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I'm just so glad we're avoiding another men-at-arms thing.



Note the slide-core tooling on the legs to create a ball and socket join for the torso, and compatibility with the KoW zombies. Hard plastic *can* have undercuts.

I do think, to some extent the sheer amount of noise on the topic that the internet (and especially Dakka) makes on the topic has pushed Mantic in the right direction. Without that persistent and repeated request for quality sprues who knows what the zombie sprue might have looked like?

Mantic do listen and try to do what they can, and eventually they get it sorted. It has always been the case with the company, they land on their feet.

Regarding the Zombie guns and hands 2 of the arms have no hand I think the hand might be molded to the guns at least it was in an earlier version.

You can also see they split the "zombie eating guts" torso into 2 parts as well - 2nd body from top with plug hole in it and 3rd piece in the centre row.

EDIT ah 1 of the guns goes on the back - the top gun has a peg to insert on the torso - so it's not meant to be held in the hand that means if you buy 4 sets plus your extra sprue you get 17 zombies holding a gun one handed and 17 with it on their back.

Quick semi-related note since clear plastic bases were discussed earlier - I've just had a chat with Renedra and they're quite interested in/ curious about the idea of running their 25mm round base sprue in clear plastic (although they're so busy at the moment it'll probably have to wait until after Salute to experiment with it)

Would anyone here be interested in buying something like that from them?

I've been inspired by GrimDork's project log and a similar topic in the DZ section of the Mantic forums to base *everything* sci-fi/ skirmish on clear plastic from now on, and I'm loving it.. the only holdup is the expense of laser cut acrylic (and it's not the ideal material either, scratches too easy, have to peel off smelly burnt plastic film from each side). Quite keen to buy around 1000 clear round bases myself (prep for the WP KS ).

The zombie sprue looks like a step in the right direction, since they're broken up into more pieces and don't have those stupid bases. They could still improve things by doubling up on cavities per "box" since they currently have zero options for arms and the sculpts themselves are still Plague crap, but they're getting there.

Well I obviously love clear acrylics. What's this about smelly burnt parts?

I've been taking my photos on sedition wars play mats and it totally enforces my love for clear bases. Wherever you go, there you are definitely applies to the bases.

I really like the thin bases though, I would have to see normal/standard clear bases in action. That said... I will be needing more so I'm potentially interested (though across the pond).

I think plague get it best when making a force from the ks. Zombies mean HP troop options, a lot of big scary characters and elites from the s2 and terrortons. And it should be reasonably easy to scrounge up some gribblies to round out a unit of plague swarms and any old mortar looking bit with a couple of s3...

Agree re thin acrylic bases being great. Really good way of the mini looking part of the environment!

Have to say the zombies look great as does the enforcer on bike! Awesome!

Well, sad that the FF's are back to resin plastic, but I pledged for them back when they were, so it is hardly going to change much about it. And vehicles going to two for $20 means I now have four Iron Ancestors coming my way (among a load of others). So I'm not too perturbed by any of this.

The zombies look fantastic as well.

Not decided on what (if anything) I'll be adding for the second survey. At the very least the new FF vehicle, maybe a few connector sprues and perhaps a few more packs of the plastic Peacekeepers (and maybe some more Enforcers in general). That and whatever any of my friends end up ordering (it has become fairly popular with the rest of the group, so much that we've played it several weeks in a row. That's a rare thing for my group).

 Ronin_eX wrote:
.... And vehicles going to two for $20 means I now have four Iron Ancestors coming my way (among a load of others). ...

Iron Ancestors are still $20 for 1 only the Strider changed to $20 for 2 as they changed it to PVC restcic the Iron Ancestor is

Forge Father Iron Ancestor (Deadzone Version) - $20 (Resin Plastic Torso, Resin Arms and Backpack)

 pretre wrote:
Dammit, no option for additional pledge levels. (i.e. no '+1 Strike team package')

Now that is interesting. Especially since I'm certain they said that everything would be available again in the survey. Oversight, or more Mantic Bait-and-Switch?

All the models are available - not all of the deals.

I was expecting this, tbh.

Anyone know if they're allowing people to add on individual figures in the comments section? Losing the ability to buy single figures would sting a bit for people that wanted to, say, bulk out a force of Rebs Kraaws etc. Without the ability to buy figures individually, customizing your force will get very expensive very fast (and basically make some force configurations financially out of reach altogether).

Wow. Those plague zombies look fantastic. I think the Asterians are looking pretty lame, but those zombies are a real home run.

If the enforcers and peacekeeprs come out that good in hard plastic, Mantic could very well be crossing the "almost" line.

 Souleater wrote:
All the models are available - not all of the deals.
I was expecting this, tbh.

Yeah, letter of the word, but not the spirit.

Ah well, I might grab a few more figures like the Zombies, but looks like I'll be skipping DZ as a game in that case. It also makes it easier to not spend more money on Mars Attacks - I think I'll skip getting the $300 one-click and buying a ton of scenery as extras and just spend all my credit on terrain. Saves me from getting a ton of figures in restic, I guess!

I'm doomed. I forced myself not to get the resin add on terrain last time, and it's back as an option.

I'm getting a ton of figures in restic. My approach will be to assemble things and then paint them. I don't get a lot of games (read: none) around here at the moment, so I can go through and build things for the purpose of painting them, rather than churning out the whole retail box or strike team in as few sittings as possible so I can get gaming.

Which is probably the only reason I won't be going mad when my stuff finally does arrive and there's enough models to choke multiple consecutive beasts of burden. Hell, by the time I'm done I'll probably have scrapped off enough restic/plastic to choke a small breed dog. What a way to go =/

@Solkan I saw that :( I forced myself to drop the AW bundles of awesome and amazing for a larger number of accessory sprues (probably still less $ overall). I have the fact that battle systems has a lot of cool terrain for scattering about... but I'm still sorely tempted.

The thing that's really doomed me is that I know two people who got some of the AW bundles, so now I've seen how nice they are.

 DaveC wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
.... And vehicles going to two for $20 means I now have four Iron Ancestors coming my way (among a load of others). ...

Iron Ancestors are still $20 for 1 only the Strider changed to $20 for 2 as they changed it to PVC restcic the Iron Ancestor is

Forge Father Iron Ancestor (Deadzone Version) - $20 (Resin Plastic Torso, Resin Arms and Backpack)

Dang it, oh well, teach me for not reading in to it better.

And the AW terrain is fantastic, I can't recommend it enough. Give in to the call, your wallet will forgive you.

But its like 130 somethimg for one of each =/ we'll see how taxes go and how lonely my bzs are feeling....

Aw man, I was gonna get a couple more Ripper Suits just because, but we can't order them individually this time around, and I don't want a whole other booster pack to go with them. Guess I have to hope the ripper suits come separately in blisters at retail.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Quick semi-related note since clear plastic bases were discussed earlier - I've just had a chat with Renedra and they're quite interested in/ curious about the idea of running their 25mm round base sprue in clear plastic (although they're so busy at the moment it'll probably have to wait until after Salute to experiment with it)

Would anyone here be interested in buying something like that from them?

I would buy at least 500 of them immediately. 25mm, 40mm, 60mm.


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I think the most exciting thing about this is how great the space zombies look... and they are a mixture of hard lines and organics.

This means Mantic has a clear pathway for the Warpath release to be huge. and possibly at Space Zombie prices.

scarletsquig 502i957 6496889 77386c402334cf342362cc45ec26b172.png wrote:Quick semi-related note since clear plastic bases were discussed earlier - I've just had a chat with Renedra and they're quite interested in/ curious about the idea of running their 25mm round base sprue in clear plastic (although they're so busy at the moment it'll probably have to wait until after Salute to experiment with it)

Would anyone here be interested in buying something like that from them?

I've been inspired by GrimDork's project log and a similar topic in the DZ section of the Mantic forums to base *everything* sci-fi/ skirmish on clear plastic from now on, and I'm loving it.. the only holdup is the expense of laser cut acrylic (and it's not the ideal material either, scratches too easy, have to peel off smelly burnt plastic film from each side). Quite keen to buy around 1000 clear round bases myself (prep for the WP KS ).

Hm, I'm not sure - While I theoretically think clear bases might look good, I'm afraid there'll be ugly misting from the glue. Did you have any problems with that? Furthermore, I usually like to pin my models to the base, so I don't know how that'll look.


On the other hand - peeling off plastic film is to me one of the MAJOR assets of laser-cut acrylic. I love doing that as much as other people on the internet love popping bubble wrap - so maybe I should simply buy a thousand of those just for fun!

^ That's one of the other benefits that a proper clear polystyrene sprue would offer, besides a lower price point.

Acrylic fogs with superglue (unless you're very careful and use a small amount), with polystyrene you could use plastic glue which doesn't. Well, on hard plastics, anyway.

Thanks for the feedback everyone, had some PMs, feel free to send me more if a clear round sprue is something you'd jump on (don't want to divert this thread too much) and eventually I'll collect them up and quote you all in a big email.. at the moment the main issue for them would be volume, they would need to make a bulk purchase of crystal HIPs pellets to make it work, and they don't tool anything else in the material currently so they would need to be sure of good sales first.

Anyway, back to the Mantic stuff, it definitely does bode well for the Warpath KS that's coming later this year.

If they have $50k stretch goals per each one of those sprues, and sell them at the same ridiculous price point (almost 50 cents per mini! what more could you want? ), maybe throwing in a free sprue of 5 each time as the stretch reward... it will go nuts.

But yes, they do need to triple their customer service staff before then!

I imagine it's a bit nuts for the company at the moment since they're also moving their premises into an abandoned hospital which needs a complete refit of all the plumbing and electrics.

 scarletsquig wrote:

Acrylic fogs with superglue (unless you're very careful and use a small amount), with polystyrene you could use plastic glue which doesn't. Well, on hard plastics, anyway.

My experience from making mistakes on hobby kit models of aircraft tells me that plastic cement can and does fog up clear polystyrene, which means you would need to be just as careful as you would have using superglue on acrylic.

 Alpharius wrote:
Thanks Dave - I guess I'll roll the dice on them.

This:

* 2 Corporation/Plague/Rebs Striders- $20
Plastic Figure with options to build 3 variants.

Makes me nervous though, as we know those things aren't 'plastic' in the sense that everyone NORMALLY uses that word.

I promise you its not everyone, it is a small subset of wargamers who don't consider PVC a plastic.

To the rest of the world plastic covers more than grey injection molded hard polystyrene.

 dragqueeninspace wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Thanks Dave - I guess I'll roll the dice on them.

This:

* 2 Corporation/Plague/Rebs Striders- $20
Plastic Figure with options to build 3 variants.

Makes me nervous though, as we know those things aren't 'plastic' in the sense that everyone NORMALLY uses that word.

I promise you its not everyone, it is a small subset of wargamers who don't consider PVC a plastic.

To the rest of the world plastic covers more than grey injection molded hard polystyrene.

OK?

But you will concede the point that the target customers for Mantic, and the vast majority of readers here on Dakka Dakka don't think of 'restic' or 'PVC' when they see the word "Plastic" though, right?

 Alpharius wrote:

 dragqueeninspace wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Thanks Dave - I guess I'll roll the dice on them.

This:

* 2 Corporation/Plague/Rebs Striders- $20
Plastic Figure with options to build 3 variants.

Makes me nervous though, as we know those things aren't 'plastic' in the sense that everyone NORMALLY uses that word.

I promise you its not everyone, it is a small subset of wargamers who don't consider PVC a plastic.

To the rest of the world plastic covers more than grey injection molded hard polystyrene.

OK?

But you will concede the point that the target customers for Mantic, and the vast majority of readers here on Dakka Dakka don't think of 'restic' or 'PVC' when they see the word "Plastic" though, right?

I can't really comment on dakka dakka readers word association results but what really matters is what they understand by the term. Personally I think of shampoo bottles or plastic bags. I don't however consider it a negative that mantic models are not polyethylene or assume they are.

Will you concede that you're just trying to be a smartass?

In the context of miniature models, most of us use the word for material that can be glued with plastic cement.

We do actually know that other sorts of plastic are also plastic.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Will you concede that you're just trying to be a smartass?

In the context of miniature models, most of us use the word for material that can be glued with plastic cement.

We do actually know that other sorts of plastic are also plastic.

Pretty much spot on, I think!

If you have some future floor wax, apply it to the areas which have gone cloudy from the glue and it fixes it right back up

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Will you concede that you're just trying to be a smartass?

In the context of miniature models, most of us use the word for material that can be glued with plastic cement.

We do actually know that other sorts of plastic are also plastic.

I am trying to be a smartass but I'm principally trying to point out the originally quoted post is factually incorrect and that makes it an very unfair criticism to make.