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From what I read in the BRB, when units deepstrike you place the first model (after scattering) then build a circle around it, a few players I know when deepstriking small squads place the first model then 3 models in front of it. Isnt that building a semi circle around the first model?, Surely a circle would be one model in the middle and the others at 90degree point around the middle one (so if you traced a imaginary circle through the units outside of the first one it would acutally be a circle, while placing the 3 models in front of the other one it would be a semi circle). Would that be RAW, is that how you play it (its how I play it when deepstriking my units).

Granted with 4 models it would mean only one couldnt use templates, but still it would affect the range a bit.

Exact wording

Next, the units remaining models are arranged around the first one. Models must be placed in base contact with the first model in a circle around it. When the first circle is complete, a further concentric circle must be placed with each model touching the circle inside it. Each circle must include as many models as will fit.

Fair enough with just 3 models you can place them either side of the first but with 5 and more (when doing the second circle) to me RAW that must be placed as to form a circle, as no semi circles?

With 4 models you place one model and when you determine its location you start building a circle around it.

As long as the next 3 models are touching the first model's base, then you are starting to build the first circle.

The next three models can be placed anywhere along the circle as long as they are in base contact with the first model.

In other words, MarkyMark is asking the following. Is this a legal deployment for deep strike?

The first model has been placed, and the other models have been placed around it touching the center model in a pattern that will form a circle.


If the next two models were placed down, they would look like this. Notice how the second circle is still forming.


If there were 9 models, and you formed the first concentric circle, you would have 2 models to place down. Is it legal to place them in a similar pattern to the first.

@labmouse42

All three of those are legal because all three meet the requirement of the rule.

This is a change from 5th and 4th where you also had to place the members building the circle in base with eachother as well as the centre model.

Spot on Lab mouse, the first and last pictures would be how I would do it, you cant form a circle with 2 models so either side is cool, the last picture you can trace a circle from each model to the next.

The middle picture (for what its worth, lets face it only 1 flamer would not be able to fire a template off hardly going to matter) is what I would say is not putting the models in a circle around the first, its a semi circle.

Only really going to matter with larger units deepstriking and templates weapons (seeing as the third picture is flamers at their max groupd of 9 not so much those). I have before deepstruck 12 marines (10 assault marines with sang priest and JP'd HQ) so that mattered then as I was out of range with a few models and the flamer guys had to be put at the front to get template range and not touching friendly models base.




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nosferatu1001 wrote:
This is a change from 5th and 4th where you also had to place the members building the circle in base with eachother as well as the centre model.

Ah, now this I never knew (played 2nd ed years ago and only got back into this last September) so this makes a little more sense that they have specially excluded the wording that they have to be in base to base with each other (which would draw a circle).

MarkyMark wrote:
Spot on Lab mouse, the first and last pictures would be how I would do it, you cant form a circle with 2 models so either side is cool, the last picture you can trace a circle from each model to the next.

The middle picture (for what its worth, lets face it only 1 flamer would not be able to fire a template off hardly going to matter) is what I would say is not putting the models in a circle around the first, its a semi circle.

Only really going to matter with larger units deepstriking and templates weapons (seeing as the third picture is flamers at their max groupd of 9 not so much those). I have before deepstruck 12 marines (10 assault marines with sang priest and JP'd HQ) so that mattered then as I was out of range with a few models and the flamer guys had to be put at the front to get template range and not touching friendly models base.




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nosferatu1001 wrote:
This is a change from 5th and 4th where you also had to place the members building the circle in base with eachother as well as the centre model.

Ah, now this I never knew (played 2nd ed years ago and only got back into this last September) so this makes a little more sense that they have specially excluded the wording that they have to be in base to base with each other (which would draw a circle).

So are you agreeing that while building a circle, the only requirement is that you place the model in contact with the first model or a model from the outermost complete circle?