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Thanks for the heads up antalas, found the non-silhouette version (second pic below)



Comments from the artist below it (he also did the Forge god and forge priest for KD)

last of the weird, sexualized creature designs from me..

thanks! unfortunately, i was dumped off this project a few months ago...but, i do have some more warped creature designs in my head...and also been on a giger kick as of late too. so just a matter of finding time for that..

ha thanks. truth be told, a lot of these designs were art directed to me and actually, the top creature was more or less already created. i worked from another artists sketch and aside from some tweaks here and there, they basically just wanted to have the creature done up in my style

Here also are more KD pics in the artist's game art gallery:

Loving the labial lion. It'll be hard to pick and choose what expansions I want, but that's what it's come down to. Sunstalker Ancient and Dragon King will definitely be in.

Interestingly, that image was filtered as "sexually explicit" on deviantart... I'm guessing it's the penile tail at the bottom left of the image, which I just finally noticed...

 Alpharius wrote:
To be fair though, Scipio is a bit of a Rain Cloud at times... but we still love him!

Merry Christmas all!

Actually, Adam was kind enough to send me a link with an unofficial pledge guide, so I can now see what's going on much more clearly.

 RiTides wrote:
Interestingly, that image was filtered as "sexually explicit" on deviantart... I'm guessing it's the penile tail at the bottom left of the image, which I just finally noticed...

That, or because the face is a giant vulva.

I would just like to say that I just got home from a night of heavy drinking, and even while drunk, those above pictures got me more excited than anything else tonight. This is one of the coolest projects ever!

 Fafnir wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Interestingly, that image was filtered as "sexually explicit" on deviantart... I'm guessing it's the penile tail at the bottom left of the image, which I just finally noticed...

That, or because the face is a giant vulva.

Honestly, I didn't see it at first. Though I also didn't notice that was the lion's face either. I thought the big swoopy thing was a horn coming out the side of a the creatures head. I'm guessing it's a tongue though? Whatever it is it looks a little silly IMO.

New Monster preview on BoLS(Phoenix and Watcher)- http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/12/kingdom-death-monster-preview-pt-2.html

I'm loving the goat creature art, I'd love to see that in Monster! Assuming "the King" is the final expansion through kickstarter, maybe it'll appear later on? The 900k creature, I like it, but I'm not sure I love it. Maybe that's an expansion to get later on seeing as a couple minor expansions without a discount dent the wallet much less than a couple major expansions without a discount! That and I'm already probably getting the Dung Beetle knight later on, so it would make sense. I'm already assuming I'll be bumping my pledge up another ~$50 for the final expansion, and we'll see if I break down and get the Sunstalker Dancer. I like it, I love the Rogue types, but I wish she was a bit more covered up! I can't imagine that just Sunstalker teeth on your nipples would be that comfortable.

So... Spider Silk pin-up at 950k and "the King" at a million? Sound about right?

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
So... Spider Silk pin-up at 950k and "the King" at a million? Sound about right?

That's what I thought but Adam mentioned that he has an upgrade for the Dragon King expansion planned so whether that slots in before or after $1 million remains to be seen.

He also mentioned that the $900k creature will cost the same as the Beetle knight so $25 at last the financial end is in sight I reckon $25 plus $15 for another pin up and $40-$50 for the King should just about see this done depending on what happens after $1 million that is.

One last thing he mentioned is that the Illuminated lady can't be done in plastic at this time the details are to fine but she may be revisited later when the larger monster that she is part of gets worked on - sounds like a big expansion for the future.

And I really hope that Goat type monster turns up the artwork looks great

Yeah, I'm officially creeped out by this monster! I agree that the goat above it is pretty darn awesome, though. And this one would be, too, with a little bit less inuendo! (For my taste, of course)

The goat looks quite neat, and I love everything about the lion apart from the "face". That just doesn't add anything to the miniature, in my opinion.

I'm actually glad that Kingdom Death is moving back to that unsettling, sexual horror. It's that distinctly and privately human, but very much warped appeal that makes KD's creatures so good at conveying a sense of discomfort.

GW tried to do it with Slaanesh, but missed that one by miles (and doesn't seem to have any intention of trying to find that mark again).

Although, sticking with the whole "warped human perversion" motif, it would have been pretty cool to have the labia lion's mane be made of the same hands that are on various points of its and the phoenix's bodies. Done right, that would be amazing (and holyshitscary).

I think I agree with you on the monster design, it kind of reminds me of Giger's Alien in that way. But I don't really like the "sexy" pin-ups, though.

 Sidstyler wrote:
I think I agree with you on the monster design, it kind of reminds me of Giger's Alien in that way. But I don't really like the "sexy" pin-ups, though.

I agree with this, and the bigist reason I haven't thrown any support it's way :0 still not sure. I think that more discomforting then the monsters are a bit :0

You realize that the pin ups are completely separate from the game, yes?

 cincydooley wrote:
You realize that the pin ups are completely separate from the game, yes?

Ohh yes I think it's actuly fairly honest and I was being a little silly. I actuly like the pinups even if I find them a little silly so all good

 cincydooley wrote:
You realize that the pin ups are completely separate from the game, yes?

I did, actually. Does that mean I have to start liking them?

 Sidstyler wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
You realize that the pin ups are completely separate from the game, yes?

I did, actually. Does that mean I have to start liking them?

It was more directed towards Apple Fox stating that he hasn't thrown support for the game due to the pinups. If the base game and expansions don't contain the pinups, there isn't much of a reason to not throw money at the project due to the existence of something that isn't in the base sets. However, there may be a basis behind morally opposing the subject of sexualized fanservice.

*morgan freeman freckle appears*

lol, oh okay, somehow I completely skipped over that post.

Oooooooh, something is coming!

Mini Stretch Goal @ 875k! Dragon King Expansion Upgrade!
Update #38 · Dec. 29, 2012 · 1 comment

I am super pleased! The production / project management stars have aligned and we will be able to upgrade the Dragon King Expansion if we hit 875k!

Details will be posted then, for now enjoy this teaser :

I dunno what it is, but I like the look of (what I can only assume) is a fine walking stick...

Whatever it is I need it

(even if it has a walking stick made of hands)

grin

It's kingdom death so that may not be a walking cane, it could be a proboscis or someo other *ahem* appendage.

Does anyone know if he got a deal with a overseas warehouse?
Or if there will be any way to ship the items from UK/EU?

I belive Adam may be waiting to see how the Sedition Wars 3rd party shipping works out before making a decision as he's concerned things may not run to his high standards without him to supervise things. If the SW stuff goes well he may be persuaded otherwise

But at present I'd say it's unlikely (and we won't get a decision before the KS ends), so plan to pay the import tax/VAT and concider it a bonus if it does happen

(and if Adam does get something set up consider it a bonus)

Would you need to pay an import tax though? I can only speak for the UK as i dont know other countries laws but here you would only pay tax on something you buy, which is not what you do with kickstarter. Kickstarter gives you free rewards (or gifts) in exchange for the money they need to make the project happen - i havnt bought anything. Now since tax is charged at 20% of what it cist me 20% of nithing is still nothing.

I guess a lot will depend on how they ship it, but in my mind this is a gift and should be free from tax ( in the UK at least)

Stranger83 wrote:
Would you need to pay an import tax though? I can only speak for the UK as i dont know other countries laws but here you would only pay tax on something you buy, which is not what you do with kickstarter. Kickstarter gives you free rewards (or gifts) in exchange for the money they need to make the project happen - i havnt bought anything. Now since tax is charged at 20% of what it cist me 20% of nithing is still nothing.

I guess a lot will depend on how they ship it, but in my mind this is a gift and should be free from tax ( in the UK at least)

I am not sure I agree. Even if I pledge money on this KD campaign, I do not do it out of goodwill to support Kingdom Death out of genourosity. I do it because I fully expect that I will get goods in return for my money. And I honestly don't really care what people try to claim KS to be. It is an online shop/pre-order site.

Not according to kickstarter its not. Im not meanimg you cant think of it as a shop but if you thought a spoon was a knife it doesn't make it one, even if it can be used as one if you wish.

The point is kickstarter are very clear they are not a shop - and that the rewards are a gift given for your help in making the project a reality. If it is just a free reward then it shouldn't be taxed, according to UK law as it stands at the moment. Obviously it'll depend on how they ship the stuff - if they include an invoice and send it marked as sold goods then it'll get taxed, but I think it could just as legitimately be sent as a gift with an insert that says something like "thanks very much for your help in making the project a reality, please find enclosed your agreed gift" in which case it would not be taxed.

Edited it make it sound a little less confruntational.

Stranger83 wrote:
Would you need to pay an import tax though? I can only speak for the UK as i dont know other countries laws but here you would only pay tax on something you buy, which is not what you do with kickstarter. Kickstarter gives you free rewards (or gifts) in exchange for the money they need to make the project happen - i havnt bought anything. Now since tax is charged at 20% of what it cist me 20% of nithing is still nothing.

I guess a lot will depend on how they ship it, but in my mind this is a gift and should be free from tax ( in the UK at least)

Belgium is a horrible country when it comes to mailservices and import taxes.

1.If you send it as a gift you don't have to pay taxes if the value is lower then 45 Euro (about 65USD).
2.If you send it as a non-gift it the following rule. If the VAT on the object would be worth more then 22 EURO you have to pay, since BE customs sayt here is not VAT on US products (since they don't pay VAT I think?, different system) You have to pay an extra 22%

For example you buy goods worth 100EUR you pay 122EUR. + 20 Administration cost from the belgian postal service (extra rip off).
If you are unlucky I think there is even a 6% or maybe 15% import tax, it only applies to some goods or the goodwill of the custom services (which they don't have lol).

Pow! 875K has been overtaken!