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I have 40k, Future Wars, Warpath so far and I like the elite feel to the Eisenkern, like shocktroopers and the Valkyr will be heavy armored troops for tough assignments, I have other ranges troopers for other tasks of the Khadrovian Union forces to deal with, I must make an "article" about the differing units with their gear and weapons for the discussing.

I've lost interest in using my future TGG as well, the wait has been a tad too long, and the AS codex has been very disappointing.

I played a mega Kill Team game last night (we upped the points to 300 because why not, and played three to a side because we're edgy like that) and I have to say that the Eisenkern look damn fine next to Catachans and Cadians, and a lot more realistic scale wise. Almost dainty, especially since you have them on 30mm bases. Ironically, I used the Kurganova sisters as squad sergeants, and they looked huge because of the smaller base general height of the minis.

Scale issues could be a major stumbling block here still, couldn't they?

The Eisenkern models scale fine next to GW models, imo, and I think it will be the same with the Valkir / APC / etc.

 RiTides wrote:
The Eisenkern models scale fine next to GW models, imo, and I think it will be the same with the Valkir / APC / etc.

I stuck a few of mine on actual GW bases and they fit in just fine.

They're taller than IG by a little bit, but the slimmer frame makes them look right at tabletop height.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I've lost interest in using my future TGG as well, the wait has been a tad too long, and the AS codex has been very disappointing.

Care to share your copy with us?

Just wondering but when are those knights going to be released for retail? would love some for a sci-fi skirmish game I have been creating

 RiTides wrote:
The Eisenkern models scale fine next to GW models, imo, and I think it will be the same with the Valkir / APC / etc.

Ha!

I meant to post that in the RH thread - too many windows open!

 happygolucky wrote:
Just wondering but when are those knights going to be released for retail? would love some for a sci-fi skirmish game I have been creating

They're at retail now. Wayland should be able to hook you up if your local hobby store can't.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
Just wondering but when are those knights going to be released for retail? would love some for a sci-fi skirmish game I have been creating

They're at retail now. Wayland should be able to hook you up if your local hobby store can't.

Thank you will be buying some soon

 Alpharius wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
The Eisenkern models scale fine next to GW models, imo, and I think it will be the same with the Valkir / APC / etc.

Ha!

I meant to post that in the RH thread - too many windows open!

Yeah, the Eisenkern look fine next to GW (actually better, but that is just an aesthetic judgement on my part). The Kurganova are very triangular in composition, they are all very wide, spilling over the base. The point makes them look a lot taller than they might actually be, so while they are the same size as WWX minis, roughly, they seem even bigger.

I told WGF that I wanted cooler and better sword now, not later. They sent a conformation of the request, but no shipping notification or the like since. How long will this take?

 Lobukia wrote:
I told WGF that I wanted cooler and better sword now, not later. They sent a conformation of the request, but no shipping notification or the like since. How long will this take?

Was yours a kickstarter? And which size are you referring to? If not a kickstarter, the Excalibur sword wasa kickstarter exclusive, so not sure you'll get one. If it was a kickstarter and 15mm i am not sure where they are with the 15mm cooler production and the swords.

The ones owed from the kickstarter have already been sent out to some, I received mine a few weeks ago but I didn't have anything after wave one. Though if anyone has another set of 15mm capacitor coolers they want to part with then drop me a PM.

I'd love to get another Official Update and/or Preview in here soon!

Me too. I feel like diving into a fresh pile of plastic sprues while a sci-fi movie plays for the nth time in the background.

I am just doing it for the first time! I am almost done with my first crusader! Just gotta add some magnets to the the coolers so I can swap them (because why not!)

After looking hard into the Valkir I think I've found my new Dark Mechanicus Stormtroopers

 Theophony wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
I told WGF that I wanted cooler and better sword now, not later. They sent a conformation of the request, but no shipping notification or the like since. How long will this take?

Was yours a kickstarter? And which size are you referring to? If not a kickstarter, the Excalibur sword wasa kickstarter exclusive, so not sure you'll get one. If it was a kickstarter and 15mm i am not sure where they are with the 15mm cooler production and the swords.

Yeah, 15mm kickstarter

So far, and allow me to depress everyone on a Monday morning, it seems that Dreamforge, Secret Weapons and Kingdom Death are all slated for late Q2.

Either WGF acquired a boat (sweet!) or it's all going to slip.

With them all being Q2, well...

Not that I'm particularly hopeful, but Mantic received their Secret Weapon cross-over tiles for DeadZone so there's at least the possibility that Secret Weapons is wrapping up. If I had to bet between KD:M and DFG on who gets the "just before the end of Q2" arrival, then KD:M would get the nod.

However, with the expansion that's been hinted at by KD:M and Mark, perhaps it's not outside the realm of possibility that WGF actually has the capacity to pull it off now? Not that I'm wagering on that as I just said, but it wouldn't be unheard of either.

I'm betting that none of them are delivered in Q2, personally

I would be satisfied if we got our Dreamforge models by the middle of Q3 (August). Without having seen renders of the final items, I feel like hoping for anything better is a pipe dream. Come on, WGF... finish this out!

I hope dreamforge gets something out the door for Q2. We have been very patient but you don't want to crush your backers hope.

Not to worry guys…

At this point if it is delayed past late Q2 it is because I have been requesting changes. This process is more often a negotiation than “here are my files, make them”.

The artist provides the models, WGF works on the mold split and sends me back sample files to review and approve, and sometimes I am not happy with the way the model needed to be modified to make it work in hard tooling. I make suggestions and we take another run at it. We split the model up differently or separate a component from the mesh and see if they can get a model to work in hard tooling and still meet my requirements.

Sometimes we cannot, and I need to compromise, sometimes we can, with a simple change it all works out. The negotiation process between the engineers and the client is something that happens with every kit, we can take as many as three runs at a single model before we have exhausted the options. Another change to the process is that I have requested that the T1 shots for each kit as they complete are sent to me so that I can assemble them, test them against the instructions and make sure the instructions and part numbers match and that there are not assembly issues that need to be dealt with before the final production run, this can add some time especially if I request changes.

I know how late in the day we are, you all have been great and more gracious than I could have ever hoped. I refuse to give you all anything but the best minis I can. If this means we push a little into Q3, because I insisted on making the best minis possible, then I will take the heat for it. I just cannot see letting something reach production that will be reproduced thousand if not tens of thousands of times with the same glaring issues that could have been dealt with in the pre-production phase by taking a little extra time and care. We are soooo close, just bear with me and we will have some fantastic kits!

I will post another update soon with shots of the completed APC and a status update as to where we are.

As to the other KS and shipping, that is how these things go, each project has a dedicated team. Each team completes the project when the client says they are good to go. It just so happens that each team is finalizing at about the same time. WGF ability to run the production box and ship is not the issue, the mold splits and drafts are the time eaters. Everything goes through the port of HK, the largest shipping port in the world so it’s not like there are not of thousands of containers leaving each day

Thank you for an overview of the process could I ask what stage are the heavy troopers in? Thank you in advance for all your hard work Mark I was one of the guys who bought your resin and metal releases excellent lines

 NoseGoblin wrote:
I just cannot see letting something reach production that will be reproduced thousand if not tens of thousands of times with the same glaring issues that could have been dealt with in the pre-production phase by taking a little extra time and care. We are soooo close, just bear with me and we will have some fantastic kits!

You have my support on this.

Think about it- you're cutting a aluminum or steel mold in order to produce thousands of injections. It's a huge endeavor. Do it right!!!

I can't believe the corners some companies cut to rush stuff out the door. Mantic is a prime example.

Then, look at the Perry Twin's kits. They're very slow out the door- but it is really, really hard to find anything to gripe about on a technical level.

Take your time IMO.

 inqscott wrote:
Thank you for an overview of the process could I ask what stage are the heavy troopers in? Thank you in advance for all your hard work Mark I was one of the guys who bought your resin and metal releases excellent lines

We are in that negotiation phase. All the mold splits have been done but I am not happy with how they had to approach a few items. I have a conference call with my account rep and the engineer tonight to go over the concerns and see if we can get inventive with how we take care of the concerns. The Heavy troopers are even more hard lined from a design perspective than the stormtroopers were. The crease in the armor legs and arms and the perfect circles of the knees and elbows creates some challenges for the engineers and what angle they put the part at. The crotch area of the legs has been a trouble spot and one we will be discussing tonight. Some of the weapons on the Heavy Support squad need some tweaks for ease of assembly....

Im much more understanding with the delays on the dreamforge stuff entirely because Mark is up front with communication and updates, some of the other really late KS really annoy me because you get zero updates on progress, the only updates you get are the sorry guys its late again nonsense. Being up front and honest like Mark has been is just common sense, shame others dont do it

So in the 1.5 years since this ks launched or the 10 months since wave 3 was supposed to be shipped, no one has been able to sit down and complete the mold or etc yet. Yay