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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:31:36
Subject: Running total for election
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Calculating Commissar
pontiac, michigan; usa
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Ok fine, fine, fine! The popular vote isn't fully counted yet and i didn't check but i won't stay up all night for it. I find it odd how electoral votes work. 49/51 split and it all goes to the dude with 51%. It's just dumb. Yes i'm whining! Shut up! I'm tired!
I have work tomorrow and yes i get to be a crab *ss about it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:32:58
Subject: Running total for election
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Well, now all that's left is to hear pundits drone about how everything the winner did was genius and how everything the loser did was the stupidest thing ever.
Fafnir wrote:No, he didn't. At least, you can't really say for certain. Not all the votes have been counted yet. For example, less than a third of the votes in California have been counted yet. Once everything's been counted, you could be looking at some very different numbers.
And with California going about 60-40 to Obama, and less than a third counted as you said, it'd be really weird if it didn't put him over the top in the popular vote.
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Easy E wrote:Also, all those who were convinced that the 538 blog was fixed.... well.... I think you can eat your hat now. He nailed it...again.
Yep.
Maybe now people will learn the difference between people who are trying to predict something accurately, as opposed to people who are trying to find ways to claim their guy isn't a heavy underdog.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:34:46
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Hallowed Canoness
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Well, at least the President can appreciate the Divine, God-Emperor given glory that is Guinness.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:35:59
Subject: Running total for election
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Battlefield Tourist
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So, the big question now is.... what will be the Republican Parties response to this defeat?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:36:12
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:37:30
Subject: Running total for election
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Fixture of Dakka
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Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but it looks like we're getting a 51st State.
Time to buy new flags!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:39:57
Subject: Running total for election
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Easy E wrote:So, the big question now is.... what will be the Republican Parties response to this defeat?
Well... they primaried back-to-back moderates...
Next time they'll go hog-wide and go for a strong conservative (Santorum... BARF!).
Which is a mistake...
Any moderate Republican can beat a generic Democrat. But, they ran into Obama... Automatically Appended Next Post: Cyporiean wrote:Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but it looks like we're getting a 51st State.
Time to buy new flags!
??? er... what? What I miss?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:41:21
Subject: Running total for election
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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They need this guy to run
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:42:32
Subject: Running total for election
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Easy E wrote:So, the big question now is.... what will be the Republican Parties response to this defeat?
There will be a fight tomorrow for the leadership position within the party.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:44:43
Subject: Running total for election
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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whembly wrote: Easy E wrote:So, the big question now is.... what will be the Republican Parties response to this defeat?
Well... they primaried back-to-back moderates...
Next time they'll go hog-wide and go for a strong conservative (Santorum... BARF!).
Which is a mistake...
Any moderate Republican can beat a generic Democrat. But, they ran into Obama...
A moderate Republican could have easily beat Obama. A moderate Republican that has to become a severe conservative and then try to return to being a moderate couldn't. It's as much a fault of the primary process and the grip the Tea Party has on the GOP as anything else.
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Cyporiean wrote:Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but it looks like we're getting a 51st State.
Time to buy new flags!
??? er... what? What I miss?
Puerto Rico wants to be a state.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:46:45
Subject: Running total for election
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Calculating Commissar
pontiac, michigan; usa
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Dude screw that you know who they need? Gandalf. I'd vote republican if gandalf was at the helm or maybe aragorn. At least i'd go into the very fires of mordor if he was my king....er....president.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:47:01
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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FOX News is like The Human Centipede with the middle person dead at this moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:47:06
Subject: Running total for election
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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d-usa wrote: whembly wrote: Easy E wrote:So, the big question now is.... what will be the Republican Parties response to this defeat?
Well... they primaried back-to-back moderates...
Next time they'll go hog-wide and go for a strong conservative (Santorum... BARF!).
Which is a mistake...
Any moderate Republican can beat a generic Democrat. But, they ran into Obama...
A moderate Republican could have easily beat Obama. A moderate Republican that has to become a severe conservative and then try to return to being a moderate couldn't. It's as much a fault of the primary process and the grip the Tea Party has on the GOP as anything else.
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Cyporiean wrote:Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but it looks like we're getting a 51st State.
Time to buy new flags!
??? er... what? What I miss?
Puerto Rico wants to be a state.
w00t! YEAH!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:51:33
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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And in the really big news, Bachman is narrowly trailing her Democratic opponent in her house seat. Man that'd be fantastic if she got booted. Be a real sign that people might not be crazy for everything the Democrats offer, but they sure are sick of the really crazy end of the Republican party.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:55:10
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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sebster wrote:And in the really big news, Bachman is narrowly trailing her Democratic opponent in her house seat. Man that'd be fantastic if she got booted. Be a real sign that people might not be crazy for everything the Democrats offer, but they sure are sick of the really crazy end of the Republican party.
This is one of the few races I had my eye on. I really hope she gets booted.
Can't stand her. Liar, clueless, hypocrite, and ehhhhh you get it.
I don't like her.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:59:23
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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sebster wrote:And in the really big news, Bachman is narrowly trailing her Democratic opponent in her house seat. Man that'd be fantastic if she got booted. Be a real sign that people might not be crazy for everything the Democrats offer, but they sure are sick of the really crazy end of the Republican party.
My hope is that the GOP realizes that the Tea Party is a cancer that needs to be booted. Considering how diverse the Democratic Party is I could even see the GOP split into two parties. They could let the Tea Party become their own party and have the GOP proper move towards moderation while picking up blue dog democrats and moderates.
My fear is that the GOP will "realize" that they didn't win because Romney was not conservative enough, and that they need to double down on being more conservative.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:59:44
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 05:59:48
Subject: Running total for election
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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whembly wrote:Well... they primaried back-to-back moderates...
Next time they'll go hog-wide and go for a strong conservative (Santorum... BARF!).
Which is a mistake...
Any moderate Republican can beat a generic Democrat. But, they ran into Obama...
Well, 2008 is the post Bush, post GFC election. McCain was a strong candidate, but there was no way any Republican was winning that thing.
This election is definitely one the Republicans let slip, and part of that comes down to Romney being a fairly average campaigner. And sure, a lot of it comes down to Obama being pretty strong, but a lot also goes to the campaign infrastructure, and a lot of that is going to last after Obama is done.
Both parties can now focus potential voters down to their core issues, and make sure that voter receives campaign information that is essential for them. Both parties have it, but Democrats reportedly do it better right now, and given that the Democrat base is larger but less likely to vote unless given a good reason, it matters a lot more for them.
As for who the Republicans will run next time? Well it depends who does well in the Primary - this election was ear marked for Rick Perry, but that didn't work out for obvious reasons Automatically Appended Next Post: d-usa wrote:A moderate Republican could have easily beat Obama. A moderate Republican that has to become a severe conservative and then try to return to being a moderate couldn't. It's as much a fault of the primary process and the grip the Tea Party has on the GOP as anything else.
Meh, Kerry was called a flip flopper in 2004 because he did the same - move out left for the primary then move back to the centre in race itself. And then Obama was far more to the left during the 2008 primary, but that wasn't as noticeable because McCain did the same in the Republican primary.
Basically the challenger will always have a problem with having this. Automatically Appended Next Post: Piston Honda wrote:This is one of the few races I had my eye on. I really hope she gets booted.
Can't stand her. Liar, clueless, hypocrite, and ehhhhh you get it.
I don't like her.
Yep. Though now she's up by about 350 votes, so that sucks.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:04:51
Subject: Running total for election
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Hallowed Canoness
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Just to get things started for 2016
Chaos we can count on
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:06:14
Subject: Running total for election
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hey now. That is crazy future talk and we should focus on the things we can control right now and that are important.
The 2014 midterm elections
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:07:39
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Portland, OR by way of WI
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a blowout
when the real states started coming in it was already clear
Obummer again
better than that Rom guy Automatically Appended Next Post:
there was a story today on NPR about, "The real winners of the 2012 election, The Clintons."
SHe will run in 2016, and win
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:13:18
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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d-usa wrote:My hope is that the GOP realizes that the Tea Party is a cancer that needs to be booted. Considering how diverse the Democratic Party is I could even see the GOP split into two parties. They could let the Tea Party become their own party and have the GOP proper move towards moderation while picking up blue dog democrats and moderates.
My fear is that the GOP will "realize" that they didn't win because Romney was not conservative enough, and that they need to double down on being more conservative.
Yeah, though given 'not conservative enough' was their answer in 2008, I can't see that working as the reason again. Probably the most likely result at this point is they'll decide Obama is an exceptional candidate, and all they have to do is wait four years to be rid of him. It's a safe answer, doesn't require a radical rethink of party strategy, and is at least somewhat true.
My hope is that they'll realise they've maxxed out their vote with white christian voters, and that only gives them 49% of the vote. Hoping the Democratic base doesn't show up in big numbers is basically the only way they win, and with demographics being as they are that situation is only going to get worse for Republicans. That means simply doubling down on the narrow base and hoping to get even more turnout from them is a losing strategy. Instead the party really needs to rebrand itself to appeal to a broader base, and that means the race to be the most extreme has to stop. Automatically Appended Next Post: DIDM wrote:there was a story today on NPR about, "The real winners of the 2012 election, The Clintons."
SHe will run in 2016, and win
She'll be what, late 60s, maybe even 70? Pushing it.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:40:57
Subject: Running total for election
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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General Mattis is the man.
I can't tell you how much I'd love for him to run for president.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 06:41:01
Subject: Re:Running total for election
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Crazed Bloodkine
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70 or 71 I think.
Its not entirely unprecedented, Golda Meir was 71 when she took office in Israel.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 07:17:25
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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DIDM wrote:a blowout
when the real states started coming in it was already clear
Obummer again
better than that Rom guy
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there was a story today on NPR about, "The real winners of the 2012 election, The Clintons."
SHe will run in 2016, and win
She'll be 73. I doubt she would want to run for it. I would prefer a Native American President.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 07:50:17
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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rockerbikie wrote:She'll be 73. I doubt she would want to run for it. I would prefer a Native American President.
Oh, stupid me, I was counting from 2012, not 2016. Yeah, that'd be really pushing it.
No wonder she was so pissed when she missed the gig in 2008, and played for Secretary of State instead of the VP spot - she knew 2008 was her one shot at the big chair.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 07:54:01
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Posts with Authority
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When was the last non native american president? I thought that was part of the requirement list.
Or was that an anti Obama dig?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 08:01:15
Subject: Running total for election
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Fixture of Dakka
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Bromsy wrote:When was the last non native american president? I thought that was part of the requirement list.
Or was that an anti Obama dig?
I think he means native aboriginal, like this guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 08:02:50
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Posts with Authority
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Oh. Why would that do anything good?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 08:03:56
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AustonT wrote: Lordhat wrote: AustonT wrote: don't worry recounts and lawsuits are inevitable.
Don't worry after the revolution we'll institute a parliamentary limited monarchy.
Like hell we will. lol
As King, I'm afraid I can't recognize your opinion.
Well, I didn't vote for you.
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