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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/26 23:55:21
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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I love this story.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nbc-david-gregory-gun-prop-break-law-article-1.1227470
NBC’s David Gregory is an expert on politics, but he may need to brush up on local D.C. law.
Gregory may have run afoul of local Washington police when he brandished a high-capacity (Seaward note: standard capacity, actually) gun magazine on “Meet the Press” during an interview with NRA chief Wayne LaPierre on Sunday.
“Here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets,” Gregory said, holding up the long, black casing. “Now isn’t it possible that if we got rid of these — if we replaced them and said, ‘Well you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or 10 bullets’ — isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?”
“I don’t believe that’s going to make one difference,” LaPierre responded. “There are so many different ways to evade that even if you had that (ban).”
After Gregory’s “Meet the Press” show-and-tell, some gun rights activists noted that a section in the D.C. code prohibited the show from having the magazine in its Washington studio.
“No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm,” it reportedly says.
And a spokesman for the Washington Metropolitan Police Department confirmed to Politico that Gregory’s demonstration might have broken a local law. On Wednesday, the police also said that NBC News was aware that its prop was not lawful.
“NBC contacted (the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department) inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment,” police spokeswoman Gwendolyn Crump told Politico in an email. “NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazine is not permissible and their request was denied.”
The D.C. police did not immediately respond to a request for more information. A spokeswoman for NBC News declined to comment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:03:29
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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While it's the media, so they'll just get a little fine or something, I wish they'd put someone in jail for this to tell the media to shut the hell up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:04:00
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Subject: "DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge"
Story: Nothing about an investigation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:06:08
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Ouze wrote:Subject: " DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge"
Story: Nothing about an investigation
Sorry, I had a bunch of different articles to choose from. I'll go with HuffPo's:
David Gregory is being investigated by police over the gun magazine that he showed on Sunday's "Meet the Press."
Gregory held up what appeared to be a 30-round gun magazine during his contentious interview with the NRA's Wayne LaPierre. He was asking LaPierre whether fewer victims would have died in the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School if the gunman had not had access to so many bullets.
Araz Alali, police officer and spokesman, confirmed to Politico on Tuesday that the Metropolitan Police Department is looking into “The 'Meet the Press,' David Gregory incident.” "There are D.C. code violations, D.C. code restrictions on guns, ammunition. We are investigating this matter. Beyond the scope of that, I can’t comment any further," he said.
The code in question says, “No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm," and has been mentioned by numerous conservatives making the argument against Gregory.
Let me know if they used the word 'investigation' enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:06:33
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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BlueDagger wrote:While it's the media, so they'll just get a little fine or something, I wish they'd put someone in jail for this to tell the media to shut the hell up.
What?
That's a horrible reason for the police to do such a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:07:10
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Kanluwen wrote:
What?
That's a horrible reason for the police to do such a thing.
True.
The fact that it's a felony, if memory serves, is a much better one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:08:04
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Seaward wrote:Let me know if they used the word 'investigation' enough.
Hey, if you pick a subject and then post a story omitting the correct information, don't point a finger at the one who called you on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:09:08
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Seaward wrote: Kanluwen wrote:
What?
That's a horrible reason for the police to do such a thing.
True.
The fact that it's a felony, if memory serves, is a much better one.
The fact is that this will probably be, as mentioned, a fined offense rather than a jail offense simply because there was no intent to use, sell, or give away the "magazine" in question and it is likely that David Gregory has no history with violent crimes etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:10:15
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I think they definitely should prosecute; in that the the producers at least clearly knew they were breaking the law beforehand and chose to do so anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:12:07
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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A potential fly in the ointment is that the ATF apparently did say it was cool, but I don't believe that's ATF's call in this circumstance, and they were contacted only after DC police said no, absolutely not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 00:13:45
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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The craziest thing about it is that there wasn't some sort of spree-shooting right in the studio as soon as he brandished it. The current media coverage seems to indicate that's the only possible outcome of these devices.
Maybe if he had pulled out a copy of Counterstrike or Borderlands or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 04:15:16
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Seaward wrote:A potential fly in the ointment is that the ATF apparently did say it was cool, but I don't believe that's ATF's call in this circumstance, and they were contacted only after DC police said no, absolutely not.
erm... remember, DC is a federal something... (federal enclave? it ain't a state, that's for sure).
So, the ATF may have jurisdiction.
While I'd enjoy a good schadenfreude... this is much ado about nuthin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 05:48:09
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 05:50:03
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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whembly wrote: Seaward wrote:A potential fly in the ointment is that the ATF apparently did say it was cool, but I don't believe that's ATF's call in this circumstance, and they were contacted only after DC police said no, absolutely not.
erm... remember, DC is a federal something... (federal enclave? it ain't a state, that's for sure).
So, the ATF may have jurisdiction.
While I'd enjoy a good schadenfreude... this is much ado about nuthin.
It's a Federal District. Sometimes known as the "District of Columbia" and the DC police have pretty obvious jurisdiction there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 05:50:19
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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d-usa wrote:The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
Well it worked, didn't it? That magazine didn't gun him down on live tv.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 05:50:38
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Okay... I LOL'ed at this... but, over reaction maybe?
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/if-david-gregory-were-not-david-gregory/
Now that the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department is on record that it told NBC News not to use the high capacity magazine in its segment with Wayne LaPierre, the big media is paying attention and taking this seriously.
TMZ is running interference claiming that NBC News was told by ATF that the D.C. Police said it was okay, but the D.C. Police say they were asked directly by NBC News for permission and that permission was denied.
The NY Times actually has a sensible and informative story on it:
"In Washington, people who are caught in possession of the type of magazine that Mr. Gregory had can face up to a year in prison, said David Benowitz, a criminal defense lawyer.
“You would be arrested; you would most likely be charged with possession of an illegal magazine,” Mr. Benowitz said, adding that “depending on what time you were arrested, you would most likely be held overnight.”
Prosecutors and defense lawyers often work out a plea agreement in which defendants receive probation and have a misdemeanor charge on their criminal record, Mr. Benowitz said. If defendants have a prior criminal record or lose a jury trial, they could face a stiffer sentence.
Mr. Benowitz said the accusation from the police that NBC had asked for permission and then went ahead with showing the magazine “didn’t help Gregory’s case.”
Yeah, asking for permission is pretty damning when you ignore what you are told directly from the law enforcement authority and do it anyway.
Unfortunately, the otherwise great Greta has missed the point on this, Investigating NBC’s David Gregory? Really? Can we be any sillier?
We have so many serious issues of violence in this country — and even here in DC on our dangerous streets — that it is bizarre to me that anyone would spend (waste) 5 minutes investigating NBC’s David Gregory for this.
One of the problems with the ever expanding gun laws advocated by Gregory and others is that otherwise law-abiding citizens get caught up inadvertently violating the law, like this soldier on leave from Afghanistan, while criminals do what they please and powerful people don’t get prosecuted.
The guns laws, as presently constituted and as proposed, turn us into a nation of men not of laws.
What Greta doesn’t understand is that David Gregory isn’t being investigated because he’s David Gregory; if he were anyone else, he’d already be in jail.
Still...
Can we have some common sense here?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 07:05:25
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Hallowed Canoness
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"Comments on how we need stricter gun laws by breaking existing local laws"
Makes sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 09:30:00
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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No. If Gregory wants to not be subject to this law, he should be forced to argue why an otherwise law-abiding citizen should not be punished for possessing a high-capacity magazine. Granting hypocrites exemptions to the laws they advocate removes any incentive for them to not support bad laws.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 13:39:35
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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d-usa wrote:The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
Well done.
I would definitely like to see this guy prosecuted because I'm pretty damn tired of so-called elites skating on things that would land us in prison. If I did what Piers Morgan did (and so on, and so forth) I'd be in the pokey for years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 13:58:06
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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d-usa wrote:The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
See, I took it as prima facie evidence that David Gregory is an unstable man about to go on a shooting spree. That's what I've been told for a couple weeks now, that only unstable individuals who are probably planning murder need a 30-round AR mag.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 14:36:25
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Old Sourpuss
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Look at the malice in his eyes!
Or those are his, "come hither" eyes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 15:38:01
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Ouze wrote: d-usa wrote:The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
Well done.
I would definitely like to see this guy prosecuted because I'm pretty damn tired of so-called elites skating on things that would land us in prison. If I did what Piers Morgan did (and so on, and so forth) I'd be in the pokey for years.
Okay... I see ya'lls point here.
"Gun control for thee, but not for me"!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 17:31:16
Subject: DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Hallowed Canoness
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whembly wrote: Ouze wrote: d-usa wrote:The editors were probably packing heat while the magazine was in the building to keep it from killing people. Remember, the only thing that stops guns are more guns.
Well done.
I would definitely like to see this guy prosecuted because I'm pretty damn tired of so-called elites skating on things that would land us in prison. If I did what Piers Morgan did (and so on, and so forth) I'd be in the pokey for years.
Okay... I see ya'lls point here.
"Gun control for thee, but not for me"!
Which pretty much sums up the democrat's position on the subject.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 18:53:47
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 18:54:50
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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daedalus wrote:So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
We're a fat, lazy nation and those magazines can get heavy...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 18:55:50
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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daedalus wrote:So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
I honestly don't believe most anti-gunners are aware that the concept of multiple mags exists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 18:58:22
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Seaward wrote: daedalus wrote:So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
I honestly don't believe most anti-gunners are aware that the concept of multiple mags exists.
All new guns are to be sold with a welded mag-well with no more than 10 rounds of ammunition pre-loaded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 19:49:04
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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Seaward wrote: daedalus wrote:So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
I honestly don't believe most anti-gunners are aware that the concept of multiple mags exists.
Didn't the Virginia Tech shooter have a backpack full of magazines?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 20:14:14
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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KalashnikovMarine wrote: Seaward wrote: daedalus wrote:So explain to me why a smaller magazine would result in less shootings? I mean, wouldn't that just result in someone carrying MORE magazines on their person?
I honestly don't believe most anti-gunners are aware that the concept of multiple mags exists.
Didn't the Virginia Tech shooter have a backpack full of magazines?
Idk, but he did have at least 3 magazines for the P22 (1 with the gun and 2 off eBay) and at least 2 for the Glock 19.
But hey, those were 10 round magazines and perfectly legal...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/27 20:49:27
Subject: Re:DC Police Investigating David Gregory Over Firearm-Related Charge
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Stolen from my twitter feed.
"“David Gregory can have and do illegal stuff because journalism. And because free speech. Also, because shut up.”
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