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I had a depressing night...the most depressing since I went on that weekend retreat a while ago...leaving me bitter and lonely about the world, my parents, and people in general, and the realization that the ideals I seek IRL are dead and unattainable. So I want to revise my statement about becoming a Daemon Prince to be 'the best in something'; now I just want to create my own world, and destroy everything else.

Depends who was offering and what I had to do to get it. In order from least to most likely to accept if they were making the offer: Nurgle, Khrone, Tzeentch, Slaneesh. I mean, if I had to murder a bunch of people to ascend, I probably wouldn't do it because they are the frickin Chaos Gods, who's to say that I'm going to make 10 million sacrifices only to have them ascend billy from down the street? But if I just have to be a manipulative dick or throw a couple of good orgies, I'd be on that.

Hrm.. if I have untold powers and dominated the planet, wouldn't I also be stuck with all the work of making sure it runs well? Holy crap that's gonna be a lot of paperwork. If I trust my senchal, that means he's really ruling... blah, with great powers comes great responsibilities all over again.

I'd become a Daemon Prince

 sudojoe wrote:
Hrm.. if I have untold powers and dominated the planet, wouldn't I also be stuck with all the work of making sure it runs well? Holy crap that's gonna be a lot of paperwork. If I trust my senchal, that means he's really ruling... blah, with great powers comes great responsibilities all over again.

Where's the fun in making it run well? Just indulge all of your whims and wring every last drop of blood, pain and pleasure out of this rock, and then set a torch to the desiccated remains. Glory be to Chaos!

 Omegus wrote:

 sudojoe wrote:
Hrm.. if I have untold powers and dominated the planet, wouldn't I also be stuck with all the work of making sure it runs well? Holy crap that's gonna be a lot of paperwork. If I trust my senchal, that means he's really ruling... blah, with great powers comes great responsibilities all over again.

Where's the fun in making it run well? Just indulge all of your whims and wring every last drop of blood, pain and pleasure out of this rock, and then set a torch to the desiccated remains. Glory be to Chaos!

My thoughts exactly...I was just gonna lash out in blind anger, most likely to the amusement of the Powers.

Daemonhood 100%, MAIM KILL BURN! Being like 4 stories tall and so much power I would love to just cut down 20 people at a time with one fel swoop of a demon axe and laugh like a maniac as the worlds armies try to put an end to me.

Demon axe?

Weapons are for lame demons, real demons use their bare hands!

Being human is awesome, on the other hand being a superhuman like a Space Marine could be fun.

Nope. I don't need super powers to feel good about myself.

So the question isn't so much "would we accept daemonhood." its."If we knew it was a possibility would we attempt to ascend?"

In which case no. You are far far far far far more likely to simply be killed while trying to attain it. Not only that but if the gods are going to give you a couple gifts on your way up you might just become a spawn instead.

If the option was "here you go, just because i like you, you get to be a daemonprince" then sure. But working toward it? no thanks, staying human is the much safer option.

Once you;ve become a DP you lose a lot of the risks associated with worshiping Chaos, I don't think the Gods give you mutations anymore (and even if you do, you can probably remove them) and the risk of being consumed by Daemons is removed as you yourself are stronger then the vast majority of Daemons out there. You gain fabulous power, immortality, and your own realm to rule, seemingly able to do as you please. There aren't many drawbacks, which is why so many are obsessed with achieving it.

 Harriticus wrote:
Once you;ve become a DP you lose a lot of the risks associated with worshiping Chaos, I don't think the Gods give you mutations anymore (and even if you do, you can probably remove them) and the risk of being consumed by Daemons is removed as you yourself are stronger then the vast majority of Daemons out there. You gain fabulous power, immortality, and your own realm to rule, seemingly able to do as you please. There aren't many drawbacks, which is why so many are obsessed with achieving it.

Sounds nice, doesn't it?

Daemonhood all the way, I know it would make me a completely different personality but just to be able to twist reality would be so much fun. The never ending stairs for those I don't like... or the never ending corridor for those who make me laugh, with a different 'partner' in every room. And of course I guess i wouldn't mind being able to execute a plan 100s of years in the making just to make my old boss fall out a window, ya know one of those butterfly flaps its wings, breeze knocks boss out of 5th floor window...

Take it. Every time.

As a human, you're going to lead a short, meaningless life, die, and then cease to exist. As a demon, you get to do whatever you want for eternity.

I'll stay human. My body is my own, it's mine, it is me. It's a fantastically complex machine that, despite it having been instrumental in ruining my intended career plan (dietry stuff into military will not go), I find I am incredibly fond of it. I would not trade it for the world.

As for the immortality bit - well, great, you're sticking two fingers up at death but knowing me I'd get so damnably bored with the whole universe at my fingertips as a playpen because I would not know what to do with myself. I'd rather stick with being mortal and dieing when I die.

I just had a thought. What if this thread is an investigation buy the Holy Inquisition to locate potential chaos worshipers? They could be watching our every move!

Really makes me wish I'd thought of that before answering YES!

In RL there is no warp, how would this work ...
Oh and the answer is yes.

Red Viper wrote:Nope. I don't need super powers to feel good about myself.

This isn't feeling good about yourself, I feel great about myself every day. This is about feeling euphorically incomprehensibly ecstatic about yourself! And the incredible achievements you can attain with such freedom!

Novelist47 wrote:In RL there is no warp, how would this work ...
Oh and the answer is yes.

But how do you know that? The warp could be watching you right now, behind this thin veil of reality

 Biaz wrote:

But how do you know that? The warp could be watching you right now, behind this thin veil of reality

My thoughts exactly...praise be to Tzeentch!

Power gives you moral authority. It allows you to defend yourself against unjust aggression and to enforce justice.

It also allows you to act in an arbitrary fashion or in a fashion for your own personal gain.

So my question is, to what extent does daemonic ascension grant you power, and to what extent does it limit your freedom of will/choice and where can I read up more on this? Fluff-wise, I mean.

Nope, never and no way.

Sell my soul to daemons for great power and lose my humanity and become a terrible monster that would kill my own loved ones just the great horror of it? Never going to happen

 Ecstasy in Service wrote:
Nope, never and no way.

Sell my soul to daemons for great power and lose my humanity and become a terrible monster that would kill my own loved ones just the great horror of it? Never going to happen

That assumes there is such a thing as a soul. Also, if you're an uber-powerful Daemon, who's going to force you to kill your loved ones? What if you protected them instead?

 TedNugent wrote:

 Ecstasy in Service wrote:
Nope, never and no way.

Sell my soul to daemons for great power and lose my humanity and become a terrible monster that would kill my own loved ones just the great horror of it? Never going to happen

That assumes there is such a thing as a soul. Also, if you're an uber-powerful Daemon, who's going to force you to kill your loved ones? What if you protected them instead?

And they don't have to know what they don't need to know; one can just assume a Human facade when interacting with them. All the world needs to know is that 'you' and the monster that rampages every now and then are two completely different things.

What if you used your Daemon powah to rebel against the Chaos Gods?

The positives are really nice but.....meh...I couldn't be bothered to work hard enough to please any of the gods enough for them to offer it to me hahaha

Let's see... if, as a normal citizen in the 40k universe, I was offered instand Daemonhood? Yes. That universe sucks too much, Ilike immortality.

If Tzeentch popped into my study and offered Daemon hood to me, at this moment, I would decline. I'm too religious to accept that. But take that away, in a 40k real life setting? Hell yeah, gimme the Prince treatment!

EDIT: Also, would depend on my patron. Tzeentch or undivided I could roll with. But with my current omniscient knowledge that I have as an observer of 40k, I would decline Nurgle or Slaanesh. Khorne too, but tempting.

To be honest, if I was sitting on my bed, reading a book, and Tzeentch appeared before me and offered me daemonhood. I would accept it in a heartbeat. Many things would happen in my rampage.

Things to do as a Daemon Prince of Tzeentch:

1. Write a long list of best selling books, most likely murder mysteries, that no matter what happens, you never seem to figure out just who did it...
2. Take over Hollywood, and then create a string of Inception sequels..., along with a ton of other cliffhanger movies, which will then earn me Oscars, Emmys, and Globes out the wazoo.
3. Take over every school in the world and flip the social ladder so that nerds are the rulers and jocks and cheerleaders are on the bottom rung.
4. Slowly change the thinking of vegans/vegetarians and the rest of the world so that their ideals are reversed...
5. After slowly confusing the people of the world with these complex plans, I will make a big red button, that when pressed, will reverse time to the point just after I ascended to Daemonhood, with no memory, to do it all over again.

All shall worship the Daemon Prince who heralds Change.

I'd become a Daemon Prince of Nurgle, probably. Nurgle is God of hopelessness and cynicism. Depressed people with no real hope or plans turn to Nurgle, because he's the God of living in the present. Nurgle is the God of #YOLO and Carpe Diem. Nurgle is the God of Death, which drives people to live their lives to the fullest.

Daemon Princedom doesn't have much affect on your personality, as far as I'm aware. The only downside is that you constantly need to worry about maintaining your God's approval. If he stops empowering your new daemonic body, you just disappear.

Being a Khorne Daemon Prince would suck, because Khorne gets angry easily. Being a Tzeentch Daemon Prince would suck, because Tzeentch is an optimist and believes all change results in good things. Change like, changing you into a wormy thing with three face that sheds hair all over the place.

With Nurgle, your position would be pretty stable. As long as you aren't doing a terrible job, he'd keep you around.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'd become a Daemon Prince of Nurgle, probably. Nurgle is God of hopelessness and cynicism. Depressed people with no real hope or plans turn to Nurgle, because he's the God of living in the present. Nurgle is the God of #YOLO and Carpe Diem. Nurgle is the God of Death, which drives people to live their lives to the fullest.

Daemon Princedom doesn't have much affect on your personality, as far as I'm aware. The only downside is that you constantly need to worry about maintaining your God's approval. If he stops empowering your new daemonic body, you just disappear.

Being a Khorne Daemon Prince would suck, because Khorne gets angry easily. Being a Tzeentch Daemon Prince would suck, because Tzeentch is an optimist and believes all change results in good things. Change like, changing you into a wormy thing with three face that sheds hair all over the place.

With Nurgle, your position would be pretty stable. As long as you aren't doing a terrible job, he'd keep you around.

What about Chaos Undivided?