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Hey guys, wanting your feedback on this list

HQ;
Chaos Lord
Terminator Armour
Power Maul
MoN
Sigil of corruption - 160

Elites;
Hellbrute
Reaper Autocannon- 110

Troops;
7 Plague Marines
2 Meltas - 188

7 Plague Marines
2 Meltas - 188

Rhino with Havoc launcher - 47

20 Cultists with autoguns - 110

Fast Attack;
Helldrake - 170

Total of 973

My main question is should I with the spare points add another 5 cultists with autoguns, or should I swap the Hellbrute for 5 havocs with 4 autocannons both making 998

Also, should I include the cultists at all or have another standard 5 man squad of Plague Marines?

James

At 1000 points, you have 2 troops. That should be sufficient. I would loos the cultists and the hellbrute for either your havocs or a 3rd plague marine squad.

A 3rd troop (that is rock hard and fearless) would be able to camp on an objective. 2 more Plasma would provide you with good firepower against any MEQ or TEQ equal or better than the havocs.

On the other hand, a havoc squad would provide you with great anti-rhino fire, anti-flyer and anti-GEQ fire. If you can, I would like to add to their resiliency and add MoN and perhaps VotLW to get them better leadership.

The choice is yours.

Anyone else?

I would lose the Hellbrute and get some heavy support maybe Obliterators with MoN/VOTLW or Havocs with 4x AC.

or you could get some bikers or spawn to get some early game aggression.

I was thinking of bikes but people always say they're too easy a target to take out. Plus I could only get the one Oblit so I think havocs may be the best option?

Yeah, go with havocs they are great.

Ok, so, revised list is as follws:

HQ:
Chaos lord
Terminator Armour
Power Maul
MoN
Sigil - 160

Troops:
7 Plague Marines
2 meltas - 188

7 Plague Marines
2 meltas
Rhino with Havoc launcher - 235

5 Plaue Marines - 120

Fast Attack:
Heldrake - 170

Heavy Support:
5 Havocs
4 autocannons
MoN on 4 autocannons

Total - 1000

This seems better to me now, I have some fast things (rhino and helldrake). Some Heavy from the havocs, and some hard hitting, long lasting troops.

Anyone think this needs any more tweaking?

you could try to change the 5 plague marines into a big squad of cultists then stick your HQ with them and use the cultists to soak up damage and make sure the HQ survives and gets delivered into assault.

I was thinking that but I think 5 PM's will survive better than 20 cultists to be honest

i doubt it. You want to stick the hq with 5x plague marines?

 Demic25 wrote:
i doubt it. You want to stick the hq with 5x plague marines?

Yes. T5/FnP is infinitely better than T4, even if there are 20 of them.

As for the bikers... whoever told you they get eaten quickly is a noob. T6 bikers (or T5/FnP for Slaanesh) are hecka-hardy units, and with 12" moves, Jink, relentless, and their relatively cheap cost, they are awesome units. Especially Slaanesh bikers with FnP for that I5.

You overcosted yourself on the Lord. You don't need to pay for a power weapon when you take terminator armor. You get it as part of the terminator upgrade.

 Demic25 wrote:
i doubt it. You want to stick the hq with 5x plague marines?

Yes!

Thanks for the comment on the PW, forgot that its included. I may invest in some bikes and see how they do, T6 for Nurgle bikers seems fun and for 85 ish points for 3 its not bad

U cant just only give MoN to x amount of models in a squad. U have to buy it for the entire squad, so that 5th havoc needs a MoN too.

If you physically do not own more rhinos then I would shave 2 plague marines from the squad of 7 and use those points to buy guns for the 5 men squad and have them share your lone rhino and have the other 7 man squad footslog.

Can you put 2 seperate squads in a rhino then?

James811 wrote:
Can you put 2 seperate squads in a rhino then?

Absolutely not.

That's what I thought but its how I read the above post

only loyalist marheens combat squads, who bought a dedicated transport, can "share a cab" so to speak

Although you can not put 2 squads into a rhino at the start, I thought you can put the 2nd squad in on your turn.