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2012/11/13 02:17:38
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
I am much more partial to Oregon myself At least there we have all of the major types of terrain: desert, beach, forest, rain forest, mountain, city. And each one is, depending on where you live only a couple hours at most away.
2012/11/13 02:23:04
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
As far as quality of life for the people living in the country, that's debatable. I'm on buissness right now in Canada, and they seem to have a fine quality of life here.
2012/11/13 02:54:02
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
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2012/11/13 02:57:19
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
There ain't a greatest nation on Earth. America is pretty good though. We've got a lot of cool rights, and a republic, and those kinda stuff. Some countries don't have 1st amendment type laws, so that sucks. I like being able to talk loudly.
I'm not very patriotic, unlike how a lot of other Americans are. It's not like its the only free nation or only 1st world nation on Earth. That being said, I'm still patriotic-ish. I root for America and I don't break the law, and that kinda stuff.
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2012/11/13 03:14:45
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
Are some people here trying to say there are countries other than America? because I highly doubt that....because America is the only country that automatically makes us the greatest!
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2012/11/13 03:27:38
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
^ That's not about slavery, that's about the increase of federal power, which has led America into the dreary state of affair in which it finds itself today.
Ratbarf wrote: I would say it was, and then Lincoln ruined it.
^ That's not about slavery, that's about the increase of federal power, which has led America into the dreary state of affair in which it finds itself today.
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er...what?
Please elaborate on this "dreary state of affair"...
I think I would beg to differ.
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2012/11/13 03:55:41
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
ENOZONE wrote: What do you think? Why or why not? If not, which is and why? What defines greatness?
Someone's been watching "Thank You For Smoking" lol
Please explain, I haven't seen the movie in over 5 years so I don't really know what you're talking about.
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ENOZONE wrote: That's pretty nihilistic. Have you been everywhere in the globe? I haven't, but I enjoy quite a few locations and cultures - some within the US. Why does everywhere you've been suck?
Nope I haven't and don't want to and Many reasons. But it's not that everywhere sucks just that nowhere is the greatest.
Share with us your reasons. It's a fairly strong statement to say that nowhere on the planet is there a place of non-suckyness but not supporting the claim by saying, "Well, I haven't been everywhere, but have reasons why everywhere sucks."
And I fully support this claim. Just imagine if we diversified further..... but wait, that's a different website....
Just go to 4chan.
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And to clear things up, this question wasn't meant to be rhetorical - it's meant to tickle the brain.
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ENOZONE wrote: That's pretty nihilistic. Have you been everywhere in the globe? I haven't, but I enjoy quite a few locations and cultures - some within the US. Why does everywhere you've been suck?
Nope I haven't and don't want to and many reasons. But it's not that everywhere sucks just that nowhere is the greatest.
Share with us your reasons. It's a fairly strong statement to say that nowhere on the planet is there a place of non-suckyness but not supporting the claim by saying, "Well, I haven't been everywhere, but have reasons why everywhere sucks."
I may not have made this clear but twas in response to your original question of why everywhere I'd been had sucked.
The last place I lived had a surprisingly high crime rate, (I myself was mugged three times in the space of a year,) low employment rates, most of the town centre has been replaced with new shops or nothing because the entire town is dying and it's completely covered in graffiti. So yup they really suck. And everyone seems to be on or have been on drugs at some point (though that may have just been my circle of friends).
It's not awful, but it's far from great. Therefore it does suck.
2012/11/13 04:31:02
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
The land is what does it for me. There are so many natural wonders concentrated in this country. Anyone who has visited any of the national parks can attest to the stunning beauty of the landscape. Grand Canyon National Park, Redwood National Park, Sequoia NP, Arches NP, The Great Sand Dunes NP, Crater Lake NP, The Everglades, Yosemite, Yellowstone, the Ne Pali Coast, Mount McKinley, Mt. St. Helens, the Rockies, the Appalachians, Glacier NP, the list goes on and on.
Now, I realize that a country is not the land it lays claim to, and all these natural wonders (and maybe more) would exist whether the US itself existed or not, and that there are other, equally magnificent works of nature elsewhere in the world. However, this does not preclude being proud of the variety, scale, and beauty of the natural landscape and wildlife that exists within our boundaries.
2012/11/13 04:34:38
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
I'm curious as to what reasoning you come to that America is the greatest nation on earth beyond the YEEHAW 'MERICA! brainwashing that seems fairly common.
Yeah any one of these list could be criticised and picked apart but I think it gets the message through.
I'd say the only reason America can even claim to be the greastest is because you have the most guns, a willingness to use them and no one is stupid enough to challenge the point.
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2012/11/13 04:38:08
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
Madcat87 wrote: I'm curious as to what reasoning you come to that America is the greatest nation on earth beyond the YEEHAW 'MERICA! brainwashing that seems fairly common.
Yeah any one of these list could be criticised and picked apart but I think it gets the message through.
You do what we say about statistics dontcha?
I'd say the only reason America can even claim to be the greastest is because you have the most guns, a willingness to use them and no one is stupid enough to challenge the point.
Yeah... pretty much this.
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2012/11/13 05:04:32
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
I'd say the only reason America can even claim to be the greastest is because you have the most guns, a willingness to use them and no one is stupid enough to challenge the point.
Yeah... pretty much this.
We may squabble with one another... but, woe to any outsider trying to butt in!
You think squabbling with guns is a point of pride?
If that's the criteria for greatest nation on earth than I guess Afghanistan is a lot greater than America. They have been in a state of social unrest since the 1980's. Kabul must be the widow capital of the world, given how many dead husbands there are. And woe to any outsider butting in? America has nothing on Afghanistan. Afghanistan has hundreds of years of history resisting occupation. They call Afghanistan the Graveyard of Empires.
Somalia, Pakistan, Pakistan's tribal areas and more are squabbling with one another with guns and bombs and 'woe to any outsider trying to butt in.'
And if you think having a lot of guns is such a cool thing, know that there are about 30 thousand suicides in USA and the largest percentage (I think it's half) of those are by firearms. Forget murder and shooting in self-defense, most people killed by guns in America are unhappy people killing themselves. And suicide becomes a lot easier when the methods a your disposal are lethal. Women try to kill themselves a lot more than men, but men use deadlier methods, like hanging and shooting. In fact, most suicide attempts fail. I wonder how much lower the American suicide rate would be if they didn't "have the most guns" and "willingness to use them."
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2012/11/13 05:08:57
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
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2012/11/13 05:11:42
Subject: Re:Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
I'd say the only reason America can even claim to be the greastest is because you have the most guns, a willingness to use them and no one is stupid enough to challenge the point.
Yeah... pretty much this.
We may squabble with one another... but, woe to any outsider trying to butt in!
You think squabbling with guns is a point of pride?
Who says we're squabbling with guns?
If that's the criteria for greatest nation on earth than I guess Afghanistan is a lot greater than America.
lolwut?
They have been in a state of social unrest since the 1980's. Kabul must be the widow capital of the world, given how many dead husbands there are. And woe to any outsider butting in?
What does that have to do with the conversation on hand?
America has nothing on Afghanistan. Afghanistan has hundreds of years of history resisting occupation. They call Afghanistan the Graveyard of Empires.
Somalia, Pakistan, Pakistan's tribal areas and more are squabbling with one another with guns and bombs and 'woe to any outsider trying to butt in.'
Wait... are you saying we're "squabbling" amongs each other with guns and bombs, ala Pakistan/Afghanistan? Whatever you're smoking dude... PASS.IT.TO.ME!
And if you think having a lot of guns is such a cool thing, know that there are about 30 thousand suicides in USA and the largest percentage (I think it's half) of those are by firearms.
Uh... if someone wants to kill him/herself... they'd find something else if gunz weren't handy.
Forget murder and shooting in self-defense, most people killed by guns in America are unhappy people killing themselves.
um... what? seriously, what blend are you smoking? The Big Bud?
And suicide becomes a lot easier when the methods a your disposal are lethal.
I'm sensing a theme here...
Women try to kill themselves a lot more than men, but men use deadlier methods, like hanging and shooting. In fact, most suicide attempts fail. I wonder how much lower the American suicide rate would be if they didn't "have the most guns" and "willingness to use them."
aha! A gun hater! There's the answer.
Let me first start off by saying that I truly believe there's no fething reason to opt yourself out. None.
However, if someone decides it, they're going to do it irregardless if guns were accessible.
And now that I'm riled up... yes, America is fething awesome. We just had one of the most closest, hotly contested election in recent years... and THERE'S NO CIVIL WAR! YEAH!
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2012/11/13 05:38:47
Subject: Why Is America the Greatest Nation on Earth?
I'm not saying America is bad, I'm just saying that guns don't make a country great. Suicide is often a quick, sometimes ill-thought reaction. So yes, the methods accessible do make a difference on whether someone who tries to kill themselves succeed. I am also not a gun hater, I am just aware of the effect their proliferation has on the suicide rate.
I'm not smoking anything. Proportionally, most gun deaths in America are suicides, not homicides. Shocking, isn't it?
Not really, it's the same in Switzerland, you're not going to bother setting up a noose or pull out a straight razor if there's a Sig Saur assault rifle (an ACTUAL assault rifle) with ammunition in the closet now are you?
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At least there we have all of the major types of terrain: desert, beach, forest, rain forest, mountain, city. And each one is, depending on where you live only a couple hours at most away.
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