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That way lies madness.

 DeathReaper wrote:
That way lies madness.

If a game as fun as this is madness http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/493369.page then bring on the straitjacket.

As long as everyone's in agreement beforehand, then it's game. That's the fun of tabletop gaming, and kind of the point of 6th edition - it's meant to be flexible.

 insaniak wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
To that I say "if you are not going to play by the rules, why even play at all?"

Pulling out the parts of the game that you don't like doesn't mean you're not playing by the rules otherwise. It's perfectly possible for someone to enjoy playing 40K and not enjoy having allies or random objectives in the game... Any of us who were playing before 6th edition have already done so in the past.

While I'm happy to use the full game (although would prefer not to use skyshields or battlements until GW fixes their rules) I can well understand why a lot of players aren't as keen on them.

I think this is part of the reason why the ONLY fortifications anyone in my group currently uses is the ADL (Gun Emplacement optional). So far the only people who insist on no Allies/Fortification/Random effects are the ones who are still trying to learn the basic 6th ed rules. And that makes perfect sense.

 Happyjew wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
To that I say "if you are not going to play by the rules, why even play at all?"

Pulling out the parts of the game that you don't like doesn't mean you're not playing by the rules otherwise. It's perfectly possible for someone to enjoy playing 40K and not enjoy having allies or random objectives in the game... Any of us who were playing before 6th edition have already done so in the past.

While I'm happy to use the full game (although would prefer not to use skyshields or battlements until GW fixes their rules) I can well understand why a lot of players aren't as keen on them.

I think this is part of the reason why the ONLY fortifications anyone in my group currently uses is the ADL (Gun Emplacement optional). So far the only people who insist on no Allies/Fortification/Random effects are the ones who are still trying to learn the basic 6th ed rules. And that makes perfect sense.

I generally don't use Allies unless my opponent does as well and/or knows in advance. I'm fine with some Fortifications, but thankfully no one I know actually uses them. As for random effects (warlord traits, mysterious terrain/objectives, etc), they tend to be useless more often than not and just slow down the game. Still fun to try out occasionally though (especially the terrain bit).

I've not tried any Fortifications yet. But we always do the Warlord and Random Terrain rolls (i mad markers to amke the game run a bit smoother) although 99% of the time it is just the woods we have on the table.

BRB, page 121: deploying within a fortification.
Any friendly unit can deploy within one of their army's fortifications, as long as it is also a building and wholly within their own deployment zone.

Pg 115: sky shield terrain type: unique.

So, RAW: you may not start the game deployed onto the landing pad as it is not a building.

Now, if you want to say it is a building so you can deploy on top of it then you will have to follow the normal building rules. Meaning only infantry and special characters may enter. This isn't overriden by the "unique" terrain type rules. Just combined with them so that your infantry and special characters have to take a difficult terrain test to enter/exit; however, vehicles can't go in.

clively wrote:
So, RAW: you may not start the game deployed onto the landing pad as it is not a building.

No, RAW you may not start the game deployed within the landing pad... which isn't an issue, since it isn't a building.

There is no problem with deploying on it, so long as it is in your deployment zone.

As above - "in" is not equal to "on"

Wheelies. That is how tanks get on the landing pad.