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AP Yi is pretty powerful in ARAM. Because you can't 'b' most people will start stacking sustain over tank. AP Yi will just alpha into the team around midgame (assuming he's been properly fed) and autokilling the squishies who also happen to be the pokers in most cases. He'll then die 50% of the time and get to B and use the money he just got to get stronger. He'll fall off in late game but, most LoL games are over by the end of mid-game whether your team is smart enough to realize they've lost or not.
Snowball champs in general can do well in ARAM. AP Yi, Katarina, Diana, and LeBlanc need team support though to get fed and start rolling. Once they've snowballed its really had to stop them in such a small map.
EDIT: Oh, and while talking about who gets awesome in ARAM, who do you guys think gets screwed?
My vote: Nasus cause he can't stack his Q. He's delegated pretty much to a tank and not a particularly good one outside of his awesome slow. If the ratio on his AoE was higher I think he'd be better in ARAM.
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Ye, that's the main prob. He can constantly deal damage to the enemy team (a lot of dmg actually) while having high amounts of sustain.
Nidalee is still worse though. No wards to dodge spears, forced in a rather narrow corridor, no healing at base and bonus mana reg allow nid to spam her Q and deal insane amounts of damage. Nidallee fully breaks ARAM at the moment and is max unfun.
I don't think ARAM is at all intended to be balanced (especially with what I call the 'Random Fairy' who will screw your team by pure chance by giving you a crappy comp). ARAM is something you only do for laughs to see how insanely out of hand team fights get.
I got Sona once and unsurprisingly we did really well on ARAM. It does make you shudder over some past champion purchases though and the free list ... poppy was not a good pick.
"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson
ruminator wrote: I got Sona once and unsurprisingly we did really well on ARAM. It does make you shudder over some past champion purchases though and the free list ... poppy was not a good pick.
Poppy is actually not that bad because there's always a wall a short distance away. Her ultimate is the best diving ability ever, setting up perfect team fights.....so long as your team has the ability (and knowledge) to follow up when you plow into them.
ruminator wrote: I got Sona once and unsurprisingly we did really well on ARAM. It does make you shudder over some past champion purchases though and the free list ... poppy was not a good pick.
Poppy is actually not that bad because there's always a wall a short distance away. Her ultimate is the best diving ability ever, setting up perfect team fights.....so long as your team has the ability (and knowledge) to follow up when you plow into them.
Never works like that though - unlike in normal games when you can come at the enemy from the side/bushes, ARAM has you often heading for them straight on - so very difficult to charge them into a wall. You get killed trying to get into a position to charge or you charge straight on and with no wall to hit the damage you do is ... disappointing. Then you die. Only a real dumb player stands next to the bushes when they know there's charging champions in there. Ulti wise - they just run away ... if they're faster than you and/or have flash you're in trouble.
"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson
ruminator wrote: Never works like that though - unlike in normal games when you can come at the enemy from the side/bushes, ARAM has you often heading for them straight on - so very difficult to charge them into a wall. You get killed trying to get into a position to charge or you charge straight on and with no wall to hit the damage you do is ... disappointing. Then you die. Only a real dumb player stands next to the bushes when they know there's charging champions in there. Ulti wise - they just run away ... if they're faster than you and/or have flash you're in trouble.
And this is where I disagree, patience is the virture with playing Poppy in ARAM. Thankfully, she's tanky as heck so she can take a few hits while trying to position but eventually they will get out of position and you will beat someone's face in. If they're really careful, then all you have to do is pop your ult, charge in and hope your team follows. No need for stuns there, you just 5 man taunted into their team with you being pretty much invincible.
Yeah. The only heroes who fall short in ARAM are single-target heroes. Nasus e.g. is a lot weaker than he is in normal due to his Q doing nothing, his main source of damage is his ult.
Sigvatr wrote: Yeah. The only heroes who fall short in ARAM are single-target heroes. Nasus e.g. is a lot weaker than he is in normal due to his Q doing nothing, his main source of damage is his ult.
I dunno AP nasus with that AOE gets nasty on that map. its not amazing amount of damage but it has a decent cast range.
his Slow though is brutal for anyone out of position.
the champs i always have a relatively hard time with on aram are assassins like akali, kass. you are pretty much always in the open so no surprise ganks at all. though team fights anything and everything happens.
Assassins are special in ARAM, you really have to be patient with them. If you're too aggressive, you will get blown up before you accomplish anything. You actually have to wait for them to commit on the dive so you can jump on their carries and destroy them before they can turn around and stop you. Akali does this well because she can jump around. My favorite has to be Fizz though, his ult is likely to hit multiple people and his playful/trickster just really frustrates them when you do dive in.
Katarina is one assassin that does well in ARAM. She's got the chaining knife attack for the early game, and once she hits level 6 she's great in team fights. Throw knife, teleport, spin and ult, then repeat the process on any survivors.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis
AlexHolker wrote: Katarina is one assassin that does well in ARAM. She's got the chaining knife attack for the early game, and once she hits level 6 she's great in team fights. Throw knife, teleport, spin and ult, then repeat the process on any survivors.
Which is why I always try to hold my CC until Katarina decides to ult. It's an absolutely killer ability in team fights.
Decided league points are dumb and I'm not taking it seriously anymore. 10 pts for a win and 24 for a loss seems to be about standard this week, means that I win 2 out of 3 and my points goes down. To get promoted now I think I need to be winning 6/7 games ie 85%. Game wants me left in my league for a reason it seems.
"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson
Just remove Nidalee from ARAM. Seriously. Nidalee is an autowin for the team that gets her and that's just broken beyond hell. You barely got space to dodge her spears, you cannot heal at the fountain and she got unlimited mana. Stupidly OP: Remove her from ARAM. Now.
The same can be said for Yi, Jayce, Ezreal, Sona, Heimerdinger, Ziggs and a few others that escape me right now. My win% with those champs is ridiculously high on ARAM. However, no champ is an "autowin". They can be countered and beaten and are incapable of carrying a bad team by themselves. It's unfortunate that majority of the players in ARAM have no idea that this is possible and just resign to their fate of losing to them.
Sigvatr wrote: Just remove Nidalee from ARAM. Seriously. Nidalee is an autowin for the team that gets her and that's just broken beyond hell. You barely got space to dodge her spears, you cannot heal at the fountain and she got unlimited mana. Stupidly OP: Remove her from ARAM. Now.
MR. is your friend get it early so she doesn't completely snow ball. (same with yi and stuff) also dodge it isnt really that hard.
its funny because i had a nid last week on my team and she couldn't do squat as the enemy built mr really fast. but the heals are nice.
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The biggest issue people seem to have with Nid is learning to dodge sideways from her spear, rather than trying to outrun it (which only increases its damage!).
There are plenty of powerful ARAM champs and absolutely none of them should be taken out.
streamdragon wrote: The biggest issue people seem to have with Nid is learning to dodge sideways from her spear, rather than trying to outrun it (which only increases its damage!).
Man that reminded me of that movie promethius where the two ladies are running with the rolling space ship instead of 90 degrees out of the way.
Veiger is cool. how can you hate him insta gibbing one person then waddling away for like 4min? (cant remember ulti cooldown)
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