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2013/01/04 02:50:41
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
cincydooley wrote: That may change my perspective on mine then. Trying to convince myself I like Carassco enough (and I do) to get past the penis tail. :-)
That's one of the best parts!
2013/01/04 02:55:59
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
cincydooley wrote: That may change my perspective on mine then. Trying to convince myself I like Carassco enough (and I do) to get past the penis tail. :-)
Or you could use some greenstuff and change it to a proper tail ending in a tuft of fur.
I, sir, am no Alan Carasco. :-).
2013/01/04 03:53:51
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
FYI, someone (with a BGG posting privileges) might want to point out that while the armor kits are not "KS exclusive" per se, they will not be available for individual purchase afterwards. That is, right now you can buy 5 Dragon Armor kits (for example) for $50, once the KS is over, you will only be able to get those in the Dragon King Expansion.
The thing that is really ballooning my pledge is getting extras of the Silk and Dragon armor kits.
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FYI, someone (with a BGG posting privileges) might want to point out that while the armor kits are not "KS exclusive" per se, they will not be available for individual purchase afterwards. That is, right now you can buy 5 Dragon Armor kits (for example) for $50, once the KS is over, you will only be able to get those in the Dragon King Expansion.
The thing that is really ballooning my pledge is getting extras of the Silk and Dragon armor kits.
Out of curiosity, what do you plan on doin with them?
Also, Adam, if you read this, I really need an updated wine list so I know which vintages ill be ordering ;-)
2013/01/04 08:52:38
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
I'd imagine that the Lantern festival is something that would be very sexualized, probably involving fertility (judging from what we've seen so far, the society of your settlement in Monster seems to be quite tribal). Such a celebration would probably lead to an orgy of some sort at some point.
Either way, this expansion looks amazing, I'm already down for it, and I want to see what the next goal is already. It looks quite interesting.
Schmapdi wrote: Penis monsters left and right no problem, but a pair of exposed breasts on a statue/lamp thing gets a censor bar and an optional shirt!
These are very odd standards ...
Hey... Free Shirt! Yeah!
2013/01/04 09:28:39
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
Opening the $1m e-mail crashed my phone with it's awesomeness! True story.
Definitely in for all the game stuff, gotta figureout how many pin-ups I can stretch to now...... damn you Poots!
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2013/01/04 10:37:02
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
I backed this Kickstarter early on, but there are a couple of issues that are tempting me to pull out, hopefully some of you who are more informed than me can help to allay my fears. Here are my issues:
1) IIRC It still hasn't been confirmed how the plastic models will be produced. There was talk about producing them in Ed's Trollcast which would be great, but I really wouldn't be interested in dropping $300-$500 if all the miniatures were cast in the same stuff used in the "experiment of death" figures. From what I have seen of them the quality simply wasn't good enough.
2) Quality control / casting issues; I've had problems when buying from the Kingdom Death store in the past which surprised me considering it was (and maybe still is) a 1-2 man operation. I purchased a first run collectors pinup Twilight Knight which came without a base or certificate. There was also a problem with the cast around the hood, like part of the mold had broken off in a previous casting. A pinup White Speaker that I purchased through ebay had a mold slip which pretty much ruined the model, I was 99%sure that it wasn't a recast.
I really like a lot of the miniatures and artwork (except for the rather ridiculous hands, or rubber gloves, which spoil certain miniatures a a tad), so I'm hoping that peopple can reassure me on the two issues above.
2013/01/04 13:34:51
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
No one noticed the Kingdom Death x ??? On the next goal yet so it looks like it's another cross over miniature and that looks like a soda pop bottle in her hand could we be about to see Candy and Cola the Kingdom Death Version! We'll find out in $12k should be this evening
The lantern festival is such a great set and the great hunters such a surprise addition I think if all you had was $200 to back this the Survivor and lantern sets are the way to go - I wish was still at $200
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2013/01/04 13:49:35
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
500, or 600 for all the expansions and additional armor kits of fifty bucks each?
As much as the CMON turn off, (for me,) I'm really leaning tword this one for the deal it is. As long as they don't gak it up it is an amazing game system, and pretty new concept to me in a "Board" game that continues to grow the game board.
In the beginning, I was going to build a KD board from some styro and scrap... That game play video is really making me want to go back in and readdress this project.
I am not a number.....
Question- You put your guys together, they make some advances, and then they get ganked... What happens to the dead guys? do you just throw the models away, or recut the stuff apart and rebuild it, or what?
Basic survivors, then you get some add ons, is there a way to gather up extra equipment sprues, and mix and match armor kits?
As well as that- this is really looking to buid up into a RPG/ tabletop, and in some instances, I can easily see settlements coming across each other... what happens with the inevitable chaos of fighting another settlement? Do you gain the added settlement, just the territories, the survivors AND the settlements resources, or do you just rob rape and pillage the whole lot and add in another settlement, basicly building up a kingdom?
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2013/01/04 13:55:37
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
Question- You put your guys together, they make some advances, and then they get ganked... What happens to the dead guys? do you just throw the models away, or recut the stuff apart and rebuild it, or what?
The models are actually pioneering a new technology that has them automatically combust the moment they die in game.
But in all seriousness, the character models are completely interchangeable, but do not have any snap on attachments. You'll have to pin or magnetize them if you want the models to dynamically represent the equipment of their respective characters.
Basic survivors, then you get some add ons, is there a way to gather up extra equipment sprues, and mix and match armor kits?
As I noted above, all the armour kits are modular and completely interchangeable with one another, so you can mix and match to your heart's delight.
2013/01/04 13:59:04
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I backed this Kickstarter early on, but there are a couple of issues that are tempting me to pull out, hopefully some of you who are more informed than me can help to allay my fears. Here are my issues:
1) IIRC It still hasn't been confirmed how the plastic models will be produced. There was talk about producing them in Ed's Trollcast which would be great, but I really wouldn't be interested in dropping $300-$500 if all the miniatures were cast in the same stuff used in the "experiment of death" figures. From what I have seen of them the quality simply wasn't good enough.
2) Quality control / casting issues; I've had problems when buying from the Kingdom Death store in the past which surprised me considering it was (and maybe still is) a 1-2 man operation. I purchased a first run collectors pinup Twilight Knight which came without a base or certificate. There was also a problem with the cast around the hood, like part of the mold had broken off in a previous casting. A pinup White Speaker that I purchased through ebay had a mold slip which pretty much ruined the model, I was 99%sure that it wasn't a recast.
I really like a lot of the miniatures and artwork (except for the rather ridiculous hands, or rubber gloves, which spoil certain miniatures a a tad), so I'm hoping that peopple can reassure me on the two issues above.
1. Nothing has been confirmend about what plastic will be used, however the figures for the KS have been designed with plastic production in mind (so less ultra thin stuff like the twilight sowrd, and less ultra shalllow detail.. for example he's said no Illuminated Lady in plastic even though many people have asked for her as her textures would not translate),
Adam has gone on record that the Experiment of Death was that, ie an experiment, and the quality for these releases should be better. (he may even end up going for a hybrid set up with a different plastic for fine stuff that might not cast properly otherwise if needed)...
Ed at Trollforged has certainly done some test casts (which we've seen) to show Adam what his material could do and it would be my personal preference too, but nothing is signed yet (with all the other work Trollforged has committed to Adam would have to be sure Ed could complete everything on time, and neither can be sure until the numbers are solidified after the post KS survey)
2. I've never personally had QC issues with a KD mini (not to say they don't happen, just that i've not seen any)
but if you purchaced via the KD web store I'd have got back to Adam to ask for a refund/replaceent/spare part (although i guess he might not be able to re-issue a certificate if he couldn't track what number you should have got)
If it was via CMON (or another partner) or ebay I'd have done the same although you'd probably have to settle for a refund there based on how fast stuff sells out
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2013/01/04 14:06:24
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I backed this Kickstarter early on, but there are a couple of issues that are tempting me to pull out, hopefully some of you who are more informed than me can help to allay my fears. Here are my issues:
1) IIRC It still hasn't been confirmed how the plastic models will be produced. There was talk about producing them in Ed's Trollcast which would be great, but I really wouldn't be interested in dropping $300-$500 if all the miniatures were cast in the same stuff used in the "experiment of death" figures. From what I have seen of them the quality simply wasn't good enough.
2) Quality control / casting issues; I've had problems when buying from the Kingdom Death store in the past which surprised me considering it was (and maybe still is) a 1-2 man operation. I purchased a first run collectors pinup Twilight Knight which came without a base or certificate. There was also a problem with the cast around the hood, like part of the mold had broken off in a previous casting. A pinup White Speaker that I purchased through ebay had a mold slip which pretty much ruined the model, I was 99%sure that it wasn't a recast.
I really like a lot of the miniatures and artwork (except for the rather ridiculous hands, or rubber gloves, which spoil certain miniatures a a tad), so I'm hoping that peopple can reassure me on the two issues above.
1. Nothing has been confirmend about what plastic will be used, however the figures for the KS have been designed with plastic production in mind (so less ultra thin stuff like the twilight sowrd, and less ultra shalllow detail),
Adam has gone on record that the Experiment of Death was that, ie an experiment, and the quality for these releases should be better. (he may even end up going for a hybrid set up with a different plastic for fine stuff that might not cast properly otherwise if needed)
2. I've never personally had QC issues with a KD mini (not to say they don't happen, just that i've not seen any)
but if you purchaced via the KD web store I'd have got back to Adam to ask for a refund/replaceent/spare part (although i guess he might not be able to re-issue a certificate if he couldn't track what number you should have got)
If it was via CMON (or another partner) or ebay I'd have done the same although you'd probably have to settle for a refund there based on how fast stuff sells out
I'll add my thoughts about this.
1.) I agree that I wouldnt put in a lot of $$ into this if the plastics were the same as in the Experiment of Death. But, as stated, nothing has yet been finalized. I hope, and I believe, that it will be Trollcast that will get the honour. What have I got to back that up? Nothing apart from that I know that Adam and Ed has been discussing this for several months PRIOR of this KS started. We also know that Ed already has supplied test casts for complicated KD miniatures. So I believe this will be the end result.
2.) I agree with Orlando here. I own just about all of the KD miniatures (and several doubles). The only issue I've ever had with any of these is that a single foot from the Forsaker pin-up had a miscast. Other than this, everything else has been top notch. You've must have been extremely unlucky. However, I also agree that QC can become an issue with THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of miniatures when you are 1 or 2 that will have to controll them and then package everything, etc. This will be no easy task.
Grot 6 wrote: As well as that- this is really looking to buid up into a RPG/ tabletop, and in some instances, I can easily see settlements coming across each other... what happens with the inevitable chaos of fighting another settlement? Do you gain the added settlement, just the territories, the survivors AND the settlements resources, or do you just rob rape and pillage the whole lot and add in another settlement, basicly building up a kingdom?
No rules for this as yet,
(I've seen several folk ask/speculate about it so I anticipate some fan made options appearing for example of Boardgame Geek
but Adam has said he is also planning a future game featuring the more 'heroic' characters from the Kingdom Death catalogue like the Twilight Knights, Achivists, White speakers etc si it might not be impossible for some of this to be addressed in that. There is one 'big' human 'civilization' in Kingdom Death where characters like the Great Game Hunters come from which might fit too
2013/01/04 14:11:15
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread
Question- You put your guys together, they make some advances, and then they get ganked... What happens to the dead guys? do you just throw the models away, or recut the stuff apart and rebuild it, or what?
The models are actually pioneering a new technology that has them automatically combust the moment they die in game.
But in all seriousness, the character models are completely interchangeable, but do not have any snap on attachments. You'll have to pin or magnetize them if you want the models to dynamically represent the equipment of their respective characters.
Basic survivors, then you get some add ons, is there a way to gather up extra equipment sprues, and mix and match armor kits?
As I noted above, all the armour kits are modular and completely interchangeable with one another, so you can mix and match to your heart's delight.
I think that the best way to use these armour kits is either 1.) magnetize them all so you can change (this will require a lot of patience and skills to do), - a true WYSIWYG or 2.) glue one armour kit on that you like the look of and use it to represent. I will go down the #2 route at least. Create a few awesome looking miniatures, since your cards will tell you anyway what armour etc. you have.
I hope so too. Helping KD go beyond $1M would probably have included a freebie if Adam hadn't decided to include more into the major game expansion pack instead.
More like building up a few of the basic guyds, use the added cards till you decide what you want, THEN worry about the upgrades.
Much in the same way as a Necromunda gang or Mordhiem Warband. I will probibly be adding the additionals in at a later date, and hopeing they continue to sell the sets in the future.
Added sprues of armor kitds might also be in order here, as well.
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
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