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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 20:55:11
Subject: Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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I'm going to participate in a kill team-campaign in 2 days and wanted some advice on what I should run for a 200 pts kill team. I own several armies so i came up with a couple kill teams for each army before sitting back and looking at them to decide which one would be best to play.
Things to know;
FOC allowance = 0-1 elite, 0-2 troops, 0-1 fast attack
200 pts to build kill team
Models fight as individual units
3 specialists models may be given any special rule from rulebook
No Vehicles Automatically Appended Next Post: 200 Pts - Black Templars Roster - Kill Team
Elite:
5 Sword Brethren Terminator Assault Squad, 200 pts
1 Terminator w/ Lightning Claws [Hatred (everything)]
1 Terminator w/ Lightning Claws [Preferred Enemy (everything)]
1 Terminator w/ Lightning Claws [Zealot]
2 Terminator w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Blood Angels Roster - Kill Team 1
Elite:
1 Sanguinary Priest, 75 pts
1 Sanguinary Priest in PA w/ Jump Pack [Shrouded]
Troops:
5 Assault Squad, 125 pts
3 Assault Marine w/ CCW; Bolt Pistol
1 Assault Marine w/ Meltagun [Master-Crafted]
1 Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol; Power Sword [Poisoned (4+)]
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Blood Angels Roster - Kill Team 2
Elite:
5 Sanguinary Guard, 200 pts
1 Sanguinary Guard w/ Power Axe [Poisoned (4+)]
1 Sanguinary Guard w/ Power Axe [Shred]
1 Sanguinary Guard w/ Power Axe [Shrouded]
2 Sanguinary Guard w/ Power Sword
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 1
Troops:
5 Chaos Space Marines, 110 pts (Veterans of the Long War)
3 Chaos Space Marine w/ CCW; Bolt Pistol
1 Chaos Space Marine w/ Plasma Gun
1 Aspiring Champion w/ Bolt Pistol; Power Maul
Fast Attack:
3 Chaos Spawn, 90 pts
1 Chaos Spawn [Eternal Warrior]
1 Chaos Spawn [Smash]
1 Chaos Spawn [It Will Not Die]
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 2
Troops:
10 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts
8 Cultist w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
1 Cultist w/ Flamer
1 Cultist Champion w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
10 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts
8 Cultist w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
1 Cultist w/ Flamer
1 Cultist Champion w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
Fast Attack:
3 Chaos Spawn, 90 pts
1 Chaos Spawn [Eternal Warrior]
1 Chaos Spawn [Smash]
1 Chaos Spawn [It Will Not Die]
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 3
Elites:
5 Chosen, 90 pts
4 Chosen w/ Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; CCW
1 Chosen Champion w/ Bolt Pistol; CCW [Preferred Enemy (everything)]
Troops:
10 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts
8 Cultist w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
1 Cultist w/ Flamer
1 Cultist Champion w/ CCW; Auto Pistol [Zealot]
10 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts
8 Cultist w/ CCW; Auto Pistol
1 Cultist w/ Flamer
1 Cultist Champion w/ CCW; Auto Pistol [Hatred (everything)]
Total Roster Cost: 200
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 4
Elites:
5 Chaos Terminators, 199 pts
2 Terminator w/ Power Axe; Combi-Meltagun
1 Terminator w/ Power Axe; Reaper Autocannon [Preferred Enemy (everything)]
1 Terminator w/ Power Fist; Combi-Boltgun [Zealot]
1 Terminator Champion w/ Combi-Boltgun; Power Maul [Smash]
Total Roster Cost: 199
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 5
Elites:
7 Plague Marines, 198 pts
3 Plague Marine w/ Plague Knife; Bolt Pistol
1 Plague Marine w/ Plague Knife; Bolt Pistol [Preferred Enemy (everything)]
1 Plague Marine w/ Plague Knife; Bolt Pistol [Smash]
1 Plague Marine w/ Plasma Gun [Master-Crafted]
1 Plague Champion w/ Plague Knife; Power Sword
Total Roster Cost: 198
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 6
Elites:
3 Chaos Terminators, 105 pts
2 Terminator w/ Power Axe; Combi-Meltagun
1 Terminator Champion w/ Combi-Boltgun; Power Maul
Fast Attack:
3 Chaos Spawn, 90 pts
1 Chaos Spawn [Eternal Warrior]
1 Chaos Spawn [Smash]
1 Chaos Spawn [It Will Not Die]
Total Roster Cost: 195
200 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Kill Team 7
Elites:
4 Chosen, 200 pts
2 Chosen w/ Lightning Claws
1 Chosen w/ Power Axe; Bolt Pistol [Preferred Enemy (Everything)]
1 Chosen w/ Power Axe; Bolt Pistol [Zealot]
1 Chosen Champion w/ Bolt Pistol; Power Maul; Melta Bomb [Smash]
Total Roster Cost: 200
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/25 20:55:34
1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 23:42:19
Subject: Re:Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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Personally i'd take the Black Templars. Stick your TH/SS at the front for the 3+ invulns, march them at your enemy, smiling menacingly while you do it. If you get there you've won. If you die on your way across the board, blame the dice rolls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 00:04:05
Subject: Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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the models fight as single units, it's kill team. Having the TH/SS upfront wont really mean anything unless they are targeted. They can simply be ignored
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 00:51:21
Subject: Re:Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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No line of sight rules? Surely if all 5 models are operating as separate units then the basic rule of not being able to shoot through one unit to hit another would apply? Just be clever with your line of sight and hide your LC's behind the TH/SS. Moreover, if they're operating as a single unit of 5, the 6th ed rules mean the guys at the front have to take the shots, so in either case having the TH/SS guys there can only be beneficial.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 01:48:01
Subject: Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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They are separate units of single models, that's how kill team games usually work.
Hiding 3 models behind 2 would proof quite difficult specially considering how other units will also be spread out and targetting from different directions.
Sad to say your plan just doesn't work in kill team games. TH/SS won't be there absorbing wounds, their use is more inclined towards bashing in a character or leader in close combat.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 02:41:53
Subject: Re:Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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I like the sanguinary guard one. The problem you'll have with the black templars termie one is that as soon as you face a shooty kill team your as good as dead because your opponent will just avoid you and shoot you to death, but with either ba kill team you'll have superior mobility in most cases and still be good in cc. Automatically Appended Next Post: plus the sanguinary guard kill team would look really cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 03:11:51
Subject: Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Yeah i agree mobility is an issue as well as shooty kill teams playing keep away
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 03:18:14
Subject: Re:Best 200 pts Kill Team Poll
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Enceladus wrote:No line of sight rules? Surely if all 5 models are operating as separate units then the basic rule of not being able to shoot through one unit to hit another would apply? Just be clever with your line of sight and hide your LC's behind the TH/ SS. Moreover, if they're operating as a single unit of 5, the 6th ed rules mean the guys at the front have to take the shots, so in either case having the TH/ SS guys there can only be beneficial.
Nothing stops you from shooting past one unit to hit another. The rulebook even tells you what sort of cover save the target gets when you do that. Since it's 5+, the Terminators already have that for an invuln, so it's not even a real benefit. When they're a single unit, having TH/ SS at the front just means they'll force you to resolve armor saves first in the case of mixed wounds and diminishes the value of SS for soaking plasma.
You need to get across the board in kill team. Go with the Sanguinary guard.
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