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Calculating Commissar




pontiac, michigan; usa

You may ask why make such an ineffective list. Part of it is for laughs but the other part is for skill and to see if we can make units that are normally ineffective effective under certain conditions. You see if we're made to fight with stupid stuff we might actually find they have a use (even if it's a poor one) for something.

For instance i plan on using skavenslaves with slings. Why do you ask? Well if i can shoot into weapons teams they might be ok. Other than that i'll see if they can do anything whatsoever worthwhile. Possibly snipe a lone unit or harass some war beast type units or something. Would they be ineffective? Yes. However it's a cost of only 2 and a half points per guy for each unit that i'd run in 20 possibly (2 ranks of 10). That's 50 points. It's not a whole lot lost.

The other things i plan on testing for my skaven are doom flayers and some special named characters. Oh and the vermin lord! Lol let's make this as dumb as possible. For some reason i think i'd skip out on the poisoned wind globadiers though. I just don't have the money for something that i care so little for right now.

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Frenzied Berserker Terminator






Highborn on Great Eagle
4x 8 Glade Riders with Musician

How much more crappy can you get?
   
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Liche Priest Hierophant





Bergen

I think you will find that if a "bad" unit becomes efficient in the emergent local meta it is not in fact a bad unit, but one that the persieved objectivaty of the unit does not represent it's potensial.

Threds like these are based on wrong asumtions that a unit is bad when it in fact is not.

Edit: I see now that you want to theorice a bad list. A wood elf melle lord withouth a horse and use the rest of the points on a core mounted unit with some 100 members depending on your point value. The act of destruction is so mutch easier then the act of creation.

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Ogre Tyrant (Biting Blade, Armor of Silvered Steel, Talisman of Preservation) 305 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

100 Gnoblars with banner and musicion 270 pts

14 Gnoblars 35 pts


2500 pts

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

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It's too easy to build something using all 1 type. I amend this challenge to say you have to have 25% core and 25% special, max of one hero/lord and the less points you spend the better. Would say rare, but some armies simply don't have much.

Style points: it has to LOOK like a decent army but in actuality because of game rules would really suck. Like having buffing units with no units to buff. So the more you can't tell it sucks until you actually think about it, the more you have succeeded.

Edit: and can't use special chars. They are too easy to make sucky.

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Hey, no moving the goalposts

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Master Necromancer.

Add zombies. Add zombies. Add zombies.

You might tarpit anything, but you won't kill anything.
   
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pontiac, michigan; usa

Let's see.

Vermin lord, ikit claw, grey seer thanquol, tretch craventail and a crap ton of skavenslaves.

Actually that'd cost too many lord points so how about a vermin lord and tretch craventail with a crap ton of skavenslaves and quite a few clanrat units all armed with doom flayers.

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This is almost too easy with DoC but:

For a Lord you of course take a Daemon Prince. Spend 35 pts to make him dedicated to TZ and then Dark Magister which allows him to reroll a miscast, but he's not a spell caster so he can't ever get a miscast, so both of those are simply wasted 100%.

Hero Herald of TZ on a Chariot, so he doesn't get a LoS and your whole army starts crumbling when he dies and/or lord. Give him Winged Horror as those are straight wasted points since the chariot can already fly and won't matter unless it's killed from under him, which won't happen likely.

Have all your Core be Plaguebearers with no musician or standard. So the worst unmodified daemons that are also slow and can't reform or do much well. Take no icons. Form them 10x1 so they never have ranks and are never steadfast on an Unstable unit.

For Specials, take as many Nurglings as you can fit. Go swarms! Again, no bonuses for poison or such.

For rare take Exalted seeker Chariot at a whopping 220 pts. It's 10 speed is mitigated by the fact all your Core and Specials move at 4. So it has to ride out there alone OR putter along with your Core/Special.

Of course take no banners and thus no rerolls on LD tests.

   
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I still think it would eat my Gnoblar list for breakfast

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Of course it would. But you didn't follow the updated instructions. Only a few armies would be even eligible to do the originally stated army and they would simply take max fodder core. That's not a challenge.

   
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pontiac, michigan; usa

Haha that sounds pretty funny duke.

Keep the lists coming.

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Someone else can finetune this. But a simple one is O&G.

Take some big huge lines of night goblins. Like 20 wide 1 deep. 3 fanatics each. Even numbers of them. With an upgraded night goblin shaman in it (cuz he doesn't help their animosity tests and just makes it more expensive).

Line them up like
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

And when the first unit reaches a point to release fanatics, it releases them in the gap at an angle. And they are so wide in their random movement the fantics will splat through one or both groups. And/or the animosity of the bottom one will make it charge through.

Also, have a black orc big boss in a group of orc biguns with shield and spears sitting far away. Cuz they will eventually get animosity and the BO will start killing them. After a few turns he'll probably kill half of them.

Specials: snotlings.

For Rares have some river trolls (most expensive) sitting by themselves. They will fail stupidity for most of the game and the rest of the army will be dead before you bother with them. For extra lols, put a Mangler squig or two in front of them, have the trolls go first for movement, they fail stupidity, walk forward into the mangler squigs...

   
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What if i used bunches of skavenslaves but all like 2 ranks deep so they all had LD 2 or 3 with 'strength in numbers' and then just threw them at the enemy to constantly throw them out of position and did this all game . Hahaha!

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For Empire, something along the lines of...

General on foot, light armour (I think he comes with that), handgun, so he's static or cannot use it. Hey, Ld 9 and HtL, that cannot be stupid at first glance, right?

Heroes: None other than Engineer Hans Wurst on his trusty Robohorse.

Core: Hmm, units of 40 archers, 20 Spears or 5-men units of core lancers could all fit the bill. With the foot General, I tend to the latter.

Elites: Healthy mix of Flagellants and mortars gives us an expensive, slow glasscannon and an overpriced weak ranged "threat".

No wizard, no hatred, no buff wagons, big units with weak shooting and no ranks, or small units that cannot be buffed, with few attacks.



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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer





New Orleans, LA

Lord
Beastlord with heavy armor and a shield. Primevil Club

Doombull - Heavy Armor, great weapon
Wizarding Hat :3


Heros

Moonclaw on Umbralok!

Core

X 3 Ungors units of 50(full command with spears)

X2 units of ungor raiders(10 each)

Special

8 Centigors

Rare

Jabberslythe

Good lord, I take it back, this army might actually work. My opponent's fits of laughter will ensure my victory.

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Armies:
4000+
2000
125 Khador
1500 Beastmen


W/L/D
14/11/10
4/1/3
 
   
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Dark Elves:

(440) Dreadlord General
Wizard's Hat
Manticore

(285) Death Hag BSB
Banner of Nagarythe
Black Lotus
Hand of Khaine
Cry of war
(246) 12 Shades, Full Command, Light Armor
(130) Assasin
Black Lotus
Cloak of Twighlight

(725) 30 Dark Riders, Full Command, Shields, Crossbows, Horde formation

(78) 5 Executioners, Full Command
(95) Tullaris of Har Ganeth

(100) Reaper Bolt Thrower
(100) Reaper Bolt Thrower
(100) Reaper Bolt Thrower
(100) Reaper Bolt Thrower


I tried to include some sense into this. I think there's a slight chance someone could make a list like this on purpose, so there you go

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This is basically one of my 2500 Beastmen lists.


Also, this is the alternative list, just for fun and to see what it can do.

Doombull
Gnarled Hide, Charmed Shield, Heavy Armor, Arabyan Carpet, Sword of Swift Slaying

Great Bray Shaman
Talisman of Endurance, Level 4, Extra Hand Weapon, Jagged Dagger, Lore of Beasts

Wargor
BSB, Beast Banner, Heavy Armor, Shield

Bray-Shaman
Dispell Scroll, Additional Hand Weapon, Lore of Shadow

Bray-Shaman
Chalice of Dark Rain, Additional Hand Weapon, Lore of Shadow

Bray-Shaman
Herdstone, Additional Hand Weapon, Lore of Shadow

Gor Herd x40
Full Command, Additional Hand Weapons
Gor Herd x20 [Ambush]
Full Command, Additional Hand Weapons
Ungor Raiders x5
Ungor Raiders x5
Ungor Raiders x5 [Ambush]
Ungor Raiders x5 [Ambush]

Harpies x5
Scout
Harpies x5
Scout

Jabberslythe
Jabberslythe

Half the list flies, and half of what doesn't Ambushes.
   
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Excited Doom Diver





Lizardmen - Skink Combat Army Ahoy!

Lord:

Tehenhauin

Heroes:

Tiktaq'To

Skink Chief with Burning Blade of Chotek and the Maiming Shield

Core:

50 Skinks

50 Skinks

Special:

16 Terradons

Rare:

3 Barbed Razordons

3 Barbed Razordons

2000 points.

Some very scary stuff in here at first glance - the Terradons (joined by Tiktaq'to, of course) can do an average of 34 hits against a unit it moves over... But that unit costs almost 800 points for a unit with T3, no armour, and only 34 wounds.

Good luck getting the "combat" blocks to do anything. They're too big to maneuver easily, have almost no combat ability and almost no armour, and even with the help of Tehenhauin's magic will never stand up to even an average-quality fighting unit. They aren't even close to hammers, and die too easily to be anvils - not that anvils are any use without hammers, of course.
   
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Tons of snotlings and the cheapest night goblin hero with no extra equipment.

WHFB 3000 pts
40k 1000 pts
40k 1000 pts 
   
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Oceanside, CA

How about the stupidest army ever?
Goblin Great Shaman on Aracknarok, (level 3 wizard) terrifying mask of Eee! (causes terror, nobody can use his leadership)
4xcommon goblin blocks of 30, full command, shields, short bows, and 3 nasty skulkers.
3x8 trolls
5 river trolls
5 stone trolls

2400 points. Army is Ld6, and you're taking 5 Ld4 stupidity checks per turn.

-Matt

 thedarkavenger wrote:

So. I got a game with this list in. First game in at least 3-4 months.
 
   
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An all cavalry list is the least effective
   
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Drakhun





Jayo'r wrote:
An all cavalry list is the least effective




Tell that to an Bretonnian player.

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pontiac, michigan; usa

welshhoppo wrote:
Jayo'r wrote:
An all cavalry list is the least effective




Tell that to an Bretonnian player.


Maybe you should throw out lots of pegasus knights or something. That'd probably be ineffective.

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2500 Pts - Skaven Roster

Vermin Lord (500 pts)

Plague Priest (166 pts)
. . 1 Plague Priest, 166 pts (Beserk Rage; General; Hand Weapon; Plague Censer; Frenzy)
. . . . 1 Great Pox Rat (Poisoned Attacks)
. . . . 1 Poisoned Attacks
. . . . 1 Rat Hound Bodyguard

Night Runners (30#, 263 pts)
. . 29 Night Runners, 263 pts (Hand Weapon; Extra Hand Weapon; Throwing Star; Extra Attack)
. . . . 1 Warp-Grinder Weapon Team (Warp-Grinder; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour)

Clanrats (21#, 135 pts)
. . 20 Clanrats, 135 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour)
. . . . 1 Doom-Flayer Weapon Team (Doom-Flayer; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour)

Clanrats (21#, 135 pts)
. . 20 Clanrats, 135 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour)
. . . . 1 Doom-Flayer Weapon Team (Doom-Flayer; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour)

Clanrats (21#, 135 pts)
. . 20 Clanrats, 135 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour)
. . . . 1 Doom-Flayer Weapon Team (Doom-Flayer; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour)

Clanrats (21#, 135 pts)
. . 20 Clanrats, 135 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour)
. . . . 1 Doom-Flayer Weapon Team (Doom-Flayer; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour)

Skavenslaves (20#, 44 pts)
. . 19 Skavenslaves, 44 pts (Hand Weapon)
. . . . 1 Pawleader (Hand Weapon)

Rat Swarm (10#, 250 pts)
. . 10 Rat Swarm, 250 pts (Swarm; Unbreakable)

Warplock Jezzails (15#, 300 pts)
. . 15 Warplock Jezzails, 300 pts (Hand Weapon; Warplock Jezzail)

Rat Ogres (11#, 437 pts)
. . 10 Rat Ogres, 437 pts (Beserk Rage; Causes Fear; Frenzy; Stomp)
. . . . 1 Master Moulder (Always Strikes Last; Hand Weapon; Great Weapon; Whip; Light Armour)

Total Roster Cost: 2500


So your 500 point lord can't be the general, and will die pretty fast.

Your general is a T4 W2 Plague Priest who can't benefit from LoS because he is cavalry. His Plague Censor might kill him, and if it doesn't his Wolf Rat might!

You core is a large block of tunneling night runners (who will have a hard time NOT hitting a unit when they come out of the tunnel), a bunch of minimal clan rats with Doom-Flayers, some Rat Swarms, and a single unit of Skavenslaves with a Pawleader to challenge out characters and get uberkilled.

Special choices include a 15 strong block of Jezzails: Sure, they look scary but if you go more than 5 wide your Ld is "run away from that leaf!" low and if you stay 5 wide you're losing 100 points of shots!

Other special is a large block of Rat Ogres with a single Master Moulder leading them. The Master Moulder has a great weapon for added lols, so he'll get pasted quickly (he's a character, so he has to be in the front rank!) and then the ROgres are subject to Stupidity.

Now, it CAN work. It's a horrible list, but 10 R.Ogres is nothing to scoff at , 15 jezzails theoretically might kill a knight or something, and a Vermin Lord is a nasty beasty. Doesn't make it not a horrible list.

Good luck!
   
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Not sure on points costs but

Zombies!!!

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Australia

2000 point VC list, 1 lvl1 necromancer on a corpse cart with no upgrades then 45 units of 10 zombies each with a banner and muso.

The second the necromancer dies (which he will since he can't hide in a unit) the army crumbles.

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^better without the corpse cart, because that could give zombies ASF (I think). And just put the necromancer on his own. (I understand the reasoning for the corpse cart, it's just not that un-useful)

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Seattle WA

 jonolikespie wrote:
2000 point VC list, 1 lvl1 necromancer on a corpse cart with no upgrades then 45 units of 10 zombies each with a banner and muso.

The second the necromancer dies (which he will since he can't hide in a unit) the army crumbles.


Have them deploy faceing backwards.


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High elves 2000pts

Lord

Archmage on Sun dragon, Talisman of loec - 485pts lore of light

Hero

Dragon Mage, level 2, Blade of sea gold - 425pts 910pts

Core

3x33 Archers - 1089pts 1999pts

Deploy archers 1 model per rank, with 30 ranks

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