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so i have a question about inquisition and warp "time travel" ..... if an preheresy imperial army unit got lost in the warp and was pulledback into " the present" would the inquisition purge them or would they be restructured by the munitorium...

Good question. I guess they would be tested for any taint of chaos and then probably broken up into the Imperial guard, possibly forming their own regiments. Similar things have happened with space marines (Darnath Lysander of the Imperial Fists for example).

Might also depend on how much they knew from the time of the heresy. If they knew too much they might just be purged to keep them from making people question what happened during the heresy.

I wonder what would happen to their pre-heresy ship. >-> Techpriests would be all over that.

hmmm speaking of techpriests was the mechanicus part of theformation of the imperial creed or was it older than that.... techheresy mightt be what screws them

I doubt it, seeing how the techpriest get a hard on from any thing related to technology or engineering that is over a couple millenia old. See lego. Tech heresy, IIRC, is basically just making fethed up gak. Like servitors from orks. Either way they probably have wet dreams of an imperial fleet that old coming out of the warp untainted...

 andtheyshallknownofear wrote:
I doubt it, seeing how the techpriest get a hard on from any thing related to technology or engineering that is over a couple millenia old. See lego. Tech heresy, IIRC, is basically just making fethed up gak. Like servitors from orks. Either way they probably have wet dreams of an imperial fleet that old coming out of the warp untainted...

Hence how space marines keep getting "encouraged" to explore Space Hulks.

I can just imagine a techpriest holding up the keys to a new land raider going, "if the good little heretic-hating space marine goes into that genestealer or ork infested, chaos tained, fused, mismatched hulk and comes out with a new power coupling, you get the keys."

Given the radical difference in Imperial ideology from the Heresy to present, the manpower would likely be liquidated. Any AdMech personnel included therein would be absorbed back into the AdMech for whatever knowledge they might have, as they're potential experience would far outweight annoying the Inquisition or Ecclesiarchy, and their equipment would be reverse engineered if it was more advanced than modern Imperial tech (volkite weapons and such), though by and large, the equipment the Army used in the Heresy isn't much different than the modern Guard, in fact, the modern guard have a lot more tank options than the old Army, most Leman Russ variants have been devised in the intervening millenia, with only the standard and executioner variants being specifically stated to have existed back then.

Given that much of their equipment would not only be of only equal or lower quality, but it would not fit the standardized logistic network of the Munitorum, it would likely just be disposed of. What's the point of a lasgun with similar range and damage, but requires a non-standard power supply? Or autoguns, which were far more common in the old Army, which are nowadays only relegated to PDF forces, and the poor-quality ones at that.

If they were in ships, however, that would generate quite a lot of attention, particularly if this "fleet" appeared in the more distant reaches of the Imperium. The AdMech tends to horde knowledge even within the organization, so any far-flung Forgeworld with limited design access would jump at the chance to start producing advanced warships.

ok the ships and tech are valuable but what about the units? would there be an inquisitorial detail assigned to keep tabs on them? or would that not be worth their time

 Somedude593 wrote:
ok the ships and tech are valuable but what about the units? would there be an inquisitorial detail assigned to keep tabs on them? or would that not be worth their time

They'd likely be killed.

A pre-heresy, or heresy era Imperial Army believes in the Imperial Truth, not the Imperial Creed. To them, the Emperor is not a god, he is the Emperor, much like the primarchs; they're larger than life, and some may harbour closet perceptions of divinity, but by and large, religion is the enemy of the Heresy era Imperium.

To the modern Imperium, that is one heck of a heretical viewpoint. While most inquisitors are more aware of the true nature of the Imperium, both then and now, they recognize the neccessity of religion, and it wouldn't do to have several thousand semi-useful troops spreading destabilizing ideologies. Even the admech personnel attached to them would likely be, at best, cloistered away and mined for information, as they'd be dangerously innovative by "today's" standards.

Ideas are more dangerous than weapons, and while the Imperium could use their weapons and technology, their ideas would be incredibly dangerous. The risk of having these people who know the truth about the Emperor, and the early Imperium would be far too dangerous to the current status quo to keep alive. Some, if proven valuable, might find use within the inquisition itself, or seconded to the AdMech, but at no point would they be "free" to do as they please. They would be tools, tightly controlled, and eliminated the moment they posed any kind of threat.

so i guess my final question would be if a preheresy mech unit would be considered fluff compatible ( after warp "time travel").....

I think that the best way to do it would be, spinning off from what MajorStoffer said, would be to make them an inquisition attachment. Maybe model on some sort of rebreather so that they can't communicate with other guardsmen? Could prove to be some interesting fluff.

Besides an imperial army. What if a pre heresy company appeared untainted? Would they be split into chapters or would they be disposed of? Better yet what if it was loyalists from a traitor legion?

Prism962 wrote:
Besides an imperial army. What if a pre heresy company appeared untainted? Would they be split into chapters or would they be disposed of? Better yet what if it was loyalists from a traitor legion?

Space marines are of too much value to be JUST disposed.

So if they're from old loyal Legions ... nobody wants current SMs to decide that current Adeptas Terra somehow similar to Vandire or like idea of Fists with sucessors to go "post-Armageddon" Wolf. But if by "disposed" one means "sent to long/brutal crusade with high chances to perish" - well, that's entirely possible, there's plenty of Ork empires and Tyranid splinter fleets Imperium will be better off without, with "current" SMs and IG better used somewhere near Cadia.

As for restructurizaton - Ultras surely and unquestionly will go Codex, Fist,Ravens and Bloods most probably will be easely convinced, no idea 'bout Dark Angels ,Salamaders and Hands, Wolves - they're most likely candidates for dutyful culling with survivors 1000% to be reintegrated with Chapter.

Loyalist from traitor legions == BIG boost to Deathwatch, after all xenos are exactly the enemy they know how to fight ( though i'm not so sure 'bout Word Eaters, 1K Sons and Emperor's Children - they're in almost imminent danger of corruption...but surely galaxy of M40 have number of places for them to quickly die for Mankind with honour and purpose), with survivors getting chance to form their officially "orphan" chapters.

And Alpha is unlikely to gave their fate in hands of Imperials in first place, even being truly loyal they most probably will fight their own war.

I'm not sure the World Eaters would be prone to corruption per se. If they were pre-Angron War Hounds, then they'd be just slightly more brutal than your average Space Marines (who, after all, start from a baseline of being genocidal killing machines who will happily slaughter entire civilisations if they don't immediately roll over). Post-Angron early days World Eaters, probably the same, but full on skull full of Butcher's Nails World Eaters just before Angron decided that he didn't like the Emperor's leash anymore, yes, a good chance of starting an interesting collection of skulls.

Similarly, the Emperor's Children might have been somewhat high-handed but the likes of Saul Tarvitz, Vespasian etc. showed that they weren't all perverts in waiting.

Thousand Sons are on a hiding to nothing.