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I have the option in my army to swap out mortar teams for infantry flamethrowers - ROF 2 one use things. The question I have is - what base size do flamethrowers use? Are they standard rifle group size with one or two flamethrower models on and the balance standard infantry, or are they small base 2-3 man things?

What nationality? What list?

They are typically standard rifle-team bases that mount 1-2 flamethrower models mixed-in with 2-3 rifleman figs depending on your force nationality.

usually the option will show a number of figures equal to the dudes on the bases.

If you still arn't sure, just use the same base size as the team it is replacing. the number of guys really isn't important. just make it easily identifiable as a Flamethrower.

AndrasOtto wrote:
What nationality? What list?

Italian. Option to replace brixia mortars (3 men on medium base) or pioneer rifle groups (4-5 on medium base) with flamethrowers.

Medium base teams then.

Thanks to everyone!

Personally I have mine on small bases as thats what BF supplied me when I bought them. The rules don't explicitly state what size of base that they are replaced with and small infantry teams are typically mounted on a small base.

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter.

What country has infantry teams on small bases? Command teams, spotters, snipers and light mortars are on small bases. Infantry teams that are to be replaced with Flame Throwers are all on medium bases. The only problem with Flame throwers is the stand they are a one shot weapon and the stand is removed after use.

Palindrome wrote:
Personally I have mine on small bases as thats what BF supplied me when I bought them. The rules don't explicitly state what size of base that they are replaced with and small infantry teams are typically mounted on a small base.

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter.

Karnophage wrote:
Command teams, spotters, snipers and light mortars are on small bases. Infantry teams that are to be replaced with Flame Throwers are all on medium bases]

The team that they replace doesn't matter as they are a new team in their own right. Infantry teams with support weapons who are not man packed gun teams are almost always on a small base (AT rifles, light mortars, PIATs etc), the only exception that I can think of are Panzershrek teams and they have a base clearly showing 4 men on the force selection diagram.

As I said the actual base size is not explicity stated, flamethrower teams fit the criteria for a small base (they tended to be 2 men strong in the real world and teams with 1-3 men get a small base according to the rulebook) and BF included small bases in pioneer blister packs whos only realistic function is to mount the flame thrower team(s). If the force selection diagram explicitly shows 4 figures for the flamethrower team then its a medium base, otherwise its a small.

Actually I think the small base is for the Goliath. It is only the original mid-war blister has the extra small base. The rest of the Pioneer platoons blisters don't have the extra base. I still don't see a Pioneer Platoon that actually uses a small base for anything other then a command stand.

The FInnish pioneer blister has extra small bases, mine came with 3. 1 for the command team and 2 for the flamethrowers.

Also according to the rules flamethrowers will have a small base by virtue of being a 2 man team. I certainly can't find anything that suggests that they should be on a medium base.

All I can say it was a mistake in packaging. That being said all the list just say you can replace up to 2 Rifle teams with Flame throwers before the start of the game. If you really want to replace rifle teams with Flame throwers on small bases I don't see any reason to say you can't.

My German pioneers came with small bases to take a 2-man flamethrower team which replaced a 4-5 man rifle/mg team from the vanilla platoon.

I have Italian flamethrowers in my Demolisher platoon and I have them mounted on Medium bases with a 4-man stand-count on the base. It includes the flamethrower fig plus the riflemen.

A look at the FoW Demolisher platoon on their site shows how they're mounted.

Palindrome wrote:

Karnophage wrote:
Command teams, spotters, snipers and light mortars are on small bases. Infantry teams that are to be replaced with Flame Throwers are all on medium bases]

The team that they replace doesn't matter as they are a new team in their own right. Infantry teams with support weapons who are not man packed gun teams are almost always on a small base (AT rifles, light mortars, PIATs etc), the only exception that I can think of are Panzershrek teams and they have a base clearly showing 4 men on the force selection diagram.

As I said the actual base size is not explicity stated, flamethrower teams fit the criteria for a small base (they tended to be 2 men strong in the real world and teams with 1-3 men get a small base according to the rulebook) and BF included small bases in pioneer blister packs whos only realistic function is to mount the flame thrower team(s). If the force selection diagram explicitly shows 4 figures for the flamethrower team then its a medium base, otherwise its a small.

I checked the battlefront website, and Italian solothurn at rifles (3men) and brixia light mortars (3 men) and flamethrowers (4 men) are all mounted on medium bases.
I think base size does matter a little bit, especially if you have very large numbers of troops, as they can get in each others way

Having a larger base is a disadvantage. It is perfectly legal to increase the base size of any team in FoW.

Pak 40s are a good example. They can be based on medium or large bases.