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Experiment 626 wrote:
I think it's only fair that legislation is put into place to give the poor retail guys a couple days they can kick back and actually see their families.

Up here, it's country-wide that no retailer can open on;
New Year's Day
Easter Sunday
Canada Day
Thanksgiving
Christmas

Unless a store/mall is deemed a 'tourist area', it's illegal for stores to open those days.

I mean, seriously, is it really going to kill people or alter their entire life if there's barely 4-5 days of the year they can't go shopping?!?

True but Thanksgiving in Canada is in October.

I don't see why making legislation to protect citizens from themselves on the worst of days, like black friday is necessarily a bad thing.

I mean, people who go into those places (and aren't working there) are fething dumb... I mean, they HAVE to realize that in almost all the stores that do BF stuff, have a TON of stock in the back rooms that they'll just pull out once the idiots are mostly cleared out.


I mean, frankly any legislation would have to be tailored to encompass all Federal holidays, not just Thanksgiving, which to me is at risk of losing it's name (I mean, how thankful are people really if they are trying to get on with their Christmas shopping before it's even friday, or even on friday itself?)

 helgrenze wrote:
Having worked retail for 20+ years, let me defend the companies that are doing "staggered" sales on Thanksgiving and Black Friday.....

One of the primary reasons is not money. It's Safety.
Many retail companies do not want to see this every freaking year.....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dIBL4tYQPI

Want to look at who is to blame for Black Friday sales creeping into Thanksgiving, America? Try the mirror first.

That video reminded me of watching a bunch of hungry Lions dismantle a Wildebeast.


GG

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I mean, people who go into those places (and aren't working there) are fething dumb... I mean, they HAVE to realize that in almost all the stores that do BF stuff, have a TON of stock in the back rooms that they'll just pull out once the idiots are mostly cleared out.

Ah... no.

The doorbuster deals are quite deliberately shipped to the stores in VERY limited quantities. The doorbuster is often a money-loosing sale... whose only goal is to get the suckers... I mean, customers into the store in a buying mood. Once the doorbusters are gone to the first five people, the rest wind up buying something... and the company profits.

Ugly, targeting people's gullibility like that. But that's the way business is done in America now.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I still think this might be a bridge too far though. I also had to work on Thanksgiving for about 4 hours, and while I wasn't happy with it, I don't want a government official telling me I can't, either. But, you know, I get doubletime on holidays and Target employees don't so their mileage probably varies.

It's nice that Target is generous like that, but it isn't necessary to pay extra. If the store opens at 7pm on thanksgiving day you either show up for your "voluntary" shift, or you get fired.

I think you may have misread my last sentence there.