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I'm confused by the size differences in each faction's titans.

From what I've seen Eldar, IOM, Orks and even Nids have a 'scout' class titan.
Revenant, Warhound, Gargant and Hierophant

Eldar and IOM have a 'medium' class titan.
Phantom and Reaver

And then IOM have 'heavy' and 'superheavy' titans.
Warlord and Imperator

My question is if there has been any refference to other race's titans and larger titans on par with even the Imperator? I heard about Great Gargants being the term for trluy enormous Ork Titans but do those get to be up to the siz of the bigger IOM titans or are they just a 'medium' titan?

Any info on this would be really helpful

http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/Gargant_Size_Chart_V4_Preview.PNG

Its a helpful chart. I know the Imperator is like what, 50m tall?

I believe so, something completely ridiculous for sure


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And thank you, that clears up orks at least, I'm still curious about the other races though.

You can find all your answers here

Basically Emperor Class Titans are 50 to 55 meters tall ( total bs if you ask me but then GW lack of logic has been surprising ).

Chaos has almost the same Titans as the Imperium, so they are tied there.

Eldar as always sacrifice in brute strength for flexibility - their Titans are the same, so in Imeprium terms they can be consider medium Titans at best.

Ork Mega Gargant is at the same size as Imperator, only difference is that Imperator is somewhat better build and much more flexible. As they say they are "extremely crude and lack the scientific sophistication of human or Eldar Titans."

Biggest Tyranid Bio Titans are reported to be 15m big, so they are not bigger than Warhound.

Dark Eldar do not have Titans.

Tau are to busy watching anime to build one

Lol thanks brother alexander, they seem to have updated the titan page since i last perused it.
Love the Tau comment XD

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
You can find all your answers here

Basically Emperor Class Titans are 50 to 55 meters tall ( total bs if you ask me but then GW lack of logic has been surprising ).

Chaos has almost the same Titans as the Imperium, so they are tied there.

Eldar as always sacrifice in brute strength for flexibility - their Titans are the same, so in Imeprium terms they can be consider medium Titans at best.

Ork Mega Gargant is at the same size as Imperator, only difference is that Imperator is somewhat better build and much more flexible. As they say they are "extremely crude and lack the scientific sophistication of human or Eldar Titans."

Biggest Tyranid Bio Titans are reported to be 15m big, so they are not bigger than Warhound.

Dark Eldar do not have Titans.

Tau are to busy watching anime to build one

We have the Manta, which is cooler =P

XD I dispute whether or not a dropship/gunship is a titan. Still awesome and a force to be reckoned with to be sure, but not a titan specifically. Titans are walkers/mecha of apocolypse-ness. The manta is a dropship/gunship of doom

Manta is cooler?
It retreated when Space Marines attacked it with Land Speeders. LAND SPEEDERS!!!

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/Gargant_Size_Chart_V4_Preview.PNG

Its a helpful chart. I know the Imperator is like what, 50m tall?

It's also fan-made and not all that accurate. Fact is GW itself hasn't been decisive on a lot of Titan sizes.

 Harriticus wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/Gargant_Size_Chart_V4_Preview.PNG

Its a helpful chart. I know the Imperator is like what, 50m tall?

It's also fan-made and not all that accurate. Fact is GW itself hasn't been decisive on a lot of Titan sizes.

You mean on anything. They're never decisive on anything

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
Biggest Tyranid Bio Titans are reported to be 15m big, so they are not bigger than Warhound.

Harridans can be up to 29m long with wingspans to match. There's also conflicting fluff which describes Tyranid Biotitans (including Hierophants) that were much larger than that. Not to mention the various Tyranid Biotitans such as the Vituperator or Dominatrix, of which little detailed information is known, but are stated as being fething huge.

In Helsreach, the Imperator Titan Stormherald was 60 metres tall.

It was, in turn, dwarfed by an Ork Gargant (Great Gargant? Mega Gargant? I'm not sure of the appropriate terminology). There was no size given for this gigantic Ork beast, it was just noted that it 'dwarfed Stormherald). So, that's pretty frickin big.

 Darth Bob wrote:

Harridans can be up to 29m long with wingspans to match. There's also conflicting fluff which describes Tyranid Biotitans (including Hierophants) that were much larger than that. Not to mention the various Tyranid Biotitans such as the Vituperator or Dominatrix, of which little detailed information is known, but are stated as being fething huge.

Thanks for the info on Harridian, but it is still much smaller than Imperial Titans. That's for the air, for ground I only found info for Dominatrix ( stated as "a colossal mass, dwarfing that of an Imperial Super Heavy Tank" witch is nothing compared to Titan ), Hierophant ( stated to be as tall as 15 meters, witch is like Warhound ) and Viciator ( it is stated that he is "akin to the more well-known Hierophant, witch means that he to is around 15 meters tall. Again at the size of Warhound ).

Tyranids have nothing to match the size of Imperator Titan, it seems that most of their Titans can match Warhound by height with two exceptions that can match Warlord.

The sizes of Ork Gargants are liable to vary quite a lot. They don't really go for uniform measurements.

Also, the Tyranids had a creature (Tyrannofex, maybe)? that, by the phrasing in the Tyranid Codex, seems to have taken out the Titan Legion of the second most powerful Forgeworld (that was) in the Imperium, so I'd imagine it was pretty big.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:

Harridans can be up to 29m long with wingspans to match. There's also conflicting fluff which describes Tyranid Biotitans (including Hierophants) that were much larger than that. Not to mention the various Tyranid Biotitans such as the Vituperator or Dominatrix, of which little detailed information is known, but are stated as being fething huge.

Thanks for the info on Harridian, but it is still much smaller than Imperial Titans. That's for the air, for ground I only found info for Dominatrix ( stated as "a colossal mass, dwarfing that of an Imperial Super Heavy Tank" witch is nothing compared to Titan ), Hierophant ( stated to be as tall as 15 meters, witch is liek Warhound ) and Viciator ( it is stated that he is "akin to the more well-known Hierophant, witch means that he to isa around 155 meters tall. Again at the size of Warhound ).

Tyranids have nothing to match the size of Imperator Titan, it seems that most of their Titans can match Warhound by height with two exceptions that can match Warlord.

Fair enough, thought It's a reasonable speculation that Tyranids are probably capable of creating Biotitans of that size when we consider they are known to adapt to counter their enemies.

Didnt the necrons in Medusa V try to reactive something called a "crypt stalker"?

Not sure of it counts as a Titan, but i think it was mentioned being larger than a tomb stalker.

Again, not sure if it counts but they also have the Megalith and that thing must be the size of a small city.

Also, wasn't the original STC titan they found described to be among the largest titans ever encountered?

I'd love to hear more on necron titan equivalents
As for tyranid bio-titans, if you've ever played alien swarm you can picture this too, I always kinda pictures them jumping onto imperators and tearing em apart en masse

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
You can find all your answers here

Basically Emperor Class Titans are 50 to 55 meters tall ( total bs if you ask me but then GW lack of logic has been surprising ).

Chaos has almost the same Titans as the Imperium, so they are tied there.

Eldar as always sacrifice in brute strength for flexibility - their Titans are the same, so in Imeprium terms they can be consider medium Titans at best.

Ork Mega Gargant is at the same size as Imperator, only difference is that Imperator is somewhat better build and much more flexible. As they say they are "extremely crude and lack the scientific sophistication of human or Eldar Titans."

Biggest Tyranid Bio Titans are reported to be 15m big, so they are not bigger than Warhound.

Dark Eldar do not have Titans.

Tau are to busy watching anime to build one

We have the Manta, which is cooler =P

The Tigershark AX-1-0 can take out titans for a fraction of the cost of a titan (both in real money and in 'in universe' resources). Tau's answer = better

 HerbaciousT wrote:

The Tigershark AX-1-0 can take out titans for a fraction of the cost of a titan (both in real money and in 'in universe' resources). Tau's answer = better

An interesting story how they made Tiger-shark.
They took ordinary Barracuda and strip all weapons from it and mounted rail-guns from their main battleship, to bring down weakest and smallest of all Titans.

So they basically used their most powerful weapons to kill the smallest Imperial Titan, I can't wait to see what will they do when they encounter Warlord or Imperator.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

 HerbaciousT wrote:

The Tigershark AX-1-0 can take out titans for a fraction of the cost of a titan (both in real money and in 'in universe' resources). Tau's answer = better

An interesting story how they made Tiger-shark.
They took ordinary Barracuda and strip all weapons from it and mounted rail-guns from their main battleship, to bring down weakest and smallest of all Titans.

So they basically used their most powerful weapons to kill the smallest Imperial Titan, I can't wait to see what will they do when they encounter Warlord or Imperator.

They will laugh, mainly because huge bipedal walkers are, despite being damn cool, the idiot's way of building a warmachine.
Titans only make sense if one considers them to be religious icons ( for Imperial and ork titans ) or the product of whatever kind of insanity makes the eldar dress in bright colours and giant crested helmets to wage a war.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

An interesting story how they made Tiger-shark.
They took ordinary Barracuda and strip all weapons from it and mounted rail-guns from their main battleship, to bring down weakest and smallest of all Titans.

So they basically used their most powerful weapons to kill the smallest Imperial Titan, I can't wait to see what will they do when they encounter Warlord or Imperator.

Close but no cigar:
1. The titan killer is the Tiger Shark AX-1-0, which is a variant not of the Barracuda but the.. Tiger Shark.

2. The AX-1-0 mounts the larger railguns of the Manta which is effectively a warp shuttle, its guns are most definitely not the largest the Tau posses: in Battlefleet Gothic even the smallest Tau escort has rail gun batteries that can reach out and touch an enemy that it would take a Manta 2 turns to get within range of (which is point-blank in space combat terms, or base ot base contact in BFG).

3. In the AX-1-0's first deployment (Taros) it engaged and DESTROYED a single Warhound so decisively that the entire remaining (Warhound) Titan force was completely withdrawn from combat rather than suffer the same fate. Given that level of overkill and that a Warlord has almost always been depicted as having triple the shielding of a Warhound I imagine 2-4 AX-1-0's would be enough to make short work of one. Or possibly even just one since Warlords have always been decidedly lacking on the AA front.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/Gargant_Size_Chart_V4_Preview.PNG

Its a helpful chart. I know the Imperator is like what, 50m tall?

Wait! there is a vehicle called "Ruzzbot". using Leman Russ track. what actually is it? and its fuctions. please

Ruzzbot. Looks like it smashes tanks with a HAMMER! Take that Tau railguns!...wait thats me....lol. Yeah the tau answer to titans is spaceships frankly. Rock on. Their own version would be like a Armored Core video game mech (I vote AC4Answer) that maybe they field just to make the Imperium feel bad/stupid. And I want one.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
Manta is cooler?
It retreated when Space Marines attacked it with Land Speeders. LAND SPEEDERS!!!

This is sadly true despite how large and heavy the old (26 lbs I believe) model is.

Is there anywhere besides FW that sells the bigger titans? I'd rather not scratch build something that large.

The novel Savage Scars had the Tau take down a Warhound by repeatedly dropping smart missiles on it's head. It took a while but worked.

Later the remaining Legio force took their revenge by basically removing a city from existance.