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remember that drop pods are open-topped and therefore assault vehicles, this has saved my life many times.

I was reading a post and read this. Is this true, for some reason I thought the rules stated that you could not assault out of the drop pod.

Primestick wrote:

remember that drop pods are open-topped and therefore assault vehicles, this has saved my life many times.

I was reading a post and read this. Is this true, for some reason I thought the rules stated that you could not assault out of the drop pod.

Normally there would be two restrictions on drop pods.
You cannot assault out of reserve.
You cannot assault after disembarking.

Being open-topped removes the 2nd restriction but not the first.

From the rulebook FAQ:

Q: Do Transports with the Assault Vehicle special rule permit their passengers to charge on the turn they arrive from Reserve? (p33)
A: No.

That's what I thought. I cant pull up GW site here at work so I figured I would ask.

Not to mention the drop pod rules themselves mention that you can't assault from them IIRC. Because in 5th there were no restrictions on assaulting from reserves, or moving assault/open topped vehicles, etc.

IamCaboose wrote:
Not to mention the drop pod rules themselves mention that you can't assault from them IIRC. Because in 5th there were no restrictions on assaulting from reserves, or moving assault/open topped vehicles, etc.

However there was a restriction to assaulting after deep striking, and units that arrived via a vehicle that deep struck counted as deep striking.

So wait even a chaos dreadclaw wouldn't allow assaulting? It came out in aeronautica after 6th and still has the assault special rule

lexx108 wrote:
So wait even a chaos dreadclaw wouldn't allow assaulting? It came out in aeronautica after 6th and still has the assault special rule

If it comes from reserves it cannot assault as per 6th.

To date I can only think of 3 things that can assault following reserve:
Zagstruck, Vanguards and Ymgarls.

This whole thing seems messy to me. Either stuff with specific rules can assault from reserve, or nothing can. GW are effectively contradicting themselves in their FAQ ruling about assault vehicles, since that includes the Lucius pod, which specifically states that a disembarking dreadnought can assault.

 Johnno wrote:
This whole thing seems messy to me. Either stuff with specific rules can assault from reserve, or nothing can. GW are effectively contradicting themselves in their FAQ ruling about assault vehicles, since that includes the Lucius pod, which specifically states that a disembarking dreadnought can assault.

So the Lucias pod which has specific permission to allow a unit to assault out of it means that other vehicles that can DS should be allowed to? You have never been allowed to assault after DS unless you had specific permission to do so. This has not changed. The only thing that has changed is you cannot assault after arriving from reserves in general, as well as after DSing.

the Dreadclaw (i think, i've not seen the latest rules) is slightly different to a dro pod in that it comes in from reserve in, for example, turn 2, flies accross the table. in turn 3 it lands and they can charge out.

Happyjew wrote:

So the Lucias pod which has specific permission to allow a unit to assault out of it means that other vehicles that can DS should be allowed to? You have never been allowed to assault after DS unless you had specific permission to do so. This has not changed. The only thing that has changed is you cannot assault after arriving from reserves in general, as well as after DSing.

Not what I was getting at, but you do have a point. I guess I was a bit too anxious over the fact that the rule seemed to sweepingly disallow the pod, which in hindsight just depends on how you read the rule. Reading the rule as just disallowing getting around the not assaulting from reserve by claiming the assault vehicle rule, makes more sense now.

Thanks for putting my mind at ease Happyjew.

 Praxiss wrote:
the Dreadclaw (i think, i've not seen the latest rules) is slightly different to a dro pod in that it comes in from reserve in, for example, turn 2, flies accross the table. in turn 3 it lands and they can charge out.

Nope, those are the old, slightly better rules. now it HAS to DS, with no IG system, and then you can immediately disembark OR you can wait inside and go around as a flyer. For even MORE points than it used to cost.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Praxiss wrote:
the Dreadclaw (i think, i've not seen the latest rules) is slightly different to a dro pod in that it comes in from reserve in, for example, turn 2, flies accross the table. in turn 3 it lands and they can charge out.

Nope, those are the old, slightly better rules. now it HAS to DS, with no IG system, and then you can immediately disembark OR you can wait inside and go around as a flyer. For even MORE points than it used to cost.

Actually, since the Dreadclaw is now a flyer the troops inside can't disembark on the turn by arrive. Page 6 of he rulebook FAQ.

Q: If a Flyer arrives via Deep Strike, can embarked passengers disembark from it on the same turn it arrives? (p80-)
A: No.

Gah, even worse - id forgotten that ruling!

Damn this thing is rubbish....love the model though