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http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/futuristic-rifle-turns-novice-sharpshooter-1B7916613

Scary if in the hands of some crazy person. However it sounds pretty cool. It sounds like it takes out all the hard parts of sniping. Dunno what military snipers would think of this.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Scary if in the hands of some crazy person.

What? I'm just saying an average every-man is able to use this device and hit a target and it makes it much simpler.

...so it wouldn't be scary in the hands of a crazy person?

*snicker* having this many thousand dollar scope makes you a sniper the way owning a john deer hat makes you a farmer. All it does is remove the mental math that any basic marksman needs to do to fire a rifle at range properly.

With out decent fundamentals you're screwed everywhere but a range with fixed non-moving targets.

So no, this wouldn't be scary in the hands of a crazy person. Because unless they're menacing steel plates on a range, they don't have the skill level to make use of it in an active environment.

It's also worth noting that the sniper himself is the weapons system, the weapon he's holding is almost inconsequential.

It's just weird that's the first place your mind went, when faced with a $17,000 rifle. I mean, nothing stopping that crazy person from going to Walmart NOW, picking up a shotgun for $200, and just going wild with it.

It's like, when viewing a Ferrari, do you first think, man, I hope no one drives drunk in it?

 Ouze wrote:
It's just weird that's the first place your mind went, when faced with a $17,000 rifle. I mean, nothing stopping that crazy person from going to Walmart NOW, picking up a shotgun for $200, and just going wild with it.

It's like, when viewing a Ferrari, do you first think, man, I hope no one drives drunk in it?

Meh well any tool can be used for good or ill i suppose. I might find it hard to make a dull spoon used for ill but some people have sick minds (i don't mean spoons on noses).

Hard not to think my mind would go there given recent 'events'. Probably bad to make it possible for that argument to start but you know it would've anyway. Also at the end of the article they mention 'the gun debate' or similar.

I only said it takes the guess work out of this and the title i put on this was the title that was on the site i took it from. I just figure it's many times easier and usually less complicated to take the title from the article and put it as the title of the thread.

Cars aren't made to kill people (they just happen to). And pretty sure hypothetical rich crazy person could practice with the gun.

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
Cars aren't made to kill people (they just happen to). And pretty sure hypothetical rich crazy person could practice with the gun.

Hypothetical rich crazy guy can shoot poor people and cover it up to blow off steam and we'd never hear about it.

Haven't you read "The Most Dangerous Game"?

I'm not sure where the "reply is a misunderstanding of what I said" and "the internet has lots of sarcasm scales" are I was saying that the guy could practice with the fancy gun and get good with it in response to the one poster assuming he would just purchase it and never attempt to learn anything about guns first.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
*snicker* having this many thousand dollar scope makes you a sniper the way owning a john deer hat makes you a farmer. All it does is remove the mental math that any basic marksman needs to do to fire a rifle at range properly.

With out decent fundamentals you're screwed everywhere but a range with fixed non-moving targets.

So no, this wouldn't be scary in the hands of a crazy person. Because unless they're menacing steel plates on a range, they don't have the skill level to make use of it in an active environment.

It's also worth noting that the sniper himself is the weapons system, the weapon he's holding is almost inconsequential.

It does seem to only work on non-moving targets. However it still sounds very helpful and honestly if any gun company wants people to buy said gun then they'll try making the equipment as efficient at shooting the targets as possible moving or not. I don't really care either way right now on the gun debate. I saw this and thought it was cool so i posted it. The article was written by that dude on NBC not me. I claim to know nothing of it's capabilities or anything. It only really seems to take all the guess work and calculations out of the sniping.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
*snicker* having this many thousand dollar scope makes you a sniper the way owning a john deer hat makes you a farmer. All it does is remove the mental math that any basic marksman needs to do to fire a rifle at range properly.

With out decent fundamentals you're screwed everywhere but a range with fixed non-moving targets.

So no, this wouldn't be scary in the hands of a crazy person. Because unless they're menacing steel plates on a range, they don't have the skill level to make use of it in an active environment.

It's also worth noting that the sniper himself is the weapons system, the weapon he's holding is almost inconsequential.

Hey you never know when those steel plates can leap up and attack you!

Be right back, found some car keys so now I'm a professional NASCAR driver.

In any event, I suspect this would be handy for training sharpshooters - the scope also outputs to a ipad, which would be pretty hand for a spotter I imagine.

 Ouze wrote:
It's just weird that's the first place your mind went, when faced with a $17,000 rifle. I mean, nothing stopping that crazy person from going to Walmart NOW, picking up a shotgun for $200, and just going wild with it.

It's like, when viewing a Ferrari, do you first think, man, I hope no one drives drunk in it?

Well, to be fair, the first thing I think of when I see a Ferrari is how I can't wait to see that thing spread across five miles of road after the idiot who buys it finds out it didn't turn him into a F1 driver

When you're asleep in public, you're screwed.

At $17,000.00 any anger issues the proposed mass shooter has can be solved with high priced hookers and blow.

 Piston Honda wrote:
At $17,000.00 any anger issues the proposed mass shooter has can be solved with high priced hookers and blow.

Actually, that's a fair point. How many of the spree killers have had access to $17,000 to spend on fun stuff like this rifle?

I think that guy who flew the plane into the tax building probably had access to that kind of money, but that's the only one I can think of.

 sebster wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
At $17,000.00 any anger issues the proposed mass shooter has can be solved with high priced hookers and blow.

Actually, that's a fair point. How many of the spree killers have had access to $17,000 to spend on fun stuff like this rifle?

I think that guy who flew the plane into the tax building probably had access to that kind of money, but that's the only one I can think of.

That's also what makes the ranting about automatic weapons so ludicrous.

Well, in that case, I think it's simply people not being aware that

1.) Automatic weapons are super hard to legally buy and that they cost as much as a low-end mortgage, or
2.) Thinking you can convert to full-auto in your garage

 Ouze wrote:
Well, in that case, I think it's simply people not being aware that

1.) Automatic weapons are super hard to legally buy and that they cost as much as a low-end mortgage, or

Yes... very expensive and red-tape galore

2.) Thinking you can convert to full-auto in your garage

Even then, it's probably illegal to do that. (Even with Class III license??? )

Even with a Class III license it's insanely illegal to convert a weapon to full auto.

People have gotten 10+ years in federal prison for /talking/ about it. Conspiracy to violate federal firearms laws.


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If you have a Class III manufacture's permit you can do it, but at that point you make machineguns already, so why would you bother converting?

People who steal guns don't care about price.

They steal expensive cars too...

 Seaward wrote:
That's also what makes the ranting about automatic weapons so ludicrous.

Sure, that and the stupidity of the 'shoots more bullets = more killy' line of thinking you get from most of the anti-gun types. Those weapons are used in the military because suppression is a really important thing when the other side has guns as well. But when you just want to slaughter a bunch of unarmed innocents, then an accurate semi-auto with a decent rate of fire will do the job much better.

And then there's the whole 'if it's black metal finish it's military and therefore bad, if it's got a wood finish then it's for hunting and must be okay'.

Honestly, every time I read the stuff the anti-gun lobby puts out I become pro-gun. Of course then I read the NRA stuff...

I have no doubt this optic will make its way into an anti-gun rant from someone prominent at some point.

flamingkillamajig wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/futuristic-rifle-turns-novice-sharpshooter-1B7916613

Scary if in the hands of some crazy person. However it sounds pretty cool. It sounds like it takes out all the hard parts of sniping. Dunno what military snipers would think of this.

They'd probably look at this the way a mathematician looks at a calculator.

I am sad that this is really just a fancy optics system. I came into this hoping to read about a laser rifle.

I am disappoint.

 azazel the cat wrote:

flamingkillamajig wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/futuristic-rifle-turns-novice-sharpshooter-1B7916613

Scary if in the hands of some crazy person. However it sounds pretty cool. It sounds like it takes out all the hard parts of sniping. Dunno what military snipers would think of this.

They'd probably look at this the way a mathematician looks at a calculator.

I am sad that this is really just a fancy optics system. I came into this hoping to read about a laser rifle.

I am disappoint.

Glad to see im not the only one then please excuse me my insanely boreing college assignment has just become extremely interesting........

So let me get this straight: I pay $17k for a rifle, and I still have to manually aim it and pull the trigger? Not interested, let me know when they develop a fully-automated gun drone.

 Peregrine wrote:
So let me get this straight: I pay $17k for a rifle, and I still have to manually aim it and pull the trigger? Not interested, let me know when they develop a fully-automated gun drone.

I have a list of people we can lobotomize to begin the process...

 Frazzled wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
So let me get this straight: I pay $17k for a rifle, and I still have to manually aim it and pull the trigger? Not interested, let me know when they develop a fully-automated gun drone.

I have a list of people we can lobotomize to begin the process...

Put me down for beiber and the british goverment