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Me Fella Warbosses,
I has been an Orksie for a good... dunno how long, but it hasn't been long. I's needs your help, though! I's gotta face 2000 points of dem Chaos 'Umies, and they'se tha Khorny ones! I's made a list, and I's wantin me fella Warbosses to see if it will give em a good scrapin' or not!

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka
Weirdboy Warphead

Troops:
120 Boyz (4 mobs of 30)
3 Big Shootas per mob
Each mob comes with a Nob with a Power Klaw and a Bosspole

Elites:
30 Tankbustas (2 squads of 15)
2 Tankhammas per mob
Each mob comes with a Nob with a Power Klaw and a Bosspole

15 Lootas

Tha's tha list I made. Tha main reason I's bringin' tha Tankbustas is for tha vehicles he's takin': I's hopin they's gonna krump it up good!
I's need your opinion, though! Please, tell me what's ya thinkin on this?

quick question

are the boyz choppa or dakka?
if i were you i would take one squad of choppa with wierdboy and ghaz for ere we go to jump to back lines and have the shoota boyz work like choppa boyz except they dakka everywhere b4 choppa-ing

also, do you know if they are taking any fliers?
if so consider 2 dakka jets instead of some of the tankbustas because with the waaghs spawned from wierdboy you will be getting a stupid amount of shots off with them and they will take out any flier in one round of shooting guarenteed with waagh

Boss! Boss! Youz needs to rethink your list! Dem spiky Chaos boyz are probably bringin' their red Zerker boyz in Land Reyderz or sumfink, wiff some flyin' squiggoths they callz Heldrakes and dere own Warboss who'll krump ya in a challenge. Youz need to deal with dem! First, I hope youz give all your Boyz Shootas, deyz gonna kill da Zerker Boyz and any other gits better than Sluggas!

Smash up some Tankbustaz, theyz no good for da cost, especially if da Chaos Boyz point da loud end of dere Dakka at dem they all turn ta squig-soup, and wiffout Trukks dey can't get across the field fast enuff. Go to da Deffskullz camp over dat hill and get sum more Lootaz instead, they krump anyfink dat's not AV14, i.e. Rhinoz and Daemon Enginez as well as all da Chaos boyz an' even Kultistz if you got nothin' better ta shoot at. Youz need to rely on klaws ta kill da tuff Reyderz an' da Lootaz take care of da rest. Deyz can krump enemy flyin' creatures if needed, too.

Consider sum Meganobz too, Boss, da Khorny Chaos Boyz got trouble eating through 2+ saves in CC. Dey'z gonna be good for Ghaz to hang 'round, maybe in a Trukk outta LOS and ready ta pounce and start krumpin'. Getting all da klaws on da regular Nobz makes ya vulnerable ta sum bloodthirsty gits who may challenge yer Nobz and shut 'em down if ya refuse or kill 'em as easily as squishin' a squig if ya accept.

Thank Gork dat those Chaos boyz forgotz to loot some Land Reyder Kruzaderz when they stomped the Marine boyz...

Maybe get a blitza bomber or 2 uf they plain on taking land raiders as they are some of the best antitank you got

 A GumyBear wrote:
Maybe get a blitza bomber or 2 uf they plain on taking land raiders as they are some of the best antitank you got

(/Orkspeak) Too risky IMO. Dakkajets may do well though, popping Rhinos and killing Zerkers in droves.

Agree with Hedkrakka about taking all shootas and not the tankbustas. Lootas will deal to anything less than a land raider better than tankbustas, and tankbustas wont deal to a raider regardless. The do have one thing going for them though against MEQs, ap3 and S8. But they are unreliable so I suggest dropping the tankbustas. Getting another unit of lootas, and getting a battery or two of kannons. With bs3 they're practically snipers and will last longer than tankbustas, plus no glory hogs in these guys. An ADL to chuck these all behind would be advisable as well.
For the raiders, you'll have to pk them, but then that means whatevers inside will get to you. But hey, wot ork would want to do themself out of a good fight.
To prevent challenges, other than shooting the whole unit to bits, the other option is to give the pk nobs a combi rokkit. With precision shots on a 6, half the time you hit its a god shot and you choose who's wounded. Sayonara sergeant. Now this isn't reliable at all but I do it if there is points to spare. Its just hilarious when your sharpshooter nob blows the face of a power fist space marine sergeant (or in this case; chaos).

Alrighty, I's gotz tha newest list 'ere for ya ta look at!
I's actually got 2, so if'n ya think theys good unz, tell me what me fella Warbosses would do wiv 'em!

List 1:
Ghazghkull
9 Meganobz
Loaded into Battlewagon as Dedicated Transport Vehicle
Battlewagon has Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Boarding Plank, Kannon, 4 Rokkit Launchas and Grot Riggers

60 Boyz (Shootas)
6 Rokkit Launchas
2 Nobs with Power Klaws and Bosspoles.
30 Gretchen with 3 Runtherd

2 Dakkajets
3rd Supa Shoota each
Both with Flighta Ace
24 Lootas (2 mobz of 12)

List 2:
Ghazghkull

60 Boyz (Shootas)
6 Rokkit Launchas
2 Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole

10 Stormboyz led by Boss Zagstruk

30 Lootas (2 mobz of 15)
15 Tankbustas
3 Looted Wagons with Boomguns and 'Ard Cases

1 Deffkopta with a Big Bomm

I's need tha advice of you lot! This is me first 2000 point game!

HinataXemnas wrote:
Alrighty, I's gotz tha newest list 'ere for ya ta look at!
I's actually got 2, so if'n ya think theys good unz, tell me what me fella Warbosses would do wiv 'em!

List 1:
Ghazghkull
9 Meganobz
Loaded into Battlewagon as Dedicated Transport Vehicle
Battlewagon has Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Boarding Plank, Kannon, 4 Rokkit Launchas and Grot Riggers

60 Boyz (Shootas)
6 Rokkit Launchas
2 Nobs with Power Klaws and Bosspoles.
30 Gretchen with 3 Runtherd

2 Dakkajets
3rd Supa Shoota each
Both with Flighta Ace
24 Lootas (2 mobz of 12)

List 2:
Ghazghkull

60 Boyz (Shootas)
6 Rokkit Launchas
2 Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole

10 Stormboyz led by Boss Zagstruk

30 Lootas (2 mobz of 15)
15 Tankbustas
3 Looted Wagons with Boomguns and 'Ard Cases

1 Deffkopta with a Big Bomm

I's need tha advice of you lot! This is me first 2000 point game!

Youz overdid it Boss. Battlewagons are pretty tuff to hide from LOS, youz better get a Trukk and less Meganobz so they fit in dere! Wiff a single vehicle dat ain't hidin' real sneaky-like, all the Chaos boyz' shiny lasers or sumfink will krump it in no time. (/Orkspeak)

Anyway, you need to bring back those lots and lots of Boyz. Let's use the second list as a template. Don't use Zagstrukk, he's not worth the points, and Looted Wagons drop like flies especially if you fail to get first turn/steal the initiative. I would drop the Stormboyz and Tankbustas, add more Boyz and possibly one or two units of 4-5 Meganobz in a Trukk which hide out of LOS until krumpin' time (attempt only if your local meta has a LOT of terrain, otherwise a hybrid list is asking for trouble). I would also split the Lootas into three units of 10 (15 can and often does become overkill). Aegis defence lines also become an attractive option for Lootas if you don't care that much about fluff. The Boomguns are a mixed bag-with Rhino armor, they aren't surviving any healthy round of fire, but you'll likely get off a few shots since you're bringing three of them. I'd still go for Dakkajets and more Boyz, but it's your call.

Bigbomms are too expensive for what they do, drop'em. TL Rokkits or Buzzsaws are the go-to upgrades for the little buggers if you want to get any upgrades at all. Rokkits also tend to be wasteful on Boyz and I would recommend getting them only with leftover points. Whatever you do with your list, you need more Boyz. 60 is way too few for a footslogging 2000 pt list.

If you are only taking 60 boyz you might as well jumo to speed freaks