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Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland

If asked to point out the "poster boy" or "default" or "mascot" faction of Warhammer 40,000 - even Games Workshop in general - the majority of people would undeniably say "Space Marines", and they wouldn't be wrong. If, then, a faction is capable of having a 'mascot' or 'poster boy', what would this be to the Space Marines? Easy. Their simplest and most common unit - Tactical Marines. So, it would not be too far off to say that the Tactical Marine set is 40k at its purest. It is the standard, the base, by which all expectations can be measured.

Oh, how amusing, then, the impressions it gives.

You see, the set is incomplete. The Codex gives Tactical Marines options not present in the set, such as the man-portable lascannon (and a surprising number of other things, like a Power Fist for the Sergeant). The only way to acquire such a weapon is to buy a box of Devastators, which costs about the same amount of money as the Tactical Marine box but with only five models present. Granted, they have a lot of weapons with them, but... no. Furthermore, they only have two lascannons, as far as I am aware. Buying Devastators to get the lascannons for Tactical Marines is absurd. A friend of mine plays Space Marines, and he wishes to outfit his Tactical squads with lascannoneers. I play Chaos Marines, and I wish the same. We aren't buying Devastators, though. There are other, less expensive options - a metal Marine with a Lascannon, or the Iron Warriors upgrade kit (which has skull-covered lascannons, mind) - but they are, again, absurd.

Say what you will about using third parties to save money, but does anyone know of a third party who makes a weapon suitable to represent a man-portable lascannon?

Sieg Zeon!

Selling TGG2! 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

OR, you go toa 3rd party bitz retailer, or a discount sale... I just picked up two boxes of devastators at 40% off.

The only other thing I can recommend in lieu of straight up man portable LC's, is either a multilayer or the las cannon from the IG sentinel set.... It's a bit of work, but it'd work as an under slung weapon. Another option, take the missile launcher, stick a magnet in it, and create an extra magnetic tube that you slide down the bore to covert it into a las cannon one moment, and back to launcher in the next.... And honestly, the best kit for parts is the csm line marine kit. It goes the farthest in satisfying weapon options from the kit.... Anyway...

Other options include being funny. Just use IG lasguns!

Edit: IPads suck. Never buy one. The autocorrect is worthless, and trying to cancel a correction aparantly makes you post your comment before you are finished.

If you are lucky on eBay, you might score las cannons on the cheap...even OOP metal las cannon troopers. Then again, depending o the look you are going for, you could just as well go with an IG heavy weapon squad. Those canons are big, but if you are good with a knife, you should be able to. Cut the, to size. Then you also get bolters and auto cannons (it...looks....las-cannonish.... ) along with mortars and missile launchers. Tall price ,sure, but yo should be. Able to pawn off the kneeling guardsmen for a decent price.

You could also try posting a wanted ad on here. Ii mean, I might be willing to part with 4 LC's assuming I still have a 4th cannon kicking around to finish my multiple....

And let's be honest. GW will never put everything into one kit. It would kill their sales outright. It's how they get you to buy more, by making kits I complete, and needing to mix them with other kits

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15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
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Yes, he's asking about that. What 3rd party bitz source would you recommend?

EDIT: I looked around and couldn't find any.

ebay for the lascannon bitz from the devastator box is probably the best bet.

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Tunneling Trygon






Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland

I've looked at bitz sources! They tend to be out of stock. :c I was hoping that there might be a 3rd party who makes something similar to lascannons (I have seen plenty of other weapons, ranging from plasma guns to thunder hammers).

I really don't want to be buying whole sets of something neither I nor anyone I know will ever use (Sentinels). Also, CSMs don't come with lascannons, either! They do have mostly everything else, though, especially where the Aspiring Champion is concerned. It's less outrageous for the CSM box to be missing options, seeing as it comes with what seems like an infinite number of Chaos-themed bits and other assorted options, like head variants.

It's kind of like the sprue is meant to say "We're sorry, we know they aren't terribly original and look like spiky Marines, here's a ton of Chaos options to make it up to you."

EDIT: Four lascannons would be good. That'd be totally viable if you weren't in Canada with me in Ireland, making postage probably cost about as much as a Devastator box, anyway.

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Sieg Zeon!

Selling TGG2! 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

Explicitly 3rd party count as las cannon?...good luck. It's not that common. You will find 50 vendors for razorbacks and land raider options........ Not so for the infantry lasers.

You're just as well off using neuron immortals' weapons for a lascann conversin.

Might be worth keeping tabs on dream forge games over the next months, they might produce a heavy weapon squad that might. Price more favorably than GW's


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Actually, I ship via letter mail if it's bits, and nobody has ever complained of damage to me. Shipping'd be about.... What, $2? Maybe $5 for the secure packing.... Just let me know

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15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland

Oh, that's cool! How much would you want for the LCs themselves/total? Also, I assume they're not going anywhere, so would be okay if I PM you when ready to do stuff (if we're doing this, that is)?

Sieg Zeon!

Selling TGG2! 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

Yup, that's fine. Keep your options open though, even doing a drill-slot of missile launchers and sticking tubes in can get you lascannons. Not great ones, but they will stick to WYSIWYG. I have to double check that I have a 4th LC to finish my squad of 4. If I don't, then I'm down to 3 available LC's

15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
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Focused Fire Warrior






Lasguns are pretty much defined by the cut of their barrel
i think if you sliced the tip of these slightly maybe shorten them slightly you could pass them off as lascannons, i imagine the backpacks will shift easiy on ebay too

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Here you go http://www.letthedicedecide.co.uk/space-marine-devastator-lascannon-6908-p.asp that should help if you don't get them all.

I have noticed GW rarely give all the options in a single box, for space marines you typically would have to buy the tactical, devastator and assault box to get all the options, annoying for us good business for them.

Other options are ebay or bitz sites, I recently used the above site for a HB scout to go with my snipers and reguly use ebay bitz stores to build my Librarians.

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Scouting Shade




third party wise you get 6 in the corporation heavy weapon teams for £17.50 and you could build 12, as there's 6 autocannons as well AFAIK

"We have more soldiers than you have bullets." The Imperial Guard  
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Don't buy the box and build the box then buy the next box!

Plan what your army will be, buy boxes, and mix bitz accordingly. You can buy the Devs box, but then use all the MLs from the Tac boxes as your actual Dev team, and use the Dev weapons spread across other squads.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

I'm just trying to think how else to get lascannons..

If you are lucky, and have telescoping gauges of plasticard tubing, you can get the lascannon barell easilly. IF you have a spring (or Lego tubing) that fits correctly over the smaller barrell, you also have your heatsink for the weapon. The rest is just a plasticard box, and you can cheat by using the bottom half of the bolter for the trigger and balance grips....... hmmmmm......

15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
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Tunneling Trygon






Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland

JohnnyHell wrote:
Don't buy the box and build the box then buy the next box!

Plan what your army will be, buy boxes, and mix bitz accordingly. You can buy the Devs box, but then use all the MLs from the Tac boxes as your actual Dev team, and use the Dev weapons spread across other squads.


^ Friend does this. Even with planning, the Devs are still silly. I want a lascannon for one of my Chaos Marine squads (yes, I know), who I've simply been 'proxying' a pair of CSM legs on a base as until I can get a heavy weapon for my heavy weapons guy. He wants to put lascannons on all of his Tactical Marine squads, of which there are two.



Thanks, I think I'll go for this. I've been poking around bitz sites for a while, but they always seem to be sold out of whatever I'm looking for. That's why I was hoping for a 3rd party - GW aren't fixing this issue any time soon, so another manufacturer would be useful if this problem ever occurs in the future (which it probably will).

It is totally absurd that you can't build what you want from the box you just got. At least the melta, missile launcher, and plasma guns are there.

EDIT: Thanks for your input, everyone!

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Sieg Zeon!

Selling TGG2! 
   
Made in nl
Regular Dakkanaut




The mantic corporation heavy weapons are definitely smaller. They're half way between a bolter and a devastator heavy weapon.

I also found this:
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_78&product_id=227




EDIT: Fusion power plant is separate here:
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=119

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