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so i have my list but im short like 50 points so random upgrades go for the iron warriors! oh are we doing 1,500 again? never know i might surprise you and bring my cadians.
Thats ok i was hunting ebay for vostroyan mortar teams and they are expensive too. looking forward to our game buddy.

So are you playing with 1450? I could put together a list at that points level to keep it even.


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I promise to have some actual hobby progress on this page. I am currently working slowly on about 14 guardsmen. That is a strange number because I wanted to do one squad, so sergeant model, heavy bolter team, and meltagunner, but then when choosing the other troopers, I decided to go ahead and do all of one pose of running Valhallans.

I'm currently applying the white, and willprobably move on to the flesh this weekend, then their dark blue if those old Ral Partha paints are still salvageable. If not, I'll substitute some more blue, less dark grey colors from GW, like Necron Abyss. Or Kantor Blue now, I guess. I still have a couple of unopened pots of Necron Abyss. So we'll try that.

the list i built is currently sitting at 1450. just need to fanagle some stuff around to make it better.


I can also make a proposition with you. If you want we can do a painting escalation to a point level. start with 500 points and work our way up to what ever point limit you want. And we can make it a semi escalation campaign too. so fluffy lists and painting.

since we played that game i been sorting out all sorts of odds and ends with my armies. my cadians need a 2 chimera, five guardsmen, hell hound and a basilisk painted. my iron warriors are good for now. so ill even start a new army for this escalation.. should be quite fun any way give it some thought and tell me what you think.

hope your paint is salvageable

take care man
Bama

If its not salvageable, I have options.

And sure, but... painting is so haaaaaaard.




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But I am working on about 14 dudes right now. I've got most of the white on them, and I want to be finished with that this weekend and start getting faces done, and start on their boots and trousers and trim.

Well good to have options. painting isn't that hard. just try to do a dude a day or batch paint like three dudes a day break it up into small manageable pieces thats how i get through it. looking forward to seeing the new guys painted.

They won't be finished this weekend. Like, not even close. I decided to go ahead and put the tracks on the second Griffin I found, and finding those took about an hour. Then I no longer had the T3 section of track I needed. I think I traded that to someone for something before I found the second Griffin in storage, so didn't know I needed them. That was the track piece that had four links as one piece, but I pieced together enough two link sections to make it up. It doesn't look as good, but it's not that noticeable. Then I slathered black paint on the mortar assembly. I'll drybrush that in boltgun someday. Or leadbelcher I think it is now. I also had to touch up my Demolisher a little bit. It's ready to go now. I know it's not modeled for current rules, what with it's lascannon, and plasma cannon sponsons, but I loves it.


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The one thing I love about Guard though... is that the army list you'll face this Sunday is completely different from last week. I like having options, yes, sir.

Maybe I'll put together my Manticore before our next game, too.

Wow, who would have thought playing a game would get me so excited to start painting again? Heh.

And yeah, we can discuss this 500 point escalation thing. Anything to get me dedicated to getting this Guard army done. Although I have to say, I think I have way more models than I need in one sense, and not enough in another. I ran out of meltaguns in my current list, and grenade launchers in another.

well my buddy nick is also gonna come up to moxies this sun and if i can get my other buddy mark out to we can have a two v two game.

yea man getting excited about painting for me is playing a game. speaking of valhallans there is a person trying to get rid of some on the swap shop. if you're interested. i think i might have an extra track piece at my house have to dig through my bits man ill look for it and try to get it to you this sunday. you said you need the t 3 section?

question now is do you wanna fight my guard or do you wanna fight my chaos marines?

I and three friends (two new ones,0 all of the same mindset when it comes to playing, fun first, got together today and played an IG on IG battle. Each of us brought 1500 points, Mark and I played Valhallans and Steel Legion, and his tanks and soldiers were wonderfully painted. He did a good job duplicating the Steel Legion camo scheme. Mine were mostly white (as usual, something I really need to work on.) Our opponents, alabamaheretic and NIck were playing Vostroyans and Cadians.

Let me start by saying that I would have taken a lot more flamers had I known it would be all IG.

As it was, we had an eclectic mix of units. From what I can remember, Nick and alabameretic had:


Mark and I had:


I won't go turn by turn because I am not good at remembering stuff that way, but I'll hit some highlights. It was a mess. Dudes dying left and right, although alabamaheretic has the best IG dice-rolling I've ever seen. He routinely made hits, wounds and armor saves that IG should have failed. It was completely the opposite of his Iron Warriors rolling last week. Just to show you, here is a pic of one of his armor save rolls:



They rolled and got initiative. The game only lasted three turns because we ended up having to leave, but in those three turns, my Pask Vanquishers was stun locked the entire time. I was able to fire normally only on turn three and whiffed big time. My Exterminator did a bang-up job again by wiping out a squad after my lascannon sentinels blew up their chimera. Nick seemed to be fixated on my Sentinels the entire game and only succeeded in immobilizing one of them. But they were carrying lascannons and had a good firing lane, so that didn't really affect them much.

heretic had two large combined platoons in the middle of the board and Mark and I spent the whole game whittling them down. He went to ground constantly, which was really annoying but with the orders he was giving them to Get Back in the Fight, worked really well or him.

Oh, and did I mention Nick made it a point to shoot my Rough Riders off the table first turn? Yeah, those poor horses didn't do nothin' to nobody, but he kilt 'em, he did. I would have liked to see how they faired in assault, especially since they had a real chance to hurt IG, but them's the breaks. He also used the sniper vet squad to come inform reserve beside my Wyverns and blow one up with krak grenades. Of course, it exploded, taking all of his squad but 4.

Surprisingly, most of the armor stayed on the board the whole game. We had some immobilizations, some weapons destroyed, a lot of shaken and stunned, but only a few explosions, and that was all Chimeras. Here's what the board looked like during turn three:


All in all, it was a fun game, but I'm taking flamers next time we play IG on IG.

It wasnt a bane wolf it was a devil dog but it didnt even see play which would of really wreck that tank line of yours and marks. I had a blast i think every one had a good time.
Paint mo of your dudes man!

I dunno if we will be doing another IG on IG fight any time soon but man was that a blast..

So whats your painting commitment this week? cause im doing up a havoc squad and some obliterators. so seven chuckle heads for me.

Still trying to finish that one group of 14 troopers. They're slowly coming along.

EDIT: I'm currently trying to recreate an ooooold Ral Partha paint for leather that finally dried out beyond all repair.

well least they are coming along slowly. i been sorting things and trying to build a 500 point list to come whoop up on you cause im writing a campaign and stuff and i'd like you to play in it. we can also invite mark and nick if you wanna. but im slowly writing things out. i bring what i have written up this sunday coming up.

Wait, do we need 500 pts this Sunday?

not really unless you wanna see the stuff i have written for the campaign. and then it would start off at 500. and go from there.

it really depends on how much i get done this week on stuff. ill let you know by friday ok?

All right. But just to let you know... 500 points for IG is going to a company command squad, 2 platoon squads, 4 infantry squads and a chimera. That's a lot of painting for 520 points, actually.

An all guard vs guard battle!

Game of Thrones 40k: Clash of Governors!

Oh, and I found out we totally did that Wyvern wrong. It's twin-linked, so I should have been rerolling those scatter dice.

Also, because it has Shred, I should have been rerolling the To Wound rolls.

You should have had to make a lot more armor saves on those things.

I wonder what they will do with the new edition effects on Forgeworld minis, I have a battery of Thudd-Guns, though they are not listed as twinlinked, they do lob 4 templates S5 AP5 and that there are 3 doing this......

I expect since they aren't twin-linked, they'd work similar to what we were doing Sunday. You roll your first one with the scatter dice and 2d6, then roll the scatter die for each template after that, and place it next to the previous one.

With the way they scattered all over the place, those infantry would have had to be tightly packed to do much, and they weren't really. I was disappointed, but now I know why. The Wyvern has rules to overcome those limitations, which I didn't use.

I re-checked the rules in the IA book on them, I also have more up-to dat Vraks campaign, but as long as they stay near each other,,,6" apart, One can do a spotting round which leaves a marker amongst the squad if it hits, and finishes it's 4 rounds , the other two can use the spotting round and just land no rolls needed, except for where the rounds all land past the first auto hit. as they are then a barrage of S5/AP5 3" templates. I did this before, also used standard mortars, grenade launchers and Basilisks and a Leman Russ with BC army

30 templates hit my opponents in one round of fire.

I counted up how many models I need for my 520 point troops and HQ list. It turns out I'm not too far from having a painted army. I'll still probably paint some more to replace the older, not-as-well painted models, but just to get painted models on the field, I only need to paint about 11 more troopers, my company commander, 2 lieutenants, 3 sergeants, 5 voxcasters, 5 grenade launchers, 1 Chimera turret, and about 4 autocannon teams. That's still a bit of work, don't get me wrong. But it's not having to paint all the models in my possession. And I could get around 500 points done, and my HQ and troops choices out of the way.

I still need to find and buy one more Valhallan voxcaster mini though. It would suck to have almost all of them, but the one. I'm also counting it already as one I need to paint. Are the voxcasters really worth it? Orr would I be better spending those points elsewhere? That's around 30 points.


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 shasolenzabi wrote:
I re-checked the rules in the IA book on them, I also have more up-to dat Vraks campaign, but as long as they stay near each other,,,6" apart, One can do a spotting round which leaves a marker amongst the squad if it hits, and finishes it's 4 rounds , the other two can use the spotting round and just land no rolls needed, except for where the rounds all land past the first auto hit. as they are then a barrage of S5/AP5 3" templates. I did this before, also used standard mortars, grenade launchers and Basilisks and a Leman Russ with BC army

30 templates hit my opponents in one round of fire.

The first article on Valhallans when they were released had the Valhallans coming equipped as a ten man squad with mortar team and flamer. I always wanted to field an all mortar list, with Basilisks and Griffons, and just use the mortars to guess range, then blast hell out of the enemy formations.

I had my 10 man teams all mortar equipped, and mortar hvy wpn teams as support, all squads had grenade launchers, maybe a few with flamers for close in, Basilisks and the Thudds, enemy had nids, and he lost heavily, his one team that made it close to me got Ogryned to death, as they had also been hammered on the way in. those that got hit and came to rifle range got "First rank fire, Second rank!"

That sounds glorious.

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That sounds glorious.

It was, My IG with this configuration were slaying Nids, Orks, other IG SoB's and even Marines and old GK as this was 5th pre latest codex. I had just gotten my 85dollar FW minis attached tractors to tow them and got them fighting ASAP My battle tables were getting steel rains from the skies with lasgun shots sideways. Of course Chaos Marines messed my day up though.

Yeah. That's the thing about playing just about any army really. With the prevalence of power armor, you basically have to build your all-comers list with that in mind.

With that in mind, I've decided on my first ~500 points to paint up. It comes to exactly 520 points the way it's configured.

Company Command Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher, autocannon

Platoon Command Squad w/ voxcaster, 3 flamers, chimera w/ heavy flamer

2 infantry squads w/ grenade launchers, autocannons and voxcasters

Platoon Command Squad w/ voxcaster, autocannon, grenade launcher

Infantry squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher, autocannon

Infantry squad w/ grenade launcher, autocannon

EDIT: That means I would only have to paint another 35 models to actually have that all painted. That would be wonderful.


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I'm toying with the idea of putting all my Valhallan weapons teams on those nice new big bases. It might give me some modeling opportunities. And it would conform to the new standard, but as they are now, I can remove a model if a wound is applied to the team. So... I'm torn.


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Okay, just so you guys don't think I'm lying, here is some progress I'm making. I probably did more tonight than I have in a while. I've mainly been working on building up the white on these figs, but tonight I started working on the heavy bolter and I can tell my skill has improved greatly. My original model here is just plain white, no definition at all. The new HB model, I've tried to not only leave shadows in the folds of the cloth on the greatcoat, but I've used washes to leave lines around the edges of the HB itself, to make it look like grime has built up during a long campaign. I'm still a long way from weathering my tanks, and adding mud to my boots, but this is a start.

Looking good Valhalla!

nice looking dudes V! im slowly working on the vostroyans.

need to do some more stuff with the campaign before we get that under way and ask a few more folks see if they are interested and what not.

well im sure what ever you decide they will look great man. talk to you soon.

Company Command Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher, autocannon

Platoon Command Squad w/ 4 meltas, Chimera w/ Heavy Flamer

Infantry Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher and autocannon

Infantry Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher and autocannon

Heavy Weapons Squad w/ 3 lascannons

Heavy Weapons Squad w/ 3 lascannons

Platoon Command Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher and autocannon

Infantry Squad w/ voxcaster, grenade launcher and autocannon

Infantry Squad w/ grenade launcher and heavy bolter

That's 750 points. I like this set-up and thought it worked well for me last time I used it. I changed the flamers to meltas on the one PCS in a Chimera and gave them one more because I took out their voxcaster, feeling they didn't really need it versus having the extra melta. I would have straight autocannons across all squads except that I only have 5 and so used one Heavy Bolter. I feel like this gives me a good firebase, although I could make an argument for losing the HWS's and giving those lascannons to the squads, then adding in two more infantry squads per platoon.

I think from now one, I'll make lists using this as my base.

really digging that setup man.
that seems like a solid army base. lot better than my vostroyans atm. so i convinced the gf to play in the campaign as well shes running a slaaneshy chaos marine list. kinda different and not the norm thats for sure. if i get enough players ill just be the mod.

squad of vets with 3 meltas can hardly go wrong there! In city fight I used the manhole covers trick.

In trying out all my options here, I've completely forgotten about the vets. I may have to take a squad Sunday to give them a go.


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I've discovered I do not have the patience to edge highlight tires on Valhallan heavy bolters. It devolved into my slapping a dark grey on there, then slapping Devlan Mud on it to cover it up.


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I finally finished one model. One. But it's a start. And I really don't think the rest are going to take that much time. It's mostly just making myself sit still and do them. I really hope to have... more... done this weekend.



And I know this isn't perfect by any means, but I hope you can see the improvement from the one on the left to the new one on the right.