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Wow, so Vindicare is the king at shooting anything now with the removal of LoS for vindicare~

and shooting changed so you can't take max shooting range on one model and damage the entire unit anymore, this might just make assaulting worth it

It requires LoS for as far as my codex says. And that damage rule i am unaware of any rules change concerning damage with demolisher cannon.

lynxstrife wrote:
It requires LoS for as far as my codex says. And that damage rule i am unaware of any rules change concerning damage with demolisher cannon.

2 out of 10.

With the importance of slay the warlord it does give the vindicare a massive boost.

Confused that with another model well yah lol.

Boom, headshot.

Kinda strong, any 2 wound HQ with only an armor save is bound to die in front of him.

 Makutsu wrote:
Wow, so Vindicare is the king at shooting anything now with the removal of LoS for vindicare~

and shooting changed so you can't take max shooting range on one model and damage the entire unit anymore, this might just make assaulting worth it

Correct on the first, not on the second

The old rule was that,as long as any model inn the target unit was in range, you could wound any model in the target unit. This rule adds to that and says that only models within range of the shooting models can be wounded, but uses "any" shooting model. So if you FIRE (not even hit, but fire) a krak missile, anything in a unit up to 48" away can be wounded by bolt pistols

Still a magic bullet syndrome, just now an incredibly ugly, stupid rule

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Makutsu wrote:
Wow, so Vindicare is the king at shooting anything now with the removal of LoS for vindicare~

and shooting changed so you can't take max shooting range on one model and damage the entire unit anymore, this might just make assaulting worth it

Correct on the first, not on the second

The old rule was that,as long as any model inn the target unit was in range, you could wound any model in the target unit. This rule adds to that and says that only models within range of the shooting models can be wounded, but uses "any" shooting model. So if you FIRE (not even hit, but fire) a krak missile, anything in a unit up to 48" away can be wounded by bolt pistols

Still a magic bullet syndrome, just now an incredibly ugly, stupid rule

Oh crud, I missed that angle on the shooting. Time to go YMDC.

I disagree
Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds
from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within
range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e.
half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half
are not)? (p15)
A: No.

How did those bolt pistols shots get into the wound pool if they were not able to shoot in the first place?

 spears wrote:
I disagree
Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds
from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within
range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e.
half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half
are not)? (p15)
A: No.

How did those bolt pistols shots get into the wound pool if they were not able to shoot in the first place?

If half the enemy unit is in range and the other half is not?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/500992.page

Perhaps that thread will explain it better, it is a poorly worded faq however it doesnt allow anything to shoot at models beyond their maximum range.

Its important to note that the faq changes the rules to allocating wounds on page 15/16 not measuring range on page 13.