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2013/03/02 01:47:43
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
Even looking at the game from walkthroughs gave me a hemoroid. It's a terrible game. The gameplay is clunky, the graphics dated to other games from this year and it's terribly buggy.
Wouldn't recomend anyone to buy this game, but you'd rather want to go and rent it. It saves you quite some money.
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Melissia wrote: I'm really glad I didn't get this game now...
Ditto! I've never seen such a brutal lambasting of a release. And jeez, I LOVE Aliens. I really love that movie, and was very interested in this game. I'm glad I didn't pre-order it. And this fiasco pretty much puts the nail in the coffin on me ever pre-ordering a game until I see live gameplay footage and reviews.
What a disappointment.
2013/03/02 18:20:30
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
Look at the bottom of the last page. Machu pretty much has a post about how Sega is trying to blame Gearbox, Gearbox is trying to blame Timegate, we who are not dead brained not Gearbox is as much at fault at Timegate for lying about the game's development etc etc. The Blame Game is strong with this one
Just rented it. Finally got off the Sulaco and Im calling it a night. Im really enjoying it so far, but hey Im easy to please. Sorry to see people getting so upset over it.
Well I've played through. The campaign was decent, liked the references and tie ins, including the bring back, but I did return my copy pretty much after I finished the campaign, the multiplayer Xenos controls were disappointing as heck and I'm generally in the Jim Sterling camp that Gearbox let us down over all, though I did enjoy what there was. Here's hoping for next time.
Game over man! Game over!
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
Finished the campaign last weekend also. It's not "unenjoyable", and as I said they really got the visuals right (with exception of the WY goons - wish they'd stuck to the cool retro Alien3 design) ... but damn was that ending anti-climatic.
Also, those plotholes were easily big enough to fit the Nostromo through, twice. It's almost hilarious how it's even pointed out in the dialogue:
Character 1: "But .. that makes no sense at all!"
Character 2: "No time to explain!"
- a few hours later -
Character 3: "How is that even possible?"
Character 4: "Long story."
LordofHats wrote: Look at the bottom of the last page. Machu pretty much has a post about how Sega is trying to blame Gearbox, Gearbox is trying to blame Timegate, we who are not dead brained not Gearbox is as much at fault at Timegate for lying about the game's development etc etc. The Blame Game is strong with this one
Well taking into account the last few expansions for BL2 having been farmed out to companies such as Treyarch, I'm not surprised. GearBox usually just puts in the time to build the initial game and then moves on from the property rather than supporting it in the way that make sense.
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2013/03/08 11:08:43
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
I'm hoping the PC community can get a hold of it and mod it into a good game. The framework is there, who knows, maybe they can make the game that Gearbox was supposed to make in the first place!
That said I wouldn't exactly hold my breath.
In other news, as if I didn't have a good reason before, this is all the reason I need to never preorder again.
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2013/03/09 04:41:20
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
VermGho5t wrote:Well taking into account the last few expansions for BL2 having been farmed out to companies such as Treyarch, I'm not surprised. GearBox usually just puts in the time to build the initial game and then moves on from the property rather than supporting it in the way that make sense.
Which is ironic, at least for me. I still remember Gearbox as being the company that used to have stuff farmed out to them - from Half-Life OpFor to KotOR2. Loved both games, though. They did a good job on them, even if KotOR2 was a horrible mess that obviously had a ton of stuff cut from it due to release pressure.
The A:CM debacle really is a shocker, given all the things that apparently went wrong throughout its uberlong development cycle - then again, I guess Gearbox would by far not be the first studio to have become "corrupted" by success. I'm interested to see what consequences all of this is going to have, for Gearbox's reputation as well as whether or not they change their approach to future products. Not to mention any potential lawsuits filed against one of the companies (though I have a feeling this might be settled out of court).
2013/03/09 05:49:14
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
VermGho5t wrote:Well taking into account the last few expansions for BL2 having been farmed out to companies such as Treyarch, I'm not surprised. GearBox usually just puts in the time to build the initial game and then moves on from the property rather than supporting it in the way that make sense.
Which is ironic, at least for me. I still remember Gearbox as being the company that used to have stuff farmed out to them - from Half-Life OpFor to KotOR2. Loved both games, though. They did a good job on them, even if KotOR2 was a horrible mess that obviously had a ton of stuff cut from it due to release pressure.
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KOTOR 2 was Obsidian not Gearbox methinks...
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
The game is horrible, but hilarious when played in coop. The so-called horror and terror is instantly gone when you play with some other people.
My brother would take point, shouting out loud how he hoped he didn't get a face full of alien wing-wong, while I trailed behind him with an assortment of weapons with flamethrower attachments. Whenever he'd get stuck in a QTE I'd hose him with fire, no need for him to mash buttons.
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2013/03/09 09:52:58
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
d3m01iti0n wrote: Just rented it. Finally got off the Sulaco and Im calling it a night. Im really enjoying it so far, but hey Im easy to please. Sorry to see people getting so upset over it.
I'd like to say that I'd be less upset if I had rented it as well, instead of buying it. Part of me is super pissed that I pre-ordered it and paid full retail for a game I bet you'll be able to get on sale on Steam for $5 within 90 days.
But, you know, it's not even the money. Really, it isn't.
Part of it, obviously, is the lying trailer full of lies that Randy "Lieface" Pitchford put out that was full of lies. I mean, that was just a giant middle finger to everyone. Did he think that no one would notice when the game came out that none of that was there? It's mind boggling. He had to have known that eventually, people would find out what they did. But even that is only a small part of it.
The biggest part, for me at least, is the fact that this was supposed to be the canon sequel to Aliens. All the other AvP games were all in fun but you knew it was just a one-shot game with a tenuous to nonexistent connection to the universe at large. This was the one that was The Story, Continued! Like, for realsies. And now... and now they dropped this big stinking turd in our hands, and that's it. There are no take-backs. You'll always remember this as walking into one of the greatest sci-fi stories in modern history, and then, the office ending to it is always going to be a confusing mess that totally screwed up the story and didn't make any attempt to explain anything. They're never going to get another at-bat for this, that's how the Aliens tale ends now. With a really annoyed sounding Hicks saying, "That's a long story, shrug, whatever".
I know Yahtzee's right that if you look at every single product in the brand post-Aliens that really, we shouldn't have expected any better. But I still did. It's like you're a little kid who believes in Santa, and then Santa comes over to your house and rings the bell, and you open the door and you're like OMG it's Santa! And then he runs in your house and rapes your mom and then on the way out rips off his fake beard and says, "you dumb bastard, there's no Santa, I'm just an escaped mental patient".
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2013/03/09 10:06:02
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh you okay Lyn? Some more sleep maybe
Guess so - I'm a nights person, but there does come a time when I'm switching into energy savings mode.
Splattered a few heads in ME3 after patching it all up again in response to reading the corresponding thread. At least my reflexes are still in order. Now, though ... off to bed, finishing the day with another chapter of a Battletech novel.
KalashnikovMarine wrote:I'd happily put ANYTHING Gearbox has done over anything Gearbox has dropped out though. KOTOR 2 and New Vegas alone...
Was that a test?
BrookM wrote:Whenever he'd get stuck in a QTE I'd hose him with fire, no need for him to mash buttons.
Doesn't that cause damage to friendlies? I got yelled at for doing this.
... come to think of it, that might be a bit of a habit of mine, tho. People also got scared when I wielded a flamethrower in Alien Swarm. I say that's just karma for certain "grenade incidents" in Saints Row 3. For some reason, most of my gamer friends seem to have a weapon you just cannot trust them with.
2013/03/09 15:22:15
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
I'm hoping the PC community can get a hold of it and mod it into a good game.
I've heard there are some mod teams already gearing up to give a game a total overhaul. Haven't found anything on google though so I'll have to hunt down a buddy who's all about mods and see if he's heard anything.
I know Yahtzee's right that if you look at every single product in the brand post-Aliens that really, we shouldn't have expected any better. But I still did. It's like you're a little kid who believes in Santa, and then Santa comes over to your house and rings the bell, and you open the door and you're like OMG it's Santa! And then he runs in your house and rapes your mom and then on the way out rips off his fake beard and says, "you dumb bastard, there's no Santa, I'm just an escaped mental patient".
Actually I felt Yahtzee heard what people said but honestly took them at their word and didn't realize what they meant. What people really seem to mean when they say that it is "the last great betrayal" is that this will be the end of the franchise. That from this point there may be no return and no chance that it will ever be redeemed.
Time will tell either way.
I'm interested to see what consequences all of this is going to have, for Gearbox's reputation as well as whether or not they change their approach to future products. Not to mention any potential lawsuits filed against one of the companies (though I have a feeling this might be settled out of court).
Honestly, I'm skeptical anything will come of it. I think gamers threw their chance to reverse this trend away when they sued EA over ME3's ending. That fiasco possibly wasted any credibility that could be mounted against publishers for the time being. Gamers got viewed as whining babies who will complain about anything before that happened and after it happened that idea just got reinforced so powers that be are even less likely to care now.
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I'm interested to see what consequences all of this is going to have, for Gearbox's reputation as well as whether or not they change their approach to future products. Not to mention any potential lawsuits filed against one of the companies (though I have a feeling this might be settled out of court).
Honestly, I'm skeptical anything will come of it. I think gamers threw their chance to reverse this trend away when they sued EA over ME3's ending. That fiasco possibly wasted any credibility that could be mounted against publishers for the time being. Gamers got viewed as whining babies who will complain about anything before that happened and after it happened that idea just got reinforced so powers that be are even less likely to care now.
While a fair point, do you know any other industry that holds it's customer base in such disdain?
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
I don't even know if I called it disdain. More like indifference. Gamers complain a lot (I know I do) so they just stopped listening because not listening didn't hurt their bottom line.
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....oooh fair point! I don't think the music industry outright despises it's customers though.
Depends on who you talk to and what genre they're in. Although it's definitely in the ballpark.
Also, I agree that the lawsuit over Mass Effect 3's ending probably shot us in the foot if we wanted to make a serious lawsuit.
I mean seriously, you wanted to sue them because the ending wasn't sunshine and rainbows? SERIOUSLY? (that's why people got mad right? Never played the games, but unless that game photoshopped in a picture of your mother and sodomized I can't see the ending being bad enough for people to seriously try and sue them)
Oh well, I guess all we can do now is try and convince people to never preorder again and tell them to just be patient and wait for the reviews before they buy something.
Because as bad as this game is, I guarantee you it still made a good chunk of money. And as long as the companies can trick consumers into buying their crap games, they won't give a damn how bad it is. Heck, if we keep doing this, it won't be long till they make a game with a 2 hour story and a single multiplayer mode and try to charge 60 bucks for it, because they know they'll get away it, because nobody can get refunds for a crap game.
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2013/03/10 01:47:02
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
LordofHats wrote:Honestly, I'm skeptical anything will come of it. I think gamers threw their chance to reverse this trend away when they sued EA over ME3's ending. That fiasco possibly wasted any credibility that could be mounted against publishers for the time being. Gamers got viewed as whining babies who will complain about anything before that happened and after it happened that idea just got reinforced so powers that be are even less likely to care now.
Good point. :(
I facepalmed so hard at that.
2013/03/10 05:00:39
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
There's supposed to be a four player mode called bug hunt coming out soon, which pits four marines against hordes of aliens, something the game should've had right from the start IMHO.
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2013/03/10 10:57:24
Subject: Colonial Mairnes, who is looking forward to them?
BrookM wrote: There's supposed to be a four player mode called bug hunt coming out soon, which pits four marines against hordes of aliens, something the game should've had right from the start IMHO.
Agree. It's seems like an obvious inclusion but this was also what I was really hoping for. I'd like it to be a free add on, and maybe just maybe, it'll make the buy worth it for me XD Of course that assumes anyone is still around to even try the game mode with
I love how the title to this thread still hasn't been fixed...
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