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The Aegis Defense Line is a Fortification from the BRB.

On page 121 of the BRB, it states "Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it's also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone."

The Aegis Defense Line is a Fortification, but not a building.

Does that mean if I set up an Aegins Defense line inside my deployment zone that I cannot start the game with a unit inside it?

Not sure where the question is. You cannot be in the Aegis... just behind it.

I don't see this as an issue myself as no one has ever objected to being behind it at start anyway in my area.

I don't think this is an issue. You can just put your models behind the ADL.

Living Still wrote:
Not sure where the question is. You cannot be in the Aegis... just behind it.

Pretty much this

Aegis is not a fortification per se. It is "battlefield debris - Defense Line"

Living Still wrote:
Not sure where the question is. You cannot be in the Aegis... just behind it.

This sums it up.

We usually make is square shaped, rather than a line.

However, I see your points.

It would be like saying you can't deploy in a crater or behind a hill.

Since you can't be in an Aegis, because there isn't an inside to be inside, I don't see an issue here.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
It would be like saying you can't deploy in a crater or behind a hill.

Actually, it's nothing at all like that.

"Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it's also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone."

Hills are craters are not fortifications, but Defense Lines are, so that's a very poor analogy.

An Aegis is a Battlefield Debris (Defense Line) that you take as your Fortification FOC slot. It's not a building. You can make it a long line, in which case you're not deploying "in" anything. I get that.

But I like the rectangle shape. When I put a Devastator squad wholly within it's walls. that's a hell of a lot like "deploying withing one of my army's fortifications", is it not?

No, you're still deploying behind the line.

 kronk wrote:


But I like the rectangle shape. When I put a Devastator squad wholly within it's walls. that's a hell of a lot like "deploying withing one of my army's fortifications", is it not?

No, because deploying in a building means your unit isn't put on the table, instead it is being "transported" by the building.

The Infinite wrote:

 kronk wrote:


But I like the rectangle shape. When I put a Devastator squad wholly within it's walls. that's a hell of a lot like "deploying withing one of my army's fortifications", is it not?

No, because deploying in a building means your unit isn't put on the table, instead it is being "transported" by the building.

What does that have to do with my question? A defense line isn't a building.

Wait, are you saying you can deploy 'in' an ADL?

 JBW wrote:
Wait, are you saying you can deploy 'in' an ADL?

'In' meaning within the boundary of the walls, yes.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 JBW wrote:
Wait, are you saying you can deploy 'in' an ADL?

'In' meaning within the boundary of the walls, yes.

How does that work when someone draws a line with the ADL?
At what point are they not 'in' it anymore?

Being 'in' or not 'in' does not matter.

The Cover saves only matter if they are 25% or more obscured from at least one firing model, and if a unit wants to assault them and need to go across the ADL they need to roll for Difficult Terrain.

 DeathReaper wrote:
Being 'in' or not 'in' does not matter.

The Cover saves only matter if they are 25% or more obscured from at least one firing model, and if a unit wants to assault them and need to go across the ADL they need to roll for Difficult Terrain.

Ok, thank god. I thought we were losing you to the Dark Side. WTH is the OP talking about then?

He was thinking you can be 'within' the ADL by being inside the perimeter made by the fence. of course this is not the case.

Sorry, just read over again, saw the post about typical playstyle seen is making a box.

 DeathReaper wrote:
He was thinking you can be 'within' the ADL by being inside the perimeter made by the fence. of course this is not the case.

Yes, that's correct the same way it's difficult for you to be in a fence.

Tell me what page 121 of the BR is talking about with this statement:"Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it's also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone."


What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption?

 kronk wrote:
Tell me what page 121 of the BR is talking about with this statement:"Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it's also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone."


What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption?

I thought we were talking about deploying "in" not within.

Why are you making that distinction now?

Please read my initial post and give me your opinion. Also, please answer my previous post. "What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption? "

You'd only be within the ADL if it's closed off.

So to your original post, it depends on your construction of it.

 kronk wrote:
Why are you making that distinction now?

Please read my initial post and give me your opinion. Also, please answer my previous post. "What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption? "

The Skyshield doesn't have an inside. Is the bunker not a building?

rigeld2 wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Why are you making that distinction now?

Please read my initial post and give me your opinion. Also, please answer my previous post. "What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption? "

The Skyshield doesn't have an inside. Is the bunker not a building?

Correct Rig, the Skyshield doesn't have an inside.

The ADL does not either.

 kronk wrote:
Tell me what page 121 of the BR is talking about with this statement:"Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it's also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone."


What fortification can you not deploy within, then? The Skyshield Landing Pad? The Bunker on the Fortress of Redemption?

It is just telling you that you can deploy within a building, as you can not be within a Skyshield or an ADL.

It is just the brits trying to explain themselves.

You cannot be inside an ADL or a Skyshield.

Of course there isn't an "Inside" to be inside of in the first place so it doesn't matter.

The only "within" when we're talking about fortifications is embarking within fortifications which are also buildings. Currently just the Bastion and the Fortesss of Redemption.

They're not referring to being inside the perimeter of a squared-up Aegis, or on top of a Landing Pad.