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 Frazzled wrote:
 Alfndrate wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Canada has far more guns per capita than the US but they don't have NEAR the gun violence we do.


I'm calling shenanigans on that... Do you have a link? Cause I think Frazz has more guns than Canada...


My dogs have more guns than Canada.


Is it surprising that I find more validity with your claim than I originally did with CDK's statement?

Also, I'm taking an over under on how many minutes until my hippy liberal friend from high school compares me to this nutjob for owning a gun... My bet? 25 minutes simply because of the time required for her to send tweets while at work...

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Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?

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Chicago burbs

Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/12/14 19:37:13


   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

18 elementary kids? Absolutely sick, sick act...

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New Hampster, USA

Shooter was 24 and the son of one of the elementary school teachers. The body found at his home is one of his parents.

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Beast Coast

 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?

   
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Canterbury

Seems the shooter was one "Ryan Lanza" ( sp ?), he killed his father at their home, then went to the school where his mother worked and.. well, we know the rest.

So sad watching the interviews and the pictures.

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 Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


According to his facebook page he was a fan of community theater, bands you've never heard of, mass effect and wearing large coats.

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Old Sourpuss






Lakewood, Ohio

d3m01iti0n wrote:Shooter was 24 and the son of one of the elementary school teachers. The body found at his home is one of his parents.


Okay, that makes a little more sense than it being a 20-yr old parent of a student... Well if the deceased parent wasn't the teacher, he or she probably won't be able to work at that school anymore... Way to feth up your parent's future you gakker!

Edit: Reds8n has corrected me on this...

Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


Yeah, I'm with Hordini on this... I'm thinking the number is really... really... low...
Columbine: Not NRA members
Virginia Tech: Not NRA member
Movie Theatre Guy: Not NRA member
Oregon: Idk
This nutjob: probably not...

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/12/14 19:48:05


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The Great State of Texas

 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.

That statement is demonstrably false.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/people/features/ihavearightto/four_b/casestudy_art29.shtml

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Everybody here at work is trolling his FB page. Oh, the Internet........

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 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Shooter was 24 and the son of one of the elementary school teachers. The body found at his home is one of his parents.


Wo.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Chicago burbs

 Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


I said probably. But I'm sorry I was generalizing. I'm just so pissed right now! I was already pissed with the Oregon mall shooting and now this!

   
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New Orleans, LA

 reds8n wrote:
Seems the shooter was one "Ryan Lanza" ( sp ?), he killed his father at their home, then went to the school where his mother worked and.. well, we know the rest.

So sad watching the interviews and the pictures.


As these details come out, it's getting sadder and sadder.

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Lakewood, Ohio

 CDK wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


I said probably. But I'm sorry I was generalizing. I'm just so pissed right now! I was already pissed with the Oregon mall shooting and now this!


Being pissed isn't the emotion you should be expressing at this moment. It should be one of sorrow and empathy for those that died.

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New Orleans, LA

 CDK wrote:
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I said probably. But I'm sorry I was generalizing. I'm just so pissed right now! I was already pissed with the Oregon mall shooting and now this!


Understandable, this is a pretty shocking event. But quoting Michael Moore is rarely a good idea.

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New Hampster, USA

You guys still arguing about gun control?!? STFU already. A gun is directed by a PERSON. Complain about the PERSON.

Back to the real issues.

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Canterbury

 Alfndrate wrote:


Being pissed isn't the emotion you should be expressing at this moment. It should be one of sorrow and empathy for those that died.



Which is probably best not displayed by moaning that a friend might tweet you.

"Thanks".

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Beast Coast

 CDK wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


I said probably. But I'm sorry I was generalizing. I'm just so pissed right now! I was already pissed with the Oregon mall shooting and now this!


And "probably" is wrong, because however you feel about the NRA, its members don't tend to go on rampages.


This is so messed up. I wish people would stop doing this kind of crap.

   
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New Orleans, LA

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
You guys still arguing about gun control?!? STFU already. A gun is directed by a PERSON. Complain about the PERSON.

Back to the real issues.


This is a discussion forum. You are free to log out at any time.

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The Great State of Texas

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
You guys still arguing about gun control?!? STFU already. A gun is directed by a PERSON. Complain about the PERSON.

Back to the real issues.


A prayer for the lives lost forever, the futures extinguished. A prayer for the families of those who have lost the lights of there lives.

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Lakewood, Ohio

 reds8n wrote:
 Alfndrate wrote:


Being pissed isn't the emotion you should be expressing at this moment. It should be one of sorrow and empathy for those that died.



Which is probably best not displayed by moaning that a friend might tweet you.

"Thanks".


My first red text... I'm sorry Red

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 Alfndrate wrote:
 CDK wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!



What? How many mass shooters have been NRA members?


I said probably. But I'm sorry I was generalizing. I'm just so pissed right now! I was already pissed with the Oregon mall shooting and now this!


Being pissed isn't the emotion you should be expressing at this moment. It should be one of sorrow and empathy for those that died.


I don't think it's particularly constructive to tell someone else how they should feel about something. People react to bad situations in a variety of ways. Being angry at someone who shot a bunch of innocent people is a perfectly reasonable response. So is being sad and feeling empathy. Sometimes people even feel those ways at the same time.

   
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Canterbury

4 weapons -- the 2pistols and rifle mentioned before and..? -- and a bulletproof vest.


Of course.

His younger brother is being held by authorities, best keep an open mind here until things are clearer.

Some remarkable stories of bravery from the teachers. Good for them.

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Swindon, Wiltshire, UK

Eugh, just when I thought my faith in humanity couldn't drop any lower.
   
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New Hampster, USA

 Frazzled wrote:
 d3m01iti0n wrote:
You guys still arguing about gun control?!? STFU already. A gun is directed by a PERSON. Complain about the PERSON.

Back to the real issues.


A prayer for the lives lost forever, the futures extinguished. A prayer for the families of those who have lost the lights of there lives.


Good man. Glad to see a glimmer of sympathy and intelligence around here.

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May the fallen rest calm.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910

BBC's report on the 23 victims in Henan province.

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Lakewood, Ohio

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
May the fallen rest calm.


Agreed

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 CDK wrote:
Even Michael Moore, in one of his movies, showed it. He has no love for guns but even he showed that there's more there guns in Canada but less gun violence. They just have a totally different attitude there.


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Comment found on the NRA page: "I pray that all the children killed in CT are sons and daughters of NRA members." -Karen (not mentioning last names). Wow, just wow. What have we left when we have lost all humanity?


What?! The flipping kid that did it was more likely a member!


Don't you dare bring that fat piece of gak to any argument you want to win. He's an ignorant blathering fathead who found out he could be famous by drawing attention to issues he makes up with "facts" he invented.

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 CDK wrote:
Even more reasons for my family to home school.

While part of me wants to blame guns, I actually blame the lack of mental health care in our country. Not only is there the stigma of getting help but then you have have to pay a lot of money to get it.


This. The gun violence is a symptom. The cause is mental illness. if we had better methods for people to identify and deal with mental helath issues; we would see School Shootings be reduced.

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