the ONLY way this would be possible is if some chaos force stumbles across a "broken" Tomb World (Maybe some cosmic event utterly fried that Tomb World's circuits so all that are left are a bunch of empty metal husks) and then bound daemons to these Necron husks.

Don't forget the good old Obliterator virus

hobojebus wrote:
...and just how would they keep it long enough to perform a ritual binding into it? they have this habit of teleporting away you know.

Deamons dont willingly inhabit vehicles you know, the forces of chaos bind them against their will to make their own wargear stronger.

Yes, Necrons can teleport away. But that isn't really a universal constant that can't be worked around if you want to make Chaos Necrons happen.

Maybe a Necron Dynasty ended up in the Eye and teleporting got them into trouble in the first place. Maybe some crazed out Overlord let himself be talked into a bad deal with a Tzeentch big-mofo in trying to reverse the entire Necron-curse. As above, maybe some Chaos types found an inert, dysfunctional Necron Tomb world. Maybe it was a Necron army whose teleports were simply not working.

It's not exactly inconceivable to pick some cause for Necron teleports not working if that is the thing that would stop you from creating a uniquely themed, creative army and hobby project.

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Don't forget the good old Obliterator virus

Which was sadly more or less retconned... Read the Obliterator entry in the CSM codex. Now it's just that warp exposure caused a fusing of metal and flesh.

I believe it might be possible (Chaos is chaos, after all), but highly unlikely. Remember that the Necrons engineered most of their technology to be highly resistant to psychic and warp effects due to the war with the old ones, even when they were mortal (and arguably had a soul) the Necrons had less of a warp connection than the Tau did, one that is now non-existent as a result of biotransference, and even in the new fluff the C'Tan are still in opposition to the warp (although they no longer rule the Necrons, the C'Tan still had a significant impact on the biotransference process). Thus, I would argue that it would be all but impossible for chaos to conventionally corrupt Necrons (some Necron vehicles, possibly, but not the Necrons themselves). A more likely approach would be that a chaos lord of some sorts could corrupt the programming of a sleeping tomb to make them loyal to him, but that would not only require a significant amount of technical knowledge which likely doesn't exist outside of Necron society, but would still not change their innate resistance to physical corruption by the warp.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chaos_Android

I know they retconned the Obliterator virus and it's now just an imperial rumor apparently, but i still like it and I'm going to run with it.

Necrons are the only faction that has absolutely no connection to the warp itself. Furthermore, they don't even have souls anymore.

So no, Necrons cannot become "chaos'd" by any means.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Possession?

If Chaos can take over a Land Raider, it should be able to take over a Necron Warrior.

A Land Raider got that "Spirit of the Machine" crap that every Imperial vehicle seems to have thus it can be possessed.

Not to mention that any Necron that would be part of an ritual or sth. would immediately be teleported back to the base - and there is not a single workaround for this mechanism.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Necrons are the only faction that has absolutely no connection to the warp itself. Furthermore, they don't even have souls anymore.

So no, Necrons cannot become "chaos'd" by any means.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Possession?

If Chaos can take over a Land Raider, it should be able to take over a Necron Warrior.

A Land Raider got that "Spirit of the Machine" crap that every Imperial vehicle seems to have thus it can be possessed.

Not to mention that any Necron that would be part of an ritual or sth. would immediately be teleported back to the base - and there is not a single workaround for this mechanism.

Sure they can, however they would have to start at the "heart" the innerworkings of a forgeworld.

I think it's actually a rather good concept, I can see Nurgle somehow infecting the Necrodermis and turning them under his control.

I could see Chaos Necrons in a sense. They wouldn't be Necrons who worship the dark powers, but instead the bodies of Necrons corrupted and put into service for the dark powers.

I don't think it would be too far-fetched for a strong chaos war host to find a tomb world and turn it. Necron warriors are just metal husks, they could be possessed same as any other mechanical beast that now inhabits the chaos armory. GW has seen fit to put in all of the deliciousness of forgefiends and warp smiths,so I don't think that there is any doubt that necrons could be turned to chaos with the greater look into how chaos use war machines.

While that is not the same as turning a human to chaos, the results would be the same. Thralls that are subservient to the ruinous powers. Any of the many powerful Lords that roam the universe could have had this idea and acted on it. In fluff, nothing is really "impossible." I think it'd make for a damn interesting story/narrative campaign.

Several battles where the necrons try to repel the war host, as they attempt to sabotage and convert the tomb worlds inner workings.

Sounds damn fun!

I was wondering because the thought of a chaos necron army seems incredible and would be challenging but very rewarding to make

I'm sure if you gave a chocs warpsmith a bunch of necrons, he'd figure out a way to cram some daemons in them eventually. They wouldnt get corrupted in the same way a mind would, but I dont see anything stopping them from becoming deamon engines. Rip out the necron essence, replace it with deamon essence.

As for the whole warping away thing: necrons only warp back to their tombworld/ship whatever. If that gets overrun, they have nowhere to go. Not to mention the amount of tomb worlds that apparently got looted while still in stasis.

I say go for it.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:


Sure they can, however they would have to start at the "heart" the innerworkings of a forgeworld.

Guess it's a misunderstanding. You could possibly reprogram Necrons by hacking the AI that's behind it, but alas, that seems to be impossible as there's no proof yet. I'd guess that it's either unhackable or the system just shuts itself down / blows up when someone tries to do so.

 McGibs wrote:
I'm sure if you gave a chocs warpsmith a bunch of necrons,

Impossible, stated in many threads many times. You can't get hold of Necrons. They "die", they disappear. No chance to keep hold of them.

 Sigvatr wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:


Sure they can, however they would have to start at the "heart" the innerworkings of a forgeworld.

Guess it's a misunderstanding. You could possibly reprogram Necrons by hacking the AI that's behind it, but alas, that seems to be impossible as there's no proof yet. I'd guess that it's either unhackable or the system just shuts itself down / blows up when someone tries to do so.

 McGibs wrote:
I'm sure if you gave a chocs warpsmith a bunch of necrons,

Impossible, stated in many threads many times. You can't get hold of Necrons. They "die", they disappear. No chance to keep hold of them.

Hacked and Corrupted are two different things. Even a CPU without an outside connection can become corrupted even if it can't be hacked.

Please don't go on and on about how they're the most sophisticated yada yada. Some things care not about intricate and sophistication

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:


Sure they can, however they would have to start at the "heart" the innerworkings of a forgeworld.

Guess it's a misunderstanding. You could possibly reprogram Necrons by hacking the AI that's behind it, but alas, that seems to be impossible as there's no proof yet. I'd guess that it's either unhackable or the system just shuts itself down / blows up when someone tries to do so.

 McGibs wrote:
I'm sure if you gave a chocs warpsmith a bunch of necrons,

Impossible, stated in many threads many times. You can't get hold of Necrons. They "die", they disappear. No chance to keep hold of them.

Hacked and Corrupted are two different things. Even a CPU without an outside connection can become corrupted even if it can't be hacked.

Please don't go on and on about how they're the most sophisticated yada yada. Some things care not about intricate and sophistication

Are we to make up our own fluff yet?

 Sigvatr wrote:


Are we to make up our own fluff yet?

That is the point.

Within the framework provided, which doesn't to me knowledge say it is impossible, creativity is the point of being in the hobby.

I just kinda thought it would be a fun different and creative concept/army

 Sigvatr wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:


Sure they can, however they would have to start at the "heart" the innerworkings of a forgeworld.

Guess it's a misunderstanding. You could possibly reprogram Necrons by hacking the AI that's behind it, but alas, that seems to be impossible as there's no proof yet. I'd guess that it's either unhackable or the system just shuts itself down / blows up when someone tries to do so.

 McGibs wrote:
I'm sure if you gave a chocs warpsmith a bunch of necrons,

Impossible, stated in many threads many times. You can't get hold of Necrons. They "die", they disappear. No chance to keep hold of them.

Hacked and Corrupted are two different things. Even a CPU without an outside connection can become corrupted even if it can't be hacked.

Please don't go on and on about how they're the most sophisticated yada yada. Some things care not about intricate and sophistication

Are we to make up our own fluff yet?

Yep, if I every play crons I'm gonna make them look like oldschool macs

if i ever do i may put a chaos esque spin on them i think it would be cool

I doubt it is possible, but I am damned sure that it is a lame idea. Folks are getting really desperate to stick their spikes and greenstuff tentacles to everything just to feel naughty for a while. At least it keeps them from making Chaos Tau and boob themed sisters

Its impossible in the sense of Necrons willingly falling and serving Chaos its quite possible that Chaos could take advantage of Necron, for lack of a better term, corpses. TO that effect I feel this would make better allied Necron forces rather then an army of Necrons.

They really wouldn't be Necron's by the end of the day, if a Warpsmith did acquire a Necron Warrior shell that had not phased out, he'd have to heavily modify it to remain in reality and disable the connection to the Necron thingymagig. Afterwards, he'd have to find a Sorcerer to bind a Daemon to the shell and see what will happen.

This would result in a long, expensive process which leads to.....

A slow, insane and ill devised plan which would be a waste of resources. The idea isn't possible, but it would be a Necron, and the time required would make it a poor choice.

I can see the argument that a warpsmith could possess Necron machines with daemons. Personally, though, I would think the living metal that Necron tech is constructed of would probably be able to shrug off the effects. I'm fond of the idea that Necron technology is so advanced and alien that no other race can even begin to understand how it works (which is not to say it's more powerful, just different). It's also why I prefer the old "inertialess drive" fluff over them using the webway. If they use a technology that is simply impossible as far as any other race knows, it really adds to their cool factor.

Back to the topic, I don't think you'd end up with a Chaos Necron. I think you'd end up (at best) with an ordinary metal frame, shaped like a Necron, with a daemon residing in it.