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Was that a printing press joke to go along with your First Amendment riffing.
If so, I approve.
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d-usa wrote: I'm surprised we even have an army. Nationalized soldiers seems like socialism to me. Why don't we let the free market reign and switch to pure mercenaries and privateers?
No, no. Militias raised in time of need! It gives us a reason to have our AR-15s.
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Alex Jones is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging radio ratings.
Piers Morgan is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging TV ratings.
Is there a connection?
I wouldn't watch that 7 minutes. Thats seven minutes of your life you'll never get back.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Didn't mention juice boxes, just how the banks are trying to take our guns to implement the New World Order and that anti-depressants are suicide pills that are going to kill everybody.
Didn't go on about how the Olympic logo spells "Zion" and we'll see a false flag alien invasion and then Nasa will use project Blue Beam technology to usher in a fake messiah/anti-christ and usher us all into.. oh.. hang on
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
reds8n wrote: Didn't go on about how the Olympic logo spells "Zion" and we'll see a false flag alien invasion and then Nasa will use project Blue Beam technology to usher in a fake messiah/anti-christ and usher us all into.. oh.. hang on
I'm concerned. You know way too much about that guy...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Alex Jones (b. 1974) is a radio personality who never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like. He is one of the very few people to make Glenn Beck look sane and rational in comparison. And that is all you really need to know about him.
His radio program is typified by frequent use of the Imperial March from Star Wars while he rants about the impending roundup and execution of Americans by the New World Order (NWO) in the next week or two. He has been predicting this for well over a decade now. We're still waiting. He largely discusses the Illuminati and how they control the world.
I've known about him for a good few years. When X-Files/UFOs etc etc were all plat-de-jour his name cropped up and I've kept an amused/bemused eye on him occasionally ever since.
he got involved -- of course ! -- when poor old Rik Clay hit the conspiracy hall of fame, which I heard about via the always cool Akira the Don, specifically his ZION 2012: THE APOCALYMPICS release which is pretty much the best album released in 2012.
Jon Ronson did a pretty good piece on him a few years back
All that said... stopped clock twice a day and all that.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I think that would actually make a pretty quick and easy universal background check.
"Do you believe that the international banks control a New World Order and want to take away your guns and feed you anti-depressants so that you will kill yourself?"
Of course!
"Sorry, no guns for you. Better give us the ones you already have..."
Frazzled wrote: Alex Jones is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging radio ratings.
Piers Morgan is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging TV ratings.
Is there a connection?
I wouldn't watch that 7 minutes. Thats seven minutes of your life you'll never get back.
It's funny how Piers had to get Jones on his show to lend him (Piers) some credibility. Still, since Piers went on to pick and choose his crime stats, I thought I'd link a better, rational video that won't address every aspect of the issue but it won't insult your intelligence either.
Frazzled wrote: Alex Jones is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging radio ratings.
Piers Morgan is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging TV ratings.
Is there a connection?
I wouldn't watch that 7 minutes. Thats seven minutes of your life you'll never get back.
It's funny how Piers had to get Jones on his show to lend him (Piers) some credibility. Still, since Piers went on to pick and choose his crime stats, I thought I'd link a better, rational video that won't address every aspect of the issue but it won't insult your intelligence either.
That's a killer and on target vid
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
Breotan wrote: It's funny how Piers had to get Jones on his show to lend him (Piers) some credibility.
You know you've failed in life when you have to get Alex Jones to give you some credibility.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Defineitly failed. The Post is reporting moving him to the 10.00PM slot.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: Alex Jones is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging radio ratings.
Piers Morgan is a blowhard idiot looking for fireworks to drum up his sagging TV ratings.
Is there a connection?
I wouldn't watch that 7 minutes. Thats seven minutes of your life you'll never get back.
It's funny how Piers had to get Jones on his show to lend him (Piers) some credibility. Still, since Piers went on to pick and choose his crime stats, I thought I'd link a better, rational video that won't address every aspect of the issue but it won't insult your intelligence either.
He sucks at researching.
The definition of violent crime in the US is very different to the one in England
I wonder how high the violent crime stats would be in the US if you also count all the little nits that they count in the UK, and vice versa, how low the stats would be there if they only counted manslaughter, rape, muggings and assaults. Way to bend the facts, poster of that vid! You just did the exact same thing as those who you are criticizing!
I do however partly agree with him on what he said about reducing violent crime by fighting poverty and educating people.
MrMerlin wrote: He sucks at researching.
The definition of violent crime in the US is very different to the one in England
I wonder how high the violent crime stats would be in the US if you also count all the little nits that they count in the UK, and vice versa, how low the stats would be there if they only counted manslaughter, rape, muggings and assaults. Way to bend the facts, poster of that vid! You just did the exact same thing as those who you are criticizing!
Are you sure he did that? It seems to me that he simply went to the Home Office web site and compared stats listed. Perhaps he simply assumed (a mistake that many people involed in this debate make) that violent crime meant the same thing in both countries? I suppose you can break down the definition of violent crime into specifics but the points of where violent crimes are predominate and that a simple ban on guns won't solve those problems as claimed are both valid.
MrMerlin wrote: He sucks at researching.
The definition of violent crime in the US is very different to the one in England
I wonder how high the violent crime stats would be in the US if you also count all the little nits that they count in the UK, and vice versa, how low the stats would be there if they only counted manslaughter, rape, muggings and assaults. Way to bend the facts, poster of that vid! You just did the exact same thing as those who you are criticizing!
Are you sure he did that? It seems to me that he simply went to the Home Office web site and compared stats listed. Perhaps he simply assumed (a mistake that many people involed in this debate make) that violent crime meant the same thing in both countries? I suppose you can break down the definition of violent crime into specifics but the points of where violent crimes are predominate and that a simple ban on guns won't solve those problems as claimed are both valid.
Well, since he compared the data, it was a crucial mistake to be ignorant of the fact that the UK have nearly 40 offences listed as violent crime and the US only has a handful. Also, I bet that those offences listed by the US are also the ones that predominantley happen in urban areas in britain. I mean, since the englishmen also count endangering people at sea as a violent crime, that and many other factors take the weight off violent crime off british cities.
Sure, a simple ban of all guns wouldn't stop violent crime, and it'd really help to invest more money in education, etc.... but denying douchebags and irresponsible people access to guns by dong better background checks would also help lower the amount of people shot
MrMerlin wrote: ...but denying douchebags and irresponsible people access to guns by dong better background checks would also help lower the amount of people shot
Exactly what sort of "better" background check would have stopped the shooting at Sandy Hook?
MrMerlin wrote: ...but denying douchebags and irresponsible people access to guns by dong better background checks would also help lower the amount of people shot
Exactly what sort of "better" background check would have stopped the shooting at Sandy Hook?
"Are you out of your fething mind? Y N"
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
MrMerlin wrote: ...but denying douchebags and irresponsible people access to guns by dong better background checks would also help lower the amount of people shot
Exactly what sort of "better" background check would have stopped the shooting at Sandy Hook?
Had there been better background checks, his mother would probably not have gotten any guns in the first place, becuase apparently she wasn't very responsible (they were just lying around, and she overlooked the fact that her son was a psyho.) In any European country, that guy would not have gotten his hands on anything with a trigger because of the background checks. They do mental tests, train you to handle the guns responsibly, require you to lock them away when you're not using them....
but school shootings aren't even the real problem when you look at the stats... there are like 11.500 gun murders in the US every year, and only a fraction of those are school shootings and such.
Sure, background checks won't stop every crime, but it's apparent that when the fethheads don't have access to guns, they can't shoot around (they will probably resort to another way of inflicting damage, like knifes or such, but it takes a lot more to kill a man with a knife than with a gun; hell, you just have to aim properly and pull the trigger and boom, he's dead.) So, if you take away the guns from those who'd use them for the wrong purposes, you will have considerably less homicide deaths.
So why is it that other countries with high gun ownership have much lower murder rates than the US?
(Hint: it's because of cultural problems in the US, not the presence of guns.)
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Peregrine wrote: So why is it that other countries with high gun ownership have much lower murder rates than the US?
(Hint: it's because of cultural problems in the US, not the presence of guns.)
It's partly that, and the fact that they don't distribute guns to those who'd use them to kill people ( background checks). btw what countries are you talking about?
MrMerlin wrote: It's partly that, and the fact that they don't distribute guns to those who'd use them to kill people ( background checks). btw what countries are you talking about?
Let's just go with Switzerland, the country where every household has a military rifle that US gun owners can only dream of ever getting to touch, and yet somehow the murder rate is lower than in the US and there aren't daily mass shootings.
Also, background checks aren't magical "know everything there is to know about this person" spells. A background check isn't going to find a problem if there's no record of it (someone who has mental problems but has never been diagnosed with anything), or if the problem only develops later after the person has passed the background check (for example, someone shooting their cheating spouse). Nor do they prevent someone from getting a gun from someone who did pass the background check, whether by stealing it (like in the recent shooting), or by getting someone with a clean record to pass the check and give it to them.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
MrMerlin wrote: It's partly that, and the fact that they don't distribute guns to those who'd use them to kill people ( background checks). btw what countries are you talking about?
Let's just go with Switzerland, the country where every household has a military rifle that US gun owners can only dream of ever getting to touch, and yet somehow the murder rate is lower than in the US and there aren't daily mass shootings.
Also, background checks aren't magical "know everything there is to know about this person" spells. A background check isn't going to find a problem if there's no record of it (someone who has mental problems but has never been diagnosed with anything), or if the problem only develops later after the person has passed the background check (for example, someone shooting their cheating spouse). Nor do they prevent someone from getting a gun from someone who did pass the background check, whether by stealing it (like in the recent shooting), or by getting someone with a clean record to pass the check and give it to them.
In Switzerland they probably don't have mass shootings because there are only a few million swiss people, and you have 300.000.000 in the US.
Also, the funny thing is, background checks actually work like that. In Germany for example, they do a number of tests to determine wheter you're mentally fit to have a gun (if you're the kind who might shoot his cheating spouse, sorry, no gun for you), they teach you how to use it responsiveley, they require you to keep it in a locked safe (exept when you're using it for self defense, but the mother of that shooter probably wasn't) Also, it's a serious offence to let anyone without a gun owners license use your guns, so nobody would go get one for a school shooter, becuase they'd end up in jail for a loooong time... So see? Better regulation = less people shot dead
Breotan wrote: Still, since Piers went on to pick and choose his crime stats, I thought I'd link a better, rational video that won't address every aspect of the issue but it won't insult your intelligence either.
That video insulted my intelligence by ignoring the variance in how violent crime is defined, which is a common objection and one which any considered speaker should address.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
