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So I was wondering, Do you Space wolf players use your scouts? If so, Do you use sniper rifles on them? Because I have 10 Scouts with 2 meltas but I'm thinking of getting 5 or 10 scouts with sniper rifles aswell and was wondering what your thoughts on sniper scouts are.

I find the wolf scouts to be pretty good snipers if you can get them set up in the right spot they will deal out a decent amount of damage before dying that is if they even get targeted i use 6 with snipers

Well they have the better BS so you'll hit more often but unless you face alot of monstrous creatures you'd be better giving them plasma weapons and outflanking something expensive in your enemies army and giving them a hot death.

Why are snipers extra good against monsterous creatures..? As for plasma weapons, you can only give 1 scout a Plasma gun and 2 scouts Plasma Pistols..

Merellin wrote:
Why are snipers extra good against monsterous creatures..?

Because they wound on a set number regardless of the target's Toughness. BRB pg 42, Sniper.

I actually think they are rather bad. In 40k, snipers basically suck, sad but true. The only real use for them is to try and allocate the wound and hope for a rending hit and take out squad leaders and such. For that BS is irrelevant since you need natural 6s on the dices. Other snipers are core units and cheaper.

Don't bother using them as snipers.
It's better to use them as an outflanking melta to ambush a vehicle or an assassin unit with power weapons to tie up/kill any backfield units.

First off, the only reason anyone takes sniper scouts is for a cheap scoring unit that might, however slight, contribute to the game by shooting. Snipers are pretty terrible. You're asking for luck for them to do anything. However, a 2+ cover save on a cheap scoring unit is not terrible.

Couple the weakness of snipers with the fact Wolf Scouts are an Elite choice, and you've got something that is utterly pointless.

I wouldn't touch wolf scouts with a barge pole in this edition. The only thing that made them good was having melta-bombs to assault out of reserve. Now they can't do that, you're better off taking GHs or WG and drop podding them in for your plasma- or melta-alpha strike needs.

Merellin wrote:
Why are snipers extra good against monsterous creatures..? As for plasma weapons, you can only give 1 scout a Plasma gun and 2 scouts Plasma Pistols..

A plasma gun and 2 plasma pistols *are* plasma weapons, as in multiple. 3 plasma weapons at short range are pretty potent. Unless you are me and your plasma equipped unit steps out of cover to fire and proceeds to roll 1s on all attack dice, ultimately killing all those models with plasma weapons...

Also snipers wound on a default die roll regardless of target toughness, so lots of hits on a big beastie can be useful from snipers.

Of course ultiamtely you will find them useful or not based on your own play style. Some people will and regularly do consider snipers useless because they ONLY play by the numbers and won't take a unit that isn't "guaranteed" to get a certain result all the time. Snipers can be effective in a battle, or they can have little to no effect in a battle just like many other units. Some won't use wolf scouts at all, let alone as snipers, because they won't waste an elite slot on scouts. I didn't use scouts much in my DA force when they were elites because there were better elite options to choose. They will probably see the table more often, now, that they are troops in the new DA codex. Some won't use scouts at all except in lists that they need to buy a couple really cheap scout units to fill their troops requirements because they have blown their points in things they hope will wipe you out so that the fact that they only have 2 really weak scoring units doesn't have an impact.

Skriker

I face my friend often and he uses scouts, they are tough to shift with shooting but thats about it they almost never kill anything they are only really useful for camping an objective.

Wolf scouts cant even do that with the same gear, you use them to go tank hunting with melta bombs or to kill HS squads in melee.

hobojebus wrote:

Wolf scouts cant even do that with the same gear, you use them to go tank hunting with melta bombs or to kill HS squads in melee.

Except that can't even do that anymore. They stroll on the table, fire a few shots then get blown off again. Not being able to assault from reserves has made Wolf Scouts the worst, if not, close to the worst choice in the SW codex.
The elite slots are bursting with awesome. Lone Wolves are cheap and effective. WG are extremely versatile. I love throwing 3 with combi-meltas in a drop pod and blowing up a tank on turn 1. All for 104pts. They can't be ignored either, or they'll just assault something and tie it up for a turn or two. Or you can run them as terminators, which are surprisingly cheap if you don't get mental. They're pretty awesome at leading a foot slogging list.

Wolf Scouts on the other hand...they don't bring anything to the table that other things in the codex can't do better or at least equal.

Fully agree i'm just spit balling here for if he really wants to use them.

I have 2 full 10 man squads that never get used anymore, but at least they look cool on my shelf...

 purplefood wrote:
Don't bother using them as snipers.
It's better to use them as an outflanking melta to ambush a vehicle or an assassin unit with power weapons to tie up/kill any backfield units.

This... outflanking into someone's backfield with a melta gun is awesome

sadly, they would be awesome if they were troops and could hold objectives. alot better to use them for another purpose