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 GrimDork wrote:
Which one is Eclipse?

So hmm, that's definitely a decent amount of stuff from what Galgaroth says. Not sure I need another command sprue of orx though... More to consider so thanks for posting about it

Eclipse is the thing that looks like a wereshewolf (tho I gather "fox" is more accurate) that's visible behind the lizard rider:

I totally forgot about her. Huh, I may have to add her to my pledge then.

I think Eclipse kinda passed under everyone's radar TBH Barzam, the concept art for was kinda unimpressive go figure she made such a good sculpt.

In fact I'm really impressed by everything shown so far, I wasn't expecting to see so much new (and worth buying) stuff, thanks for all the pictures guys (and gals)
look forward to more.

Ahh OK now I remember. Looks pretty cool. I hope the new PM is as nice as they say.. otherwise I'm leaving my rampage alone.

Some more pics from the Open Day, courtesy of a pathfinder, including some stuff we haven't seen in other pics, like this production sculpt of a Mars Attacks human:




Keep in mind that's a giant pic and the mini is tiny. Things like facial detail and the kneepad rim are there, it seems to be about the same as restic for detail.

That is pretty damn good, actually - even at RRP.

First soldier's gun is a tad bendy, but not bad at all. I can definitely work with those guys. Either they trimmed the mold lines or those came out way better than the martians.

Strider bits look good. Those, and the other picture, make me glad I splurged for six I'm glad I stuck it out and kept my Cypher order, those look pretty nice too. That peacekeeper with the shield looks like a fugging tank, I love it.

I'm.... not as sure about the pathfinder on the bike. I really liked the concept art they finally divulged, but I need more angles. The walking version looks ok, sometimes it's nice to have snipers repositioning, especially given how strong they are with a pistol in deadzone. The one on the bike though... If it comes to me that way, I'm gonna have to carefully saw off and reposition the head (unless i'm lucky and it's separate). She's aiming from her shoulder and looking like 70-90 degrees away from her supposed target. The single shoulder guard is a nice idea... but you'd think if she was going to have a pad, it would be on the side that's facing the enemy, or her left shoulder given her handedness.

Still, impressed overall, and I would like to thank everyone who has taken, or found, and shared pictures Hopefully I can return the favor come Gencon!

Liking the production sculpts of the Mars Attacks figures. I did not back that but it looks like backers will be getting a nice lot of bang for their buck.

I do not know if it is the resin colour or what but I am not overly keen on the Enforcer (the variety of which she is escapes me) with sniper rifle on unibike thing looks a bit off.

After seeing the Striders I am bit concerned with the game now as I can assume the game may end up like a re-creation of Titanfall..

Can anyone assure me that these could be balanced?

Although I do love the Peacekeeper armour for the enforcers Will get some of them when they are released

I'm getting a very Zombicide feel from the Mars Attacks stuff which is kind of where they are aiming it anyway much more self contained board game they even cross promoted hopefully the soldiers scale well with Zombicide too as I can definitely see myself doing a mod for both games to use both sets of minis.

 DaveC wrote:
I'm getting a very Zombicide feel from the Mars Attacks stuff which is kind of where they are aiming it anyway much more self contained board game they even cross promoted hopefully the soldiers scale well with Zombicide too as I can definitely see myself doing a mod for both games to use both sets of minis.

Same here, I'm planning on picking up a tablescapes city board to use it and the MA! buildings/terrain for 3d Zombicide games.

Man those plastic Peacekeepers are butch as hell.

 happygolucky wrote:
After seeing the Striders I am bit concerned with the game now as I can assume the game may end up like a re-creation of Titanfall..

Can anyone assure me that these could be balanced?

Although I do love the Peacekeeper armour for the enforcers Will get some of them when they are released

Isn't the idea more or less that heavy/anti-tank weaponry is suddenly about to become a lot more interesting to bring along?

 Bolognesus wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
After seeing the Striders I am bit concerned with the game now as I can assume the game may end up like a re-creation of Titanfall..

Can anyone assure me that these could be balanced?

Although I do love the Peacekeeper armour for the enforcers Will get some of them when they are released

Isn't the idea more or less that heavy/anti-tank weaponry is suddenly about to become a lot more interesting to bring along?

Fair do's just I hope the game does not become "take a strider or you lose" game that's all, I just got the game for my birthday and I don't want a repeat from 40k in terms of balance for big things..

Nice to see the female enforcer printed.

Glad we managed to pull mantic away from the really stupid only male fighters cliche.

Yeah she's a step in the right direction for sure, and virtually zero cheesecake to boot. I just need to fix the angle of her head on the bike...

I have a feeling striders will be tough, but at the same time a rocket or H.E.W. beam to the face is probably gonna put them in a world of hurt. Extra structure (did that even make it in?) might help but I don't think there's a repair mechanic. Walkers are probably like the PK captain and the 1st gen/plague terraton, best left to the code 13 missions or you'll not have room for objective oriented infantry.

Almost sad I only ordered 10 peacekeepers :p

Ok, cools

Think I may get one and convert it to have the chainsaw as a bayonet for the gun

Man... even my my honed eBay sniping skills I'm still 4000something in the queueueue to get my tickets processed for Gencon. Hoping to get into the DZ campaign, there weren't any cool news seminars for mantic so I'll just have to take lots of pictures at their table and see if anything new is mentioned or for sale.

I'd like to echo the thanks expressed here for all the great pictures and links. Generally speaking, this is a very exciting preview of what's coming, but there's so much stuff being put forward it's hard to know what to comment on!

So in no particular order, some random thoughts:

Mars Attacks:

I'm encouraged that the Mars Attacks figures will be worth playing in my Deadzone games, and that my favorite models - the Science Division - will turn out as well as I hoped. I'm quite happy with most of my Deadzone miniatures, and excited by what's to come, but I think there's a decent chance that my Sci Div Deadzone force, augmented by the retro stompy robot, saucer, and giant bugs, will turn out to be my favorite.

If Mars Attacks really does turn into Mantic's top seller, a Mars Attacks expansion Kickstarter will go from "not a chance, Martian Boy!" to a dead certainty.

Furthermore, if Mars Attacks becomes a kind of base model for Mantic's future licensed skirmish games, we could end up with Deadzone cross-over-palooza. Deadzone becoming a kind of tabletop skirmish GURPS, with a full Warpath universe line, and cross-over potential with other properties for those who want it. I doubt they'll ever do a property I'd be dying to see, like Daleks and Cybermen, Dead Space, or Cylons. But I had zero interest in Mars Attacks and they got me in on that one anyway.

Fantasy Skirmish with 3-D castle terrain:

A logical, lucrative idea. I won't be buying in, as fantasy is not really my thing, and the box of Descent I bought to play with the family is more than enough for me. But they're wise to do it.

Dreadball Xtreme:

Eclipse does look a lot better than I imagined. At first, I thought "I can't believe they put that much awesome into a KS exclusive!" Then I realized she's not exclusive. I wonder how she'll end up being packaged for retail? Included in the base set? In the future, I think Mantic should consider using can't miss minis like this, rather than blander minis like Ardia, as their exclusives. Eclipse would have done a better job getting fence sitters in, in my opinion.

I hope all the sponsors are available to purchase individually on the PM, or as a bundle. I'm not planning on buying into DBX - I've got to be very, very careful with my funds in case Warpath or DZ 2 debuts this year - but I would love to get my hands on all the sponsors to use as civilians in Deadzone.

There's been no recent comment by Mantic regarding how or if they'll manage stretch goals on the pledge manager. It's supposed to debut this weekend, and I have no doubt that the promise of additional stretch goals would up their sales. Things like Phantasm and the Spider, which make Rampage a better deal, should be presented as within reach.

Deadzone: I have a good idea of how much of a pain trimming the Asterians is going to be, and it will take forever, but I will do it, and the final result will look excellent. Forge Guard look great, too. And yes, very glad I ordered Striders now.

I have to agree with you guys that the Enforcer sniper on the bike needs to have her head examined, then repositioned so she's aiming that gun of hers. Can't fathom why they posed her this way.

Project Pandora: They were probably just clearing backstock, and the 3-D deadzone Pandora boards at the open day were small and disappointing, but in I think Deadzone 2 should effectively be a re-launched Pandora. Not the original game with two limited factions, but a catch-all, multi-faction, build and play-it-your-way starship dungeon game. This would allow Mantic to sell Deadzone 2 as something self-contained and different from Deadzone 1, with rules tailored for corridor combat. Starships can easily have large rooms rather than tight corridors, for those wanting a "proper" Deadzone experience. I think several of the Battle Systems set ups demonstrate this well:



I see no reason why an entire Deadzone Mat couldn't effectively serve as one room (say, a cargo room) on a large starship, either. As long as you leave out heavy artillery and tanks, it'd be brilliant.

SO looking forward to my BS stuff coming in so I can take pretty pictures with my deadzone minis Just have to work out whether I want to tick off the 3" grids to make it deadzone friendly, or work out a loose conversion for deadzone to work in inches on the grid

 GrimDork wrote:
SO looking forward to my BS stuff coming in so I can take pretty pictures with my deadzone minis Just have to work out whether I want to tick off the 3" grids to make it deadzone friendly, or work out a loose conversion for deadzone to work in inches on the grid

I have the same intention, so I'll be very interested in any solutions you come up with.

Definitely! I think running off and markering the beautiful terrain should be a last resort though. There was a bit of discussion on the Mantic forums too that may prove useful.

Compared to the concept art, they put the heads on the pathfinders backwards. The visor down head looks like the one that is supposed to be on the bike, while the on foot model has their visor up. Not to say that they couldn't have changed from the concept renders, but that would certainly account for the wonkiness.

Concept renders spoilered below for those who don't want to Google to confirm.

Hell maybe that's it, certainly a bit of care and it could be arranged in either case. Cool.

 GrimDork wrote:
SO looking forward to my BS stuff coming in so I can take pretty pictures with my deadzone minis Just have to work out whether I want to tick off the 3" grids to make it deadzone friendly, or work out a loose conversion for deadzone to work in inches on the grid

You and me both mate! Though I now fear I'll have so much scenery I won't know what to do with it all haha!

**Edit- I may have to paint those Asterians in a Cylon paint scheme.. "By your command"

Okay, so updated Kickstarter schedule:

2014
End of July - Deadzone wave 2 ships, DKH KS launches.
August - Mars Attacks ships entirely.
Q4 - DBX ships entirely. Warpath KS (start saving :p).

2015
KoW Skirmish KS
KoW 2.0 KS, Abyssals and Nature.
Possible DZ 2.0 KS?
Possible "new IP" KS? (maybe this one in Q3 2014 too?).

Looks quite crowded, but if they get Deadzone, DBX and Mars Attacks fully shipped before launching Warpath, that will clear things up for them since at the time of Warpath launching, they'll only have DKH to sort out... and even that might ship Dec 2014 if we're lucky since it's a very small, 1-box KS with some bonus resins for the backers.

Assuming there isn't another KS launching Q3 this year, we might be looking at all KS's having shipped by the time Warpath closes.

Hmm, tbh I cannot wait for Mars Attacks skirmish game, as I really like the models (plus Giant robot with a Martian in. That's gonna be a favourite ).

I hope either the next IP to be either Doctor Who or Halo, I know its wish listing but it would be so cool to see those models

See this thread to keep "next IP" guessing/wishlisting in check:

http://forum.manticblog.com/showthread.php?6684-The-%28Second%29-Mantic-IP-Tie-In-Speculation-Thread/page2

There's a huge list of over 100 guesses confirmed to not be accurate. Nobody guessed Mars Attacks correctly, probably highly likely that no-one will guess the next one either.

Some of those have really made me laugh just because how absolutely unlikely they are (and how completely unsuited in a lot of cases - Quantum Leap?! Zardoz?! )

'Spots the Space marine' also me me chuckle.

My guess would be another IP that isn't directly in the limelight at the moment (and therefore is a bit cheaper for licensing) but one that is known quite well... hmm...

Oh, and Ronnie mentioned that they were finalising negotiations for a Deadzone computer game.