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noble 75

horse 12

hail of doom arrows 30

117

noble 75

horse 12

star-fire arrows 25

112

5 glade riders 120

musician 9

129*10=1290

10 glade guardsmen 120
120*4=480
1999

we will block out the sun,
the idea is to run circles around them while taking out their ranks i know its hard to kill units with them but its designed to make them run (the star fire arrows i think will be quite effective)
the musicians are there for when they charge me i can run away i also have so few in each squad so when the enemy charges with a huge squad or something they will kill only 5 per turn, they are also in small units for the purpose of enemy spells lick the plague spell i estimate that with in 5 turns the enemy can take out 15-25 models per squad he has and the people at my hobby store has like 20 to 80 per squad but that said he has to get to me first and i dealt he could kill my units in combat because ill be aiming to avoid combat so what do you think

You shouldn't post the point costs of items on the forums, GW gets rather upset about it due to copyright. And I'm not too sure that all those arrows will do any good if someone brings along anything with T6. As you would need 6's to even wound the bugger.

Thing is for a list like this, you will need to be able to destory a unit to be able to win a game, all you need for the margin of victory is 100 victory points. I personally do not believe that you have the capability to do this, also very few armies can run all core and Wood Elves unfortunately are not one of those.

If I were you, I would give up the idea of the mounted force and keep your core in the archers, combining two of the 10 elf units into a single unit of 20, give them a standard and the Banner of Eternal Flame. This unit will then become the focus of the entire opponents army which should hopefully be able to allow the rest of your list to counter any units threatening your main unit.

90 arrows a turn, say 60 hit, then 30 wounds against T3. With 5+ armour save you are looking at 20 dead models a turn from a force of 90. Against most hordes, that will be less than half a unit a turn.

While thats true, most armies that I encounter (at this points level) have a lot of threats that I don't think that this list will be able to cope with. Its fairly easy to be able to run a few of these units off the table each turn since there is no BSB for re rolls and even though the army has a decent leadership its bound to fail some of those rolls.

Its a great idea and I applaud anyone who attempts to go away from the current meta game (a few big units) but it definately needs some tweaks to make it worthwhile, its what I'm currently scribbling down at the moment so I have some more constructive criticism as an addition to my above comments

well Ive built this force around hordes as when he has big units he wont have any units to attack to make his hordes cost effective i do not plan on killing every one i plan to go round then so they have to turn and every time they turn the cant charge the one thing that i will need, to get rid of squads, is to make them panic (as the star-fire arrow helps with a lot) i plan to keep going round them finding gaps in their formation to run throw the musician is there for regroups for when i deny them the charge which if he dose charge one of my units that will open the gapes for me to run wild around their armies i do think this is effective and the 4 squads of foot archers is just there if the enemy advances too far then they can use their strength 3/4 bows

You've built this around hordes, but you haven't taken Dwellers. Also, you have no eagles or waywatchers. They are both pretty close to mandatory.

I would recommend a level 4 on life, BSB with HoD and Asyendi's Bane, 80-odd GG, one of which is a 20 man unit with the flaming banner.(Which I will come onto in a bit) and the rest are in 10s. Then 2 eagles, and 2 units of 7-8 waywatchers. The rest can be filled with warhawks and glade riders for chaff purposes.

In case you are asking why waywatchers and eagles are so important, they allow you to do two things. 1- Waywatchers have KB at short range, which allows them to deal with archers. 2- Waywatchers are a better BS than Glade guard, so it is easier for them to hit. 3- Eagles can charge block.

The third one is very helpful as it allows you to dictate the terms of combat. I.E. Keep your points out whilst you force your opponent to waste a turn reforming. Which in turn allows for another round of shooting at them. Warhawks and glade riders can do this too, but eagles do it cheaper.

As for the flaming banner. Certain armies, like skaven and dark elves have regen monsters. Now, when that happens, your flaming banner unit will fire at it. Maybe inflict a wound. But they will take off the regen for the rest of the phase.

Another thing that you could do, is take an MSU army, with lore of beasts. This is a double flee list. Park GG in front of dryads, and flee through them which causes your opponents to hit the dryads, which can stand up in combat. And Beasts has Wildform, which makes dryads, treekin and whatnot even tougher.

The army won't win. You have no tree spirits so that makes the army comnpletely unplayable. You need atleast 9 treekin at 2000 points. Woodelves win all their games based on the amount of elves they don't have. Glade Guard are good but i wouldnt take more than 30. Dryads Treekin and Treemen are the way to go with a lvl 4 lore of life. Maybe a few warhawk riders if you want to war machine hunt or tie up something important while you get treekin in the way.

Tookyflakes wrote:
The army won't win. You have no tree spirits so that makes the army comnpletely unplayable. You need atleast 9 treekin at 2000 points. Woodelves win all their games based on the amount of elves they don't have. Glade Guard are good but i wouldnt take more than 30. Dryads Treekin and Treemen are the way to go with a lvl 4 lore of life. Maybe a few warhawk riders if you want to war machine hunt or tie up something important while you get treekin in the way.

Erm...Not true at all. It is possible to get a competitive army without treekin, and minimal dryads.

thedarkavenger wrote:

Tookyflakes wrote:
The army won't win. You have no tree spirits so that makes the army comnpletely unplayable. You need atleast 9 treekin at 2000 points. Woodelves win all their games based on the amount of elves they don't have. Glade Guard are good but i wouldnt take more than 30. Dryads Treekin and Treemen are the way to go with a lvl 4 lore of life. Maybe a few warhawk riders if you want to war machine hunt or tie up something important while you get treekin in the way.

Erm...Not true at all. It is possible to get a competitive army without treekin, and minimal dryads.

It's not really, send me a good example.

 cheapbuster wrote:

thedarkavenger wrote:

Tookyflakes wrote:
The army won't win. You have no tree spirits so that makes the army comnpletely unplayable. You need atleast 9 treekin at 2000 points. Woodelves win all their games based on the amount of elves they don't have. Glade Guard are good but i wouldnt take more than 30. Dryads Treekin and Treemen are the way to go with a lvl 4 lore of life. Maybe a few warhawk riders if you want to war machine hunt or tie up something important while you get treekin in the way.

Erm...Not true at all. It is possible to get a competitive army without treekin, and minimal dryads.

It's not really, send me a good example.

I am running an all elf army; Highborn plus harp, Spellweaver, BSB, 36 Eternal Guard, 2x16 Glade Guard, 12 wardancers, 2x5 waywatchers. Not lost to our local skaven player even with a bell in the list, narrow loss to chaos and dark elves (due to my own tactical errors). I am taking my list to ToS and look forward to people underestimating my army. It is very playable and while not the most competitive list you will see on the net can very much hold its own.

Used to play the Treekin + lifeweaever list but got boring and Treekin can easily be countered.

Onto the original post, the army does lack ways in which to earn you victory points, you can only really reliable clear up chaff while you struggle to make a dent in bigger units.

 WombleJim wrote:

 cheapbuster wrote:

thedarkavenger wrote:

Tookyflakes wrote:
The army won't win. You have no tree spirits so that makes the army comnpletely unplayable. You need atleast 9 treekin at 2000 points. Woodelves win all their games based on the amount of elves they don't have. Glade Guard are good but i wouldnt take more than 30. Dryads Treekin and Treemen are the way to go with a lvl 4 lore of life. Maybe a few warhawk riders if you want to war machine hunt or tie up something important while you get treekin in the way.

Erm...Not true at all. It is possible to get a competitive army without treekin, and minimal dryads.

It's not really, send me a good example.

I am running an all elf army; Highborn plus harp, Spellweaver, BSB, 36 Eternal Guard, 2x16 Glade Guard, 12 wardancers, 2x5 waywatchers. Not lost to our local skaven player even with a bell in the list, narrow loss to chaos and dark elves (due to my own tactical errors). I am taking my list to ToS and look forward to people underestimating my army. It is very playable and while not the most competitive list you will see on the net can very much hold its own.

Used to play the Treekin + lifeweaever list but got boring and Treekin can easily be countered.

Onto the original post, the army does lack ways in which to earn you victory points, you can only really reliable clear up chaff while you struggle to make a dent in bigger units.

I'm running an all elf army, and it's crap.

I'm running a mostly elf army and so far am 6-3-2 with is

Spellweaver – (295)
Level 4, Glamourweave, The Horn of the Asrai

Noble – (200)
Battle Standard Bearer, Great Eagle, Asyendi’s Bane, Hail of Doom Arrow, Dragonhelm

Noble – (179)
Great Eagle, Light Armour, Shield, The Spear of Twilight, The Helm of the Hunt

20 Glade Guard (268)
Musician, Standard Bearer, Banner of Eternal Flame

10 Glade Guard (126)
Musician

10 Glade Guard (126)
Musician

10 Glade Guard (126)
Musician

8 Dryads (96)

3 Warhawk Riders (120)

3 Warhawk Riders (120)

5 Waywatchers – (120)

5 Waywatchers – (120)

Great Eagle – (50)

Great Eagle – (50)

I have a weakspot for Elves on Eagles and Hawks

 GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:
I'm running an all elf army, and it's crap.

Practice makes perfect

I like your List Carpe, If I had more time to convert some warhawk riders would love to fit them in my list

The only tree spirits I run in my army are 2 units of 8 dryads for double flee purposes.

OK right Ive seen two 2000pts army against the shop keeper he is extremely good at the store went against a Nealy as good player with a lode of tree kin and the way watchers and the wood elves player got smashed easily the next battle the shop keeper had was against one of the worst players in the store and he had no trees no special and no rare just good old horses and guardsmen and guess what the shop keeper was tabled by turn 3 and there was no combat what so ever so i know that my list will work and i borrowed my friends high elves (built simlar (as in it was easy to proxy) army) against a chaos army turn 1 i made his 40 chaos squad go to 29 and run of the table and that was his main squad where a level 4 wizard was in it but we didn't manage to Finnish it but he only killed 8 of my models ad that was due to spells


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o and also id never take wizards in a wood elves army because they tend to be crap and a few people at my local games workshop agree including the manager

Life magic is brilliant in WE as dwellers provides a method of dealing with hordes. Beasts also does that, albeit less effectively with curse.

+1 to you not needing to max out on Forest Spirits to do well with Wood Elves, the only ones I run most of the time are 2x8 Dryads.

I also really do not rate Treekin in the current metagame. They lose to everyone else's monstrous toys, and everything that other armies take to kill the really nasty monstrous stuff (Demis, MFang) also ruins Treekin.

They're really, really good at killing WS3 T3 infantry. However, that's basically a pointless niche in Fantasy at the moment as the game doesn't revolve around masses of poor combat units- and for the times you do run into these WS3 T3 infantry, you have Dryads.

thedarkavenger wrote:
The only tree spirits I run in my army are 2 units of 8 dryads for double flee purposes.

You mean your Skaven, Empire and Dark Elf counts-as army?

sorcerorofkhorne wrote:
OK right Ive seen two 2000pts army against the shop keeper he is extremely good at the store went against a Nealy as good player with a lode of tree kin and the way watchers and the wood elves player got smashed easily the next battle the shop keeper had was against one of the worst players in the store and he had no trees no special and no rare just good old horses and guardsmen and guess what the shop keeper was tabled by turn 3 and there was no combat what so ever so i know that my list will work and i borrowed my friends high elves (built simlar (as in it was easy to proxy) army) against a chaos army turn 1 i made his 40 chaos squad go to 29 and run of the table and that was his main squad where a level 4 wizard was in it but we didn't manage to Finnish it but he only killed 8 of my models ad that was due to spells


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o and also id never take wizards in a wood elves army because they tend to be crap and a few people at my local games workshop agree including the manager

What GW do you attend out of interest?

 GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

thedarkavenger wrote:
The only tree spirits I run in my army are 2 units of 8 dryads for double flee purposes.

You mean your Skaven, Empire and Dark Elf counts-as army?

I don't have any of those armies.

Sutton cold-field and Birmingham city center i live in the middle so i go to both but they manager was at the Sutton one