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So just wondering what everyones idea is on this. I got like 90 points to fill before a game this weekend for a necron army. Don't know what kind of army I will b facing. We are doin 1500 points(w a 5 point allowance cuz he went over) so 1505. I have as follows
Nemesor185
2lords w orbs 130
20 immortals 340
Triarch stalker 155
Annihilation barg 90 ddd
2spyders 100
6scarab bases 90 and these are the models I have and don't wanna buy anymore so
5destroyers 120
15 warriors 195

I have about 90 points free and I'm debating if I take another annihilation barge or remove a scarab and take a squad of 3 crypteks one despair w veil and 2 w storms. So what would people think is better to take for an all comer army? And these are the models I have and don't have time to buy an others before so this is what I have to work with. Input? Opinion?

Welcome!
I find that my Annibarge gives most armies fits. It's AV13 most of the game, puts out a fair bit of shooting. I usually have my two together, supporting each other and burning through units faster.

Also, since you are starting out... most guys won't mind you proxying a few models. Specifically in your case, scarabs. You'll want to spawn more scarabs each turn, and your may want to split the scarabs you do have into two units. I just cut some old cereal box cardboard and label it is.
Good luck, focus on learning how the units work and how they work together!

Welcome to Necrons!

Yea I was planning on just using blank bases for now for more scarabs and he seems cool w that. And I've played a lot of armies before but am new to necrons. Thanks for the advice. I know w gauss, necrons really don't have a problem w vehicles so I was thinking barg too. The veil with storm crypteks is crazy effective vs vehicles but once the vehicles are down, they are a bit too fragile for my liking.

I have the bad habit of overspending on Royal Courts... they do so much cool stuff that it's tempting to go overboard. I started running the Destroyer Lord as my HQ to break myself of that habit (with wraiths, of course). Points are so dear for necrons, that more boots on the table is better (so to speak).

That being said, I have started throwing in a Despairtek with some Deathmarks for a really nasty suicide squad. Each cryptek or court lord needs to have a specific reason for being in your list. Just adding a resorb to a unit of warriors isn't enough for a lord (though gauntlets of fire and a res orb just might make it).

The lords w orbs run w the immortals who try to get in rapid fire range after the stalker hits a unit for twin linked. I think the staff of light gives a good chance at that range for some anti meq firepower in addition to the orb. Plus being streangth 5 toughness makes it a little survivable if challenged.


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Out of curiousity, why a despairtek with the deathmarks?

I play against Necrons probably more than I play any other army, and I gotta say....I freakin hate Annihiliation Barges. They are a priority target, because they ruin my day fast if they just sit back and shoot all game. Take as many barges as you are allowed, they are nasty.

The Despairtek with the Deathmarks is just murder.
Deathmarks (and their whole unit) wound on a 2+ for the targeted unit. That includes the Despairtek's template weapon. Str 8, AP1, wounding on 2+ is awesome. In some groups, using the Veil allows you to redeploy and place a marker on a new unit.

Necrons have a fun problem: too many toys to choose from that are actually effective!

Always take as many annihilation barges as you can if you're not using the heavy slots for anything else. I've never had an opponent not get upset at how powerful they are... especially against flyers!

I thought the deathmarks only mark a unit once they deploy? And never thought of that w the despairtek. Might have to try and fit him in

They do mark a unit once. To think that you can mark a unit after using the Veil of Darkness' wording "redeploy" to set another mark out is incorrect. :3

I thought so. I think that would be overkill being able to mark a different squad every time they deepstrike.lol still though a ap1 flame template wounding on a 2 or above and ignoring cover sounds brutal. May have to try it and ill go with the second barge this game and see how it goes.

Yes, Death and Despair is a nasty combo. In under 200 points and the devastation is can put out. Use only at WAAC tournies as its not for fun games. You use that combo if you want to win. :3

On topic though, the extra Anni barge is damn useful. Its not only good at clearing horde armies, but its also our cheap AA weapon. Snap firing at those planes means you get 3 hits and its all twin linked, giving you a really good chance at knocking a 130+ point flier out of the sky for less than an upgraded Aegis Defense line with the twin linked four shots gun. :3

Xzerios wrote:They do mark a unit once. To think that you can mark a unit after using the Veil of Darkness' wording "redeploy" to set another mark out is incorrect. :3

There is a difference between being 'unclear' and 'wrong'... in this case, it is unclear in the rules. That's why I said "in some groups", and I don't recommending doing it unless you don't care about being TFG. As far as only using the unit at WAAC, it's in the rulebook. I don't begrudge Demon players Fateweaver, or Eldar players their Eldrad. For that matter, IG blobs with First Rank Fire/Second Rank Fire that get ATSSNF from a Wolfguard is pretty nasty. 40k is like an Italian menu... there is cheese everywhere you look.

Im simply stating the player ask themselves the question "Would you play against this in a friendly game?"

If the answer is no, then dont use it.
On the other hand, you most certainly may use it, but in a friendly game; your friend might not want to play against D&D.

A tournament on the other hand is different. Chances are, you have payed to participate in that tournament. Winning is the name of the game there as your going to attempt to recoup your investment, or at the very least walk away with a prize. :3

Okay, I see you've got 2 Lords. Give them both Warscythes and MSS. That's 50 points. You will not regret that decision.

Remove a Scarab base for 15 points and add that to the 40 points you have left over, and use that 55 points for a Harbinger of Destruction w/ Solar Pulse. It'll give you one more Str 8 Ap 2 shot with a 36" range, and another turn of darkness. Both of these will come in handy as I don't see any shooting with better than 24".

If you're planning on using the Triarch Stalker to TL things, I'd suggest giving those Immortals Tesla, as they will be able to snap-fire very effectively and just force your opponents to make a lot of saves. This also appears to be your only method of dealing with Terminators.

Do you know what army you're going up against?

I understand the whole friendly vs tourney unit thing. I've played in a few tournements with my eldar and see it happen all the time when facing people. Armies are different then if you just go to local shop and play. As far as the lords I'm not sure about making them close combat orientated. The problem w mss is I'm never gonna charge. So they will make me use the scarb on whatever model I'm in contact with, and THEN challenge me. If he beats down my lord before I even get a chance to strike, that's a lot of wasted points. And I'm sticking w gauss based on the fact that I have a wide range of armies that may be my enemy including eldar, guard, and tyranid. Id rather keep the ap4 just in case.


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And termies are gonna be a problem but I can tie them up w scarabs an/or send two monstrous creatures their way and should do some damage.

Well, good luck.

Thanks. Ill let ya'll know how the list works out

Just to let you know,GW FAQ'ed the MSS and challenges. The challenge happens first, and THEN you do the MSS. The only way it won't work is if your Lord isn't within 2" of the front of your unit.

Really? I thought I had the updated necron faq. Where is that in there? That may have me rethinking the mss then.

cypher1474 wrote:
Really? I thought I had the updated necron faq. Where is that in there? That may have me rethinking the mss then.

Hmm... I would have sworn it was in Version 1.1 of the Necron codex FAQ, but I'm not finding it.

Yea I couldn't find it either. As far as I know its at the same time as challenges which meaans the persons who's turn it is decides what goes first. Since I'm not charging, ever, my opponent will be able to disregard it in a chalenge and beat my lord to death w a power weapon before I get a chance to hit w the scyth. So until its usable at every point in a challenge, in my mind its not worth it. Sucks cuz the are a great piece of tech

Ended up winning against an imperial fist army. The two annihlation barges got prioritized quick and one was double tapped quick by 2 deepstriking multimelta dreds in pods. One barg down. Took one out next turn w the barg and assaulted the other w scarabs and it died 2 turns later. My barg then went to support my immortals and stalker. Was doin well until lysander and a squad of sterngaurds wrecked one squad in one turn and my stalker got taken out by a freak stray krak missle. The deathmarks deep struck and rapid fired their snipers into the sternguards unit killing all but lysander which procedded to annihilate them next turn(no suprise) the barg blocked a charge and allowed the last of the immortals to snag an objective. My 5 man warrior squad w nemsor had one(nemsor not doin much but gave the barg tank hunter which helped kill the dred and a unit of warriors counter attack which allowed them to tie up a unit of tac marines for two turns so I still think he is worth it). So two objectives to one and he had first blood and linebreaker. So 6 to 5 narrow victory. Thanks for the input everyone. Thinking ill keep the two barges