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I think it's just available direct from Mantic. I teased them a bit about the Limited Edition thing on facebook but yeah, it does make sense.

For one thing, it's pretty much a tournament/league pack. It wouldn't surprise me if the card deck was able to be drawn by the organiser and then be applied against every player for a specific turn.

Something like, *draws card* "Rainstorm, due to the slipperness of the pitch, all dash attempts on turn 8 are 1 dice harder (on top of any event cards being played).

 GrimDork wrote:
Yeah... if I had dread ball stuff... like all of it or more than the base game at least.. I'd probably not mind spending $25 a year to get new cards and an extra MVP thingy. If they do something like that for deadzone I'll be on board for sure. Even if its a whole new team or bz type.

I'm not interested in buying a new metal Deadzone character every year - I don't even plan to get any of the metal characters from the original kickstarter campaign. On the other hand, I would be interested in picking up entirely new, full deadzone factions in the future. Besides the Corporation army, there are a lot of Warpath races featured in Dreadball that I'd like to see make the limbo jump to Deadzone.

That's what I meant. I don't know that I'd want a single character for the pack, I was thinking more along the lines of a faction starter and or booster. I guess what I failed to imply and meant to say was that a faction starter/booster was what I would prefer, even though it would cost more than the DB set.

Another nice expansion/bundle they could (potentially) do would be a new design for the mat along with another BZ type, in the spirit of the DB yearly release, but with more meat on it so to speak.

 Compel wrote:
I think it's just available direct from Mantic. I teased them a bit about the Limited Edition thing on facebook but yeah, it does make sense.

Hm, direct from Mantic is a bit gak. Their minimum order to get free shipping for internationals is more than I'm really likely to spend direct, wheras from Firestorm or Troll Trader I could pick up the pack, plus some paints, brushes, other models, etc and get free shipping.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I think it's just available direct from Mantic. I teased them a bit about the Limited Edition thing on facebook but yeah, it does make sense.

Hm, direct from Mantic is a bit gak. Their minimum order to get free shipping for internationals is more than I'm really likely to spend direct, wheras from Firestorm or Troll Trader I could pick up the pack, plus some paints, brushes, other models, etc and get free shipping.

Find some other upsideowners who want a pack too to qualify for free shipping (or at least to split the costs?)

 GrimDork wrote:
That's what I meant. I don't know that I'd want a single character for the pack, I was thinking more along the lines of a faction starter and or booster. I guess what I failed to imply and meant to say was that a faction starter/booster was what I would prefer, even though it would cost more than the DB set.

Another nice expansion/bundle they could (potentially) do would be a new design for the mat along with another BZ type, in the spirit of the DB yearly release, but with more meat on it so to speak.

I think we agree on all points. A new mat would be particularly nice to alleviate the sameness you get when you put 4 or 6 of the current ones together to make a larger board.

For Deadzone I could see them producing a special faction hero or a mercenary along with a chunk of objective terrain and a special scenario or set of linked scenarios.

^While I would prefer a whole faction, this is likely also acceptable, especially if there are scenarios.

I'm hoping they eventually release a mission/scenario pack like they did for Infinity, supposedly the scenarios add a lot to that games gameplay. Of course, dead zone already has missions beyond simple kill points, but special scenarios with different deployment/variable points/other interesting mods... could add alot down the road.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Find some other upsideowners who want a pack too to qualify for free shipping (or at least to split the costs?)

Good idea in theory, but DB just isn't that popular here.

When in doubt, buy a crazy box along with it :p

Of course, regarding Deadzone expansions, I think the following is likely as a roadmap:

- Asterians and Forge Fathers later this year.
- Martians and Humans from Mars Attacks even later this year. This includes 2 new mat designs and 2 new scenery 'battlezones' - it just depends on whether you think any of this is tonally consistent with Deadzone.
- A second boxed game, possibly without terrain to keep the size down, next year. With Veer-Myn vs. a second popular race.

That would put them at 10 distinct factions (8 of which are 'proper'), which is plenty for a skirmish game like this. I'd be interested to see where they go with narrative campaigns though, as I thought that was the most interesting part of both this and Mars Attacks.

 Compel wrote:
When in doubt, buy a crazy box along with it :p

I've already got more than enough of the Men-At-Arms.

They've just uploaded the rules for the 3 KS backer MVPs to Wargame Vault, links are going out by KS messenger.



They painted up alright I might get round to painting them up at some point.

EDIT: they are now selling them as a pack of 3 on Mantic store as well for those that missed them £14.99 for the 3. Hmmm they should have put these up the other day so people could combine shipping

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/dreadball/product/manticorp-showboaters-all-stars-mvp-pack-3-figures.html

and the Azure Forest pack will be available to retailers as well.

This set will be available retailers from the 27th January and includes the new A'teo MVP and Trophy.

Interesting backer funded minis. The half-cyborg guy is alright I guess. The kid riding the t-rex is pretty hilarious. Does the guy on the top right look like someone famous or something? He kind of looks like just another human (no helmet ofc) player, unless there's a notable person he resembles (and I'm unaware of).

The details on the kid (face, maybe hands?) seem a little soft but the t-rex and other two seem alright.

Backers paid ($4k to $5k each) to have these made - the head coach, MVP and Man of the Match pledge levels. They where designed by the backers the concept art is in the rules download I assume the first two are based of the backers own likeness I know the guy who had Drake made had his kid used as the basis for the rider. The minis - faces anyway aren't a patch on the concept art and personally I wouldn't have signed off on them as they are if I'd paid $5,000 for them. Plus as I mentioned when I got them they are out of scale with alot of the other minis possibily as they have been cast in metal but they may have been sculpted with restic casting in mind and shrinkage was allowed for which didn't happen once cast in metal.

I kind of love the kid riding the dinosaur. Thats pretty awesome.

I quite like the kid on the trex. In terms of the concept rather than the sculpt.

Not a fan of the others though. Really dont like any of the faces.

Anyone run across this yet?:

Ronnie Renton posts his yearly blog on the direction of the company and let’s slip a little nugget: DreadBall Xtreme is coming to Kickstarter in February!

“We thirst for more [DreadBall] – more teams, more ways of playing, more ways to pick and individualise our own rosters – and for getting out from under the bright lights of the the DreadBall arenas.
We want to play in the darkest corners of the Corporation, where anything goes and money talks! We want to take DreadBall to a deeper and nastier place. We hinted at it with the very last stretch goal of
the first campaign – Blaine – and gave it a page in the Season 3 rulebook. Yes, we want to play DreadBall Xtreme! We hope you’re as excited about the idea as we are, and we can proudly announce that
it will be coming to a Kickstarter near you in February! Let the violence begin…”

So Dreadball Extreme KS coming at the end of February possibly early March, I don't play dreadball myself so more time to save up for the warpath KS, which I'd
assume is going to happen late Q3 early Q4 if this KS is happening so soon.

Here's a teaser of the Asterians/Cylons from the 128th KS update for Deadzone..

By Your Command...

Hmm. Now that the second DZ survey is approaching, I'm trying to figure out how whole hog I want to go...

Anyone trying to get rid of any Deadzone while I decide?

The Asterian looks nice unlike the promo backer figs from Dreadball... not a fan of those sculpts.

Wish I knew if I liked everything to know if i wanted to go whole hog or not. Kind of already did, but more terrain is potentially tempting. Hopefully they keep the second survey open for at least a month, or they won't be getting any additional funds from me, too too soon. And I guess I better hope they send my belated box in time for me to fill out the missing parts survey, or something. Oh well.

Glad they're doing the DBX kickstarter in feb, will let me save up some funds for other stuff. Maybe a token backing just for support .

Cypher looks pretty cool, at least. Hopefully the hard plastic for the plague zombies worked out and they get the zombies, forgeguard, cyphers, and peacekeepers done in time to send out for the second wave.

 Rolt wrote:
Anyone run across this yet?:
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So Dreadball Extreme KS coming at the end of February possibly early March, I don't play dreadball myself so more time to save up for the warpath KS, which I'd
assume is going to happen late Q3 early Q4 if this KS is happening so soon.

Yay, another KS.

Nice the Cypher looks great so far, might change the head for a more sleeker design.

@Grim
Yeah I think were gonna have tons of time to save up the penny's for the Warpath KS, keep in mind not only will we have the DBX KS but also a possible Dwarf Kings hold KS this year.
Mantic have hinted towards this a few time in their podcast that they intend to kickstart a special edition/re-release of DKH which will put it in a similar vein to Deadzone's relation
to Warpath, an entry level game in to the wider KoW universe. Its all good, personally I'm much happier to hear Mantic taking their time with Warpath than rushing it out the door.

Yeah. After seeing the kind of hard plastic they used for the MaA compared to the renedra undead sprues... they can wait to do WP until that contract runs out as far as I'm concerned. The maa hard plastic seems closer to the new restic than gw/renedra plastic. Kind of hard/brittle.

DKH may get some of my monies but probably just for the basic/sweet spot. I know I said that about MA but fantasy holds less sway for me.

Oh there's a mini KoW kickstarter to come as well, even more time to try and get wp right. I just hope the resulting rulebook comes with a bunch of fluff though that seems like a thing that gets left aside in a kickstarter.

Does James still post here? Or was that just damage control?
I'd really like to get the message to Mantic just how poorly I rate my experiences with both Dreadball and now Deadzone.
The quality of the miniatures is not what I'd expect from a retail company. Soft detail to the point of being featureless, parts that don't fit, the worst mold lines I have seen on miniatures in almost 30 years in this hobby.
There are large items missing from both and Mantic have been very slow to respond. The odd component I could understand, but entire items? A playing mat?
The constant spam. Updates are for the kickstarter we backed, not for you to advertise your next release.

I was really impressed with my first Mantic purchases (undead), the quality of the sculpts and the casting was excellent. When do we get the Mantic that made those kits back?

Joyboozer wrote:
Does James still post here? Or was that just damage control?
I'd really like to get the message to Mantic just how poorly I rate my experiences with both Dreadball and now Deadzone.
The quality of the miniatures is not what I'd expect from a retail company. Soft detail to the point of being featureless, parts that don't fit, the worst mold lines I have seen on miniatures in almost 30 years in this hobby.
There are large items missing from both and Mantic have been very slow to respond. The odd component I could understand, but entire items? A playing mat?
The constant spam. Updates are for the kickstarter we backed, not for you to advertise your next release.

I was really impressed with my first Mantic purchases (undead), the quality of the sculpts and the casting was excellent. When do we get the Mantic that made those kits back?

I'm sure if you ask nicely they'll send you some replacements...

Joyboozer wrote:
Does James still post here? Or was that just damage control?
I'd really like to get the message to Mantic just how poorly I rate my experiences with both Dreadball and now Deadzone.
The quality of the miniatures is not what I'd expect from a retail company. Soft detail to the point of being featureless, parts that don't fit, the worst mold lines I have seen on miniatures in almost 30 years in this hobby.
There are large items missing from both and Mantic have been very slow to respond. The odd component I could understand, but entire items? A playing mat?
The constant spam. Updates are for the kickstarter we backed, not for you to advertise your next release.

I was really impressed with my first Mantic purchases (undead), the quality of the sculpts and the casting was excellent. When do we get the Mantic that made those kits back?

You could always go the the Mantic forums and let folks know how you feel.

Just kidding. I mentioned how poor the Marauder Pyro figure is and was basically told I should be thankful for the privilege of getting to assemble it.

Not by Mantic, they don't seem to bother to address issues folks bring up on the forums (that I have read), but by some of the fans.

 CptJake wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Does James still post here? Or was that just damage control?
I'd really like to get the message to Mantic just how poorly I rate my experiences with both Dreadball and now Deadzone.
The quality of the miniatures is not what I'd expect from a retail company. Soft detail to the point of being featureless, parts that don't fit, the worst mold lines I have seen on miniatures in almost 30 years in this hobby.
There are large items missing from both and Mantic have been very slow to respond. The odd component I could understand, but entire items? A playing mat?
The constant spam. Updates are for the kickstarter we backed, not for you to advertise your next release.

I was really impressed with my first Mantic purchases (undead), the quality of the sculpts and the casting was excellent. When do we get the Mantic that made those kits back?

You could always go the the Mantic forums and let folks know how you feel.

Just kidding. I mentioned how poor the Marauder Pyro figure is and was basically told I should be thankful for the privilege of getting to assemble it.

Not by Mantic, they don't seem to bother to address issues folks bring up on the forums (that I have read), but by some of the fans.

I had some slight warping on the Marauder Pyro but nothing that wasn't fixable...

I haven't had any problems with mold lines or missing bits in any order (KS or not) from Mantic. Either I'm getting lucky or others are getting very unlucky.