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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 03:41:51
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Played a game tonight, and had a guy, local guy, known as throatbanger, you can see our battles in some of my battle reports.
He did a scream jump/slash attack starting out of difficult terrain, moved over a group that was "inside a ruin" (difficult) , then bent the tape measure and moved out of the ruins and around over top of another unit hitting them also.
For your viewing pleasure.
SCREAMERS ------------------------(RUINS START)____NIDS_____________(RUINS END)
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______________________________________________________________ NIDS
He was within the 24" I was just wondering if there was any restriction on how he did this.
As always.
Thanks again for any help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 03:53:21
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Sounds right, as there is nothing preventing a zigzag movement. The rule also says it can hit multiple unengaged units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 04:06:20
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Sounds good I didn't think I could find anything wrong! Just trying to make sure I know my rules for an upcoming astronomi-con!
Thanks for the quick responses all around!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 04:10:09
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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TheSwarmLives wrote:Sounds good I didn't think I could find anything wrong! Just trying to make sure I know my rules for an upcoming astronomi-con!
Thanks for the quick responses all around!
No worries, I've looked for ways to debunk it myself. Including I thought for some unknown reason moving was defined by a straight line. ( I was wrong)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 04:29:59
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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This is illegal, you can only ever hit one enemy unit with a slash attack:
"If a unit of Screamers moves over one or more unengaged enemy units with its Turbo-boost movement, choose one of those units - it suffers..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 04:31:39
Subject: Re:Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Um movement he can do what he wants, but he only gets to do hits to ONE of the units he passes over. If he passes over multiple units he can choose which one, but he can still only hit one unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 04:31:52
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Drunkspleen wrote:This is illegal, you can only ever hit one enemy unit with a slash attack:
"If a unit of Screamers moves over one or more unengaged enemy units with its Turbo-boost movement, choose one of those units - it suffers..."
Oh how quickly I tend to skim over things.
Literacy, it's always tech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 05:43:08
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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You have to Slash Attack with the Turbo-boost which happens in the shooting phase....does Turbo-boost have to be in a straight line? I have not used my Screamers yet, so I'm not ultra versed in that tactic yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 05:51:43
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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No it does not.
However, Dark Eldar Reaver Jetbikes do have a specific restriction for their Bladevane attacks, that you have to draw a line between the start and end points of their move, and you can only hit a unit along that line.
Screamers have no such restriction, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 06:11:29
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How do wounds work out if the unit of screamers ends up behind a wall and has no LOS.
Or in this case where they went over a unit in cover. Would the 5plus cover still work ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 10:35:11
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech
technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 13:41:01
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech
technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all.
While that's true, it's also not a shooting attack.
As for being obscured by a piece of terrain, I don't think you'll get that one. Unless it's area terrain, KFF,etc.
It's not a shooting attack and you don't draw LOS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 14:43:53
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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The Hive Mind
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech
technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all.
While that's true, it's also not a shooting attack.
As for being obscured by a piece of terrain, I don't think you'll get that one. Unless it's area terrain, KFF,etc.
It's not a shooting attack and you don't draw LOS
You should read the FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 15:51:15
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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rigeld2 wrote:jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech
technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all.
While that's true, it's also not a shooting attack.
As for being obscured by a piece of terrain, I don't think you'll get that one. Unless it's area terrain, KFF,etc.
It's not a shooting attack and you don't draw LOS
You should read the FAQ.
Just looked through the Chaos Daemons FAQ and saw nothing.
Therefore reading the FAQ and still believing the same as before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 16:09:13
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Morphing Obliterator
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech
technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all.
While that's true, it's also not a shooting attack.
As for being obscured by a piece of terrain, I don't think you'll get that one. Unless it's area terrain, KFF,etc.
It's not a shooting attack and you don't draw LOS
This is exactly the same situation that happens with vector strike and from many threads around YMDC the general consensus is that you get cover save unless it is stated that the attack ignores cover, and that the LoS is drawn from the final position of the model causing the wound
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 18:05:47
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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Lord Yayula wrote:jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover saves unless you are told you dont get them, for example close combat. Ref Mawloc TftD, Spirit Leech technically p16 would say no to removing models out of LOS, as if you dont use the shooting rules you have no ability to remove ANY models at all. While that's true, it's also not a shooting attack. As for being obscured by a piece of terrain, I don't think you'll get that one. Unless it's area terrain, KFF,etc. It's not a shooting attack and you don't draw LOS This is exactly the same situation that happens with vector strike and from many threads around YMDC the general consensus is that you get cover save unless it is stated that the attack ignores cover, and that the LoS is drawn from the final position of the model causing the wound So can a Screamer Slash Attack a zooming flyer/swooping FMC?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/04 18:10:36
Subject: Screamers Slash Attacks.
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The Hive Mind
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No, Vector Strike has specific permission.
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