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...which is the dz mech again - big one, right?

Yar. Makes sense not to throw it on the survey if they have any reservations at all. Not even sure I could use extras even if they are offered.

I see your point - for DZ players. WP/proxyK players could use a bunch of those sprues without the added expense of the restic specialists.

 GrimDork wrote:
Yar. Makes sense not to throw it on the survey if they have any reservations at all. Not even sure I could use extras even if they are offered.

I agree, smart decision on their part. I'm sure War Path (or whatever the 40k-ish game is called) Enforcer deals will have these sprues included at a reasonable price once Mantic gets them cranking out the way they want them. The DZ folks interested in getting a ton are probably doing so for the Big Game anyway so waiting to get them right to offer them really shouldn't hurt anyone.

Big one. Definitely bigger, should uncomfortably seat a pilot now. Still not buying 4 inches. Maybe. Big mech's running pose is right at 2 inches. Well, strider should at least top 3 in an action pose and that's pretty solid ml.

 Bolognesus wrote:
...which is the dz mech again - big one, right?

Yep

 DaveC wrote:
I wonder how it will affect the Enforcer booster it's $20 for 5 minis most of which will be built from the hard plastics if it works out I wonder if you will still get 2 sprues (10 minis) instead as the HP sprue only has 1 shield.

yeah iirc they said you'd get enough sprues to replicate at the minimum what was offered originally in restic. so that would translate to getting 2+ sprues but would not surprise me if they threw in more.

Deadzone Secret Weapon Terrain Board news

DEADZONE PREVIEW & SHIPPING
Deadzone ™ TileDeadzone ™ Tile



This is the official Deadzone ™ tile for Mantic Games. It is approved, and they're packing it now.

Backers who ordered ONLY the Deadzone tile will see their orders shipped first. This is a reflection of our agreement with Mantic Games to get the tile shipped in time for the final wave of the Deadzone Kickstarter campaign pledges. If we couldn't get them the tile before March, they'd have to refund everyone... and that would be bad. Very bad.

Since Mantic Games is going to be shipping THEIR tiles in March, we're going to do the same -- but, again, only to those backers who ordered ONLY the Deadzone tile sets.

We will focus the rest of our efforts into getting all of the other orders out as quickly as possible.

But wave 2 isn't shipping in March as the survey is still open until the end of the month?

I'd say MisterJustin was told to get them to Mantic by March or deals off they will most likely ship with wave 2 when ever that happens unless Mantic are planning to ship these separately but I can't see them covering the costs on another round of shipping it's possible though as the $60 cost did include shipping at least on the Secret Weapon KS so MisterJustin might be picking up the shipping bill.

Mantic are doing EU fulfilment for Secret Weapon (the whole KS), they've probably got something worked out.

I ordered mine on the SW KS so should be getting it in March.. I only ordered the DZ board so I should be one of the first to get it. Might even ship out before Mantic ships the rest in the second wave.

Really looking forward to it since there's a local campaign starting in March that I'm hoping to be able to get to. I'll be painting it sandstone simply to make a change from the usual grey.

One really rather cool feature of that DZ board... the recesses in the plastic appear to be at the same angle as the edge of a piece of deadzone terrain... so in theory the building should be able to slot into the board.

 scarletsquig wrote:

One really rather cool feature of that DZ board... the recesses in the plastic appear to be at the same angle as the edge of a piece of deadzone terrain... so in theory the building should be able to slot into the board.

I noticed that. That's going to be really spiffy, assuming they got the dimensions exactly right.

...and you glued your buildings exactly,precisely, 100.000% right. Otherwise it's mainly going to launch buildings crammed into those crevices straight up every time you look at them funny due to all that tension.

It's a hard plastic board, so potentially you could glue the buildings to the board and create a sweet setup that is still modular because the board itself is made of 1x1 tiles.

I think this + the DZ terrain could end up being the easiest modular city board solution on the market, especially if you made sure it was geomorphic so that all the streets lined up.

The ruins battlezone pieces would look especially great glued in-line with the crater so that where the wall ends the crater begins.

 scarletsquig wrote:
It's a hard plastic board, so potentially you could glue the buildings to the board and create a sweet setup that is still modular because the board itself is made of 1x1 tiles.

I think this + the DZ terrain could end up being the easiest modular city board solution on the market, especially if you made sure it was geomorphic so that all the streets lined up.

The ruins battlezone pieces would look especially great glued in-line with the crater so that where the wall ends the crater begins.

Mmm... consider that idea stolen

 GrimDork wrote:
^ but playing devils advocate here, we haven't seen sprues or heard much at all about those yet right?

Yeah, that's why I was having the "so.. what's all that about again?" query.


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 DaveC wrote:
I wonder how it will affect the Enforcer booster it's $20 for 5 minis most of which will be built from the hard plastics if it works out I wonder if you will still get 2 sprues (10 minis) instead as the HP sprue only has 1 shield.

I guess we're going to see if Mantic want to go the "slightly cheaper than GW" route, or the "big armies - cheap" route for WarPath and related games when the hard plastic starts to return.

I'll cross my fingers for the later though if they get some proper fluff going I'd be inclined towards the manticverse even if they were just barely cheaper. I like corporation marines and enforcers, and several other wp aesthetics. And the MV isn't 100% hard SciFi but its closer than the sci fantasy that is 40k. And no insult meant, 40k fluff is somewhat of a draw for me, I like it. I'm just getting to the point where I appreciate my space soldiers and wizards with a larger degree of separation. Oh and the rules. I know wp1.0/2.0 both have some issues but I almost always hear good things about KoW. Fast simple rules will definitely swing my vote.

The last time Mantic had a price adjustment on the Warpath hard plastics, it was to reduce the price by 25%.

I'm certain that you're all going to be really pleased with the WP KS when it comes along. I am fairly confident that it will beat Reaper Bones' record.

Also, entirely OT, +1 to Azazel's custom title.

 scarletsquig wrote:
The last time Mantic had a price adjustment on the Warpath hard plastics, it was to reduce the price by 25%.

I'm certain that you're all going to be really pleased with the WP KS when it comes along. I am fairly confident that it will beat Reaper Bones' record.

Also, entirely OT, +1 to Azazel's custom title.

If they design the Veer-myn to be like guards and Reek from Dreadball and in hard plastic, I'm in for a huge amount.

I won't be going in for 1 or 2k when the Warpath KS hits like the rest of you nutters, but it'll still feel like Christmas when it hits.

 judgedoug wrote:
I just posted a question on their FB page asking for a clarification of the current situation of the hard plastic Enforcers and will post their response when it comes.

Doug Craig
hey Mantic - is there any update on the hard plastic Enforcers? my first survey still has tons of restic Enforcers including individual poses, and I'm holding off on completing my second survey until the hard plastic Enforcers are finalized. you've previously mentioned that, assuming hard plastic Enforcers are good, the basic restic poses will get replaced with hard plastic. is that still the plan? if they are good tools and Mantic will release them, people like myself (who got several individual restic Enforcer poses) will get to swap for the hard plastic? and will the hard plastic sprue then become available on the survey to purchase?
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Mantic Games

Hi Doug,

The most up-to-date information regarding Hard Plastic Enforcers is here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/deadzone-the-sci-fi-miniatures-board-game/posts/734724

We're still working out the details, but it will all be finalised before the survey deadline, including details of what will happen if you ordered individuals and how to get your hands on more sprues

Thanks!

I have a rather juicy bit of verified rumour to offer this thread. Really, really rather juicy indeed.

But, in advance, I have to stress it is what Mantic are *planning*. And of course, that may change (as you're no doubt well aware of at this point and may or may not have complained at length about bait-and-switch/ horrible comms/ Ronnie personally running over your dog).

So, while I'll pass on the rumour I have to stress that this is non-official, non-binding, I am not a spokesperson for the company, I do not make the tea there, I am not secretly Fisty Glue Man's rentboy etc. etc. etc.

Do not get mad and write a 20 paragraph rant if it doesn't actually happen.

Especially do not post said 20 paragraph rant in this thread, calling me out specifically. If you do I reserve the right to reply with the traditional wet trout slap response as is traditional per internet protocol.

Okay, lengthy disclaimer over, here is the news/ rumour:



Very, very exciting!

Oh my. I'm down - but that's likely 2015, eh? I'm fine with a year+ for Mantic to work out production, and hopefully launch the KS with some test sprues already done.

Sadly, this will only result in more "then why are they doing restic FF/Asterians now?" comments.

@judgedoug: Q4 this year, hopefully. Might be 2015 though, it just depends on how things go. DBX and KoW 2.0 (not entirely hard plastic that one, just the infantry) are the Kickstaterters that will ship this year. And they want to only start the Warpath KS after KoW 2.0 is shipping.

Good on them! So the kickkstarter either won't produce elites and characters, or they'll be HP? Cool. If it times out when I have monies they'll probably get more than a little from me.

^ Unsure about that. Think you might be right with the former, although it is worth noting that peacekeepers and forge guard are elites and have been considered for hard plastic, so its entirely possible that just plain every unit will be hard plastic. Even I will be amazed if they do characters in the material, I guess it's possible they might include "character bitz" on the sprues.. or possibly just in-house produce them all in metal as a standard non-KS release. I don't mind either way, really.

It'll definitely be razor-focused on masses of infantry and vehicles for all eight of the Warpath armies. Same format as the zombie sprue for all infantry, 5-man sprues. Entirely possible that Mantic will produce more new sci-fi kits than GW in 2015, they are really ramping up the company, moving to much larger new premises and moving things up a gear.

"Character Bits" on the sprues would be the smart play - and awesome!

If Mantic is unable to to hard plastics for FF and Asterians for Deadzone, I'm OK with waiting until the WP KS.

I just wanna know up front. I'm not adding a bunch to this one anyway without the hard plastic FF but I won't be pissy if they don't get made. Just hold off until the WP kickstarter. At this point I'm probably adding another 8 Battlezones and some striders for conversions (since at $10 each they are super ridiculous).

Yeah +1 character bits. And versatile sprues, if they could just moderately expand the marines sprue to incorporate vets and rangers as well, and do that across the factions.

Wonder what you would do to make w character without gimping a squad? If you turn one of 5-20 into something separate.. got 4 guys laying around. What do?

Yeah, $10 for something dreadnought equivalent... awesome. Or well maybe they're more like sentinels or something given they come in 3's for warpath... still.