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Hey! I'm returning to warhammer 40k after a 3 year gap. So I'm working on updating my army list for 6th.

I should note that the list itself is strict nurgle. And the daemon prince is its figure head. So he might not be the best of choices in the meta game, but he's staying.
Now this new list is designed to be very fast, with a nice focus on assault and surviving for an unnaturally long time!

Ok so the new list is:

HQ 1: Daemon Prince - wings, power armour, 1 psychic power (telepathy psycic school), mark of nurgle = 245

HQ 2: Chaos Lord - bike, power axe/scythe, mark of nurgle = 100

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Troops 1: Plague Marines x 9 - champion, power sword, plasma gun, melta gun, rhino, boon of mutation = 301

Troops 2: Plague Marines x 9 - champion, power sword, 2 plasma guns, rhino, boon of mutation = 306
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Fast Attack 1: Bikers x 5 - mark of nurgle = 140

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Heavy Support 1: Maulerfiend, lasher tendrils = 135

Heavy Support 2: Maulerfiend, lasher tendrils = 135

Heavy Support 3: Maulerfiend, lasher tendrils = 135

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Total: 1497

And just to compare here's my old list that's making do for now:

HQ 1: Daemon Prince - wings, power armour, 1 psychic power (telepathy psycic school),

mark of nurgle = 245

HQ 2: Chaos Lord - bike, power axe/scythe, sigil of corruption, mark of nurgle = 125

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Troops 1: Plague Marines x 11 - champion, power sword, plasma gun, melta gun = 304

Troops 2: Plague Marines x 11 - champion, power sword, 2 plasma guns = 309

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Fast Attack 1: Bikers x 5 - mark of nurgle = 140

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Heavy Support 1: Oblitorators x 3 - mark of nurgle = 228

Heavy Support 2: Havocks x 4 - champion, mark of nurgle, 4 missile launchers = 135

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Total: 1486


So as you can see, the biggest change is the heavy support and the rhino with the marines. Just wanted to make them that little bit faster.

I'm not looking for a tournament list, though I still don't want to loose every game I play. So my question is, how viable is this list for 6th? Especially with the maulerfiends as there a £40 model and I don't want to bring 3 of them is there not going to do enough damage. Although they do fit beautifully with my army theme so if they are viable then perfect!
   
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Looking good!

I always love seeing armies that go for a theme rather than the "flavour of the month" lists that circle around,

I'd really love to see those maulerfiends with some big griblly nurgle tentacles for the lasher tendrils

I think for me I'd try and work in some melta's on those bikers or maybe even a plasma rifle or two to give them some real saturation power just before an assault..

looking great though, like it!
   
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Fresh-Faced New User





Cheers dude!
Well I do like my conversions haha

I really want to give a biker a meltagun, but I need to do some more rummaging in my bits box before I can do that..

Unless anybody can poke some good holes in this list I believe I'm gonna commit!
   
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The dp should have the black mace. It is worth it 100% on a dp.

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Fresh-Faced New User




ho-ly WAT

how have i not seen what the black mace is like on a daemon prince!

i always overlooked it as on a normal lord or something it was "OK" but nothing special haha! on a daemon prince its insane!
   
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I cant help but think I'm late on this band wagon! haha
So yeah, I'll drop the daemon princes psychic power and the 2 plague champions boon of mutation. They were only in to fill some points anyway!

Anybody else got any pointers? Wouldn't mind hearing how people have found the maulerfiends in game?

cheer!
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





If I had no rhinos for my 2 squads of plague marines, then I would split them into 4 squads of 5 men so I could get more special weapons, capture more objectives and avoid having an entire squad of 10 killed by 1 S10 Large Blast.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User





Honestly have to disagree there. For starters not many lists have that kinda shot. Those that do will only usually have 1 so I'd just make that a head target..
That plus I don't keep my units huddled for that reason. Thanks for the advice though!
Also the rhino's go with the wtf speed of my army =P

I'm pretty sure what your suggestion is I get divided and conquered?

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Frothing Warhound of Chaos





I've been running a level three psyker DP to great effect. You'll need to take your first power from the nurgle disciplines, so if you want that psychic scream you'll need to have at least level 2. But that power combined with Nurgle's Rot is devastating! Also he's flying over the little troops, they can't shoot him.
The black mace doesn't work on a Nurgle prince, because he is slow and purposeful - they've run away from the terror of his attacks before the wave of hatred radiates outward.
As others have said, dropping the boons of mutation is a great idea, and even trimming your PM squads to give your bikes some better weapons like meltas is a necessity. You'll want to kill the things that can kill your maulerfiends as quickly as possible.
You might even want to cut down to very small troop sizes of PM that advance behind your main wall of hatred to accomodate a squad of termicide. 2x CM 2X CP & a heavy flamer will often swing the game entirely, and can engage the tarpits that would hang up your maulerfiends for the entire game.

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Huge Hierodule






North Bay, CA

You can get either 2 meltas or 2 plasma guns for your bikers. Also, Power Axes instead of Power Swords on your champs would let you open up things with 2+ saves.

   
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 Ifurita wrote:
You can get either 2 meltas or 2 plasma guns for your bikers. Also, Power Axes instead of Power Swords on your champs would let you open up things with 2+ saves.


I agree with this. You're going to have to challenge and you'll probably be swinging last anyway due to your crappy initiative so you might as well go with something that'll eat through terminator armor and give you that extra attack for being paired with a pistol.

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Elite Tyranid Warrior





Yep totally agree with the 2 above posts. My only thing I'd suggest is using a Heldrake rather than a Maulerfiend as the Heldrake is brutal apparently


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But they're 35 points more :/

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Dakka Veteran




Reading - UK

I like your new list dude. But don't you think more fast stuff would support the bikes and maulerfiends?

MoN spawn are pretty damn awesome also, i suggest checking them out.

I would drop the prince. I soo wanted to take one but T5 and no eternal warrior seems them drop easily and quicker then you expect.


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 L0rdF1end wrote:
I like your new list dude. But don't you think more fast stuff would support the bikes and maulerfiends?

MoN spawn are pretty damn awesome also, i suggest checking them out.

I would drop the prince. I soo wanted to take one but T5 and no eternal warrior sees them drop easily and quicker then you expect.

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