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So I was playing a friendly game the other day and had a scenario come up that we haven't had to deal with (haven't played much 6th yet).

We had a Fortress of Redemption on the board as terrain (not purchased by either player)

I had a unit of Scouts w/Telion on the battlement of one of the bunker annexes. Nothing occupied the building below.

My opponent was playing a White Scars army and had a unit of bikes approach the annex.

Now, what would have been the correct way (and best given the bikes) for him to kill the scouts?

The way we played it was that he destroyed the battlement they were on (not being aware of the FAQ stating that it can't be destroyed) -- our thought was it was considered 2 different buildings (which we now know is wrong). When it was "destroyed" I opted to leap down to get out of LoS and away from the bikes (falling back to an objective).

Now, knowing a bit more about the rulings of this. What was the correct way for him to attack my scouts.

The way I see it was that he couldn't attack the building below since it wasn't occupied. So his best bet was simply to shoot normally at my unit in the battlement and then assault with grenades (if possible)

Aside from that:

1. Could he have embarked the bikes in the building below and assaulted there?
2. Could he still use grenades in the assault phase, and throw them at the unit on the battlements above them (them being in base contact/ within 8" with the annex)
3. And assuming #2 is Ok, these are resolved as hits (automatic) against the unit in the battlement, with normal cover saves allowed correct?

The multipart building and assaults, I just can't seem to wrap my head around this.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I think I answered my own question.


The only thing he could do was either A. Occupy the blow building and assault or B. Shoot my unit

Since it's a small building and he had a squad of 9 bikes, he couldn't fit, leaving him only able to shoot. And since he can't attack the building, no grenades in assault.


Biggity bam....

1. No, only Infantry may embark on buildings.
2. No, because he may not assault the building below because it was not occupied
3. No cover saves allowed, as they're close combat attacks.

Luide wrote:
1. No, only Infantry may embark on buildings.
2. No, because he may not assault the building below because it was not occupied
3. No cover saves allowed, as they're close combat attacks.

Awesome.

So, just to clarify number 3, I guess my question is, where does it say that the grenades being thrown on the battlements is close combat, especially considering they (the unit assaulting) is assaulting the building below (assuming the building below is also occupied)?

For instance:

I have a Tac squad occupying the building and scouts on the battlements. Bikers assault the building. In doing so, the charging player opts to throw 5 grenades on to the battlements -- scouts get no cover save?

I'm inclined to agree, I just want to fully understand how this is clarified.

Thanks!

Aren't bikes infantry (Bike)?

Gravmyr wrote:
Aren't bikes infantry (Bike)?

No. Main rule book (pg. 410) shows them simply as "Bike"

I thought you could attack a building of the battlement was occupied?

tgf wrote:
I thought you could attack a building of the battlement was occupied?

No, at least from my understanding.

The battlement is occupied. Not the building (since we are dealing with a multi-part building), and per the rules, you cannot attack an unoccupied building (shooting or in close combat).

No; the battlement is not the building, and so the building is unoccupied. It's why you cannot shoot the building either