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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 11:37:36
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I wonder if Adam has considered going larger than 54mm. I'd love the chairgirl in 1/8 scale
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0030/03/21 12:25:33
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Will the dramatic increase in cost of getting larger scale stuff printed I suspect that's probably not viable..
but shoot him a message after the KS is shipped (and he has time to think), you never know
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 14:34:42
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Based on that question and your username, you had me worried there for a second!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 16:02:41
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Will the dramatic increase in cost of getting larger scale stuff printed I suspect that's probably not viable..
but shoot him a message after the KS is shipped (and he has time to think), you never know
I think I will. I suppose I have no idea what the market for stuff like that looks like. There is a slight overlap, but generally the garage kit market is even smaller than boutique miniatures. Given the success of KD though and the number of collectors out there I think he might be able to swing a limited release at least. Actually I am certain it'd sell like hotcakes and I'd wind up not getting one Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:Based on that question and your username, you had me worried there for a second! 
You had me stumped for a moment there...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 16:42:11
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Adam moving into collectable large scale kit is very likely, both the chair girl and this figure, Laurie PinUp, (below) were created around the same time and previewed quite a few months ago, although
the original images kinda disappeared randomly:
Warning NSFW and a large image:
The description for this figure, Laurie:
This piece is a bit old, but I hadn't posted it here. It was to become the first Kingdom Death based model kit at about 8 inches or so tall. I was printed, fitted, but it needed some clean up from the milling lines.
It might still happen as a kit at some point, but it depends if Adam (KD's creator) decides he wants it to happen and has the time, which at the moment isn't the case. The concept as often is the case
And the chair girl, whos called Simone:
Mini for Kingdom Death. Production for this one is on hold while the main game is being manufactured... be on the look out for her and more once the main game is shipping.
So yeah Adam is obliviously planning to moving into at least a few 1/8 scale kits (8inches is the average height of a 1/8 anime scale figure), it just looks like due to the devolpmeant and release of KD:M
he's decided to put the project on hold, understandable he must be strapped for time and resources as it is without having to create a whole new product range top of it all.
I Know I'd loved so 1/8 scale KD pin-ups, honestly so few anime figures are ever more exciting than girl in schoolgirl uniform, girl in unimaginative looking bikini (because breast right?) in the same three poses *groan*. Adam could
potentially hit an interesting niche of highly detailed and graceful figures that's severely lacking in that market at the moment. Not to say they don't exist in figure market, but the just one in thousand overall, how much actual crossover
there is between the miniature and figure market is going to be interesting to see.
in fact some of adams work would look really great along side Empty's Princess Solange, n-n-not that I know of such things.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 17:03:45
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
Sweden
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Rolt - you made my day!
I'm so stoked right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 17:22:14
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Fixture of Dakka
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1/8 scale Watcher would be pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 18:12:51
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Fixture of Dakka
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1/8 scale Dragon King would be cooler.  Amd horribly more expensive I'd imagine. Automatically Appended Next Post: Not to beat a dead horse, but I finally got a chance to sit down and open up the pin-up collection. I have to say, these are some VERY impressive miniatures. The tiny details are already giving me nightmares abou painting them.
On the other hand the fact that about half of the models' breasts come as seperate pieces tickled me. I don't know why, but it just seemed very odd.
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Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/04 17:37:31
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Well after finally paying VAT and the "Royal Mail International Handling Charge" (because it takes money to maintain their special level of donkeycavery), finally got my pin-up set like two weeks after it landed in the country.
Well holy cow it was worth the wait, and I'm really excited for when the game lands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/04 18:21:25
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I didn't get the pin up set mainly because of the likely costs incurred in the post. I couldn't resist the earlier grab bags, which luckily I was okay with. I really hope EU distribution is arranged for KD:M as I dread to think how much the total fees incurred by all the EU backers would turn out to be. I know some people aren't fond of c'mon, but personally I'd welcome their distribution connections (if that was a possibility).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 07:37:05
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Satan Twins are out $50 limited edition
as is the new Gold Smoke Knight
http://shop.kingdomdeath.com/
So great was Satan’s self-obsession that it split into twin hermaphrodite lovers to share the world with itself. They roam Kingdom Death, drunk with self-lust and power, trapped by their own vanity in fragile human frames. Their armor of living tongues shares the taste of the world between the twins. Satan is a vicious masochist, poisoning the minds of any it comes across. The pair is well hated by other entities, as they only seek to disrupt balance for their own satisfaction.
Satan was hand sculpted by Jacques Alexandre Gillois with the concept art by Lokman Lam.
This limited collectors run celebrates passing the $666,666 mark during the Kingdom Death: Monster kickstarter. It comes packaged in a hand-stamped kraft box including:
1 x Satan Twin X
1 x Satan Twin Y
2 x Kingdom Death 30mm Base
Numbered & Signed Collectors Certificate of Authenticity
6" x 4” Double-sided Print of the Original Concept Artwork on heavy card stock.
Double-sided character Card
Satan (NSFW so spoiler)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 07:42:30
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Don't really care for the Satan twins, but I've got to have that smoke knight...
That said, I'll be moving very shortly, and don't have my new mailing address at the exact moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 08:33:55
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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Pretty much have all of the KD stuff. So this was a no brainer.
But for the first time, I think I actually got the first one for both of these... was on the site and saw it was updating... so just had it refreshing and bought it instantly. Having these as #1 will be nice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 08:34:38
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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So great was Satan’s self-obsession that it split into twin hermaphrodite lovers to share the world with itself. They roam Kingdom Death, drunk with self-lust and power, trapped by their own vanity in fragile human frames. Their armor of living tongues...
This girl on the left...are those things on her cloak meant to be tongues? Hmmm...
Creeeeepy...
Also, while I normally admire KD's stuff, I'm not a huge fan of these.
The "chair girl" on the other hand is great.
Satan (probably NSFW so spoiler)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 08:39:02
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Freelance Soldier
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That's... quite disappointing. When I think Satan, a pair of boob-jobbed lesbian porn stars isn't the first thing that comes to my mind... It isn't even the 100th. Not to mention KD has enough cheesecake as it is, I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 09:17:50
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Padre wrote:So great was Satan’s self-obsession that it split into twin hermaphrodite lovers to share the world with itself. They roam Kingdom Death, drunk with self-lust and power, trapped by their own vanity in fragile human frames. Their armor of living tongues...
This girl on the left...are those things on her cloak meant to be tongues? Hmmm...
The cloak bit definitely isn't made of tongues...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 09:28:56
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
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Yeah, Satan's Technicolour Schlong Coat isn't really doing it for me.
That said, I will probably pick up both the twins and the smoke Knight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 10:12:07
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Dakka Veteran
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-DE- wrote:That's... quite disappointing. When I think Satan, a pair of boob-jobbed lesbian porn stars isn't the first thing that comes to my mind... It isn't even the 100th. Not to mention KD has enough cheesecake as it is, I'd say.
I can't agree more, and I am starting to think that this is starting to feel more and more like cash-grab, to be honest. The high price on these are quite alright for a unique miniature that is sculpted by someone really good. But as of late, these naked chicks are so easy to do in 3d that the rate the sculptor can charge doesn't really justify the high price. Here, you've basically taken your template sculpt and added some basic stuff that you pretty much can copy/paste to achieve. What would the profit margin be on these? I am guessing at least 70% profit margin. Mmm, not sure what to think about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 10:36:10
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Really love the stuff kingdom death comes out with and its a treat to paint, such a pity the kickstarter didn't give much incentive to pledge other than a pre-order
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 11:03:38
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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grefven wrote: -DE- wrote:That's... quite disappointing. When I think Satan, a pair of boob-jobbed lesbian porn stars isn't the first thing that comes to my mind... It isn't even the 100th. Not to mention KD has enough cheesecake as it is, I'd say.
I can't agree more, and I am starting to think that this is starting to feel more and more like cash-grab, to be honest. The high price on these are quite alright for a unique miniature that is sculpted by someone really good. But as of late, these naked chicks are so easy to do in 3d that the rate the sculptor can charge doesn't really justify the high price. Here, you've basically taken your template sculpt and added some basic stuff that you pretty much can copy/paste to achieve. What would the profit margin be on these? I am guessing at least 70% profit margin. Mmm, not sure what to think about it.
I'm really not certain that good digital sculptors are any cheaper (or quicker) than physical ones (although the medium does allow easier re-poseing if you're doing units) but in this case
Satan was hand sculpted by Jacques Alexandre Gillois
The Gold Smoke Knight was hand sculpted by Thomas David
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 11:05:54
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Not a fan of Satan.
Now, the Gold Smoke Knight is pretty neat. However, I have plenty of figures coming in my KD:M Order, so I think I'll just wait for those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 11:37:28
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Jesus' vulva-mouth is a nice touch...
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I'm really not certain that good digital sculptors are any cheaper (or quicker) than physical ones (although the medium does allow easier re-poseing if you're doing units)
Digital sculpting is significantly more expensive than traditional. The sculpt is the same rate, but printing is not free (or cheap), and the print needs some work before the master castings can be made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 11:46:34
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Love the Gold Smoke Knight!
The Twins - not so much.
That cloak... is a bit much!
For the work blocked, and therefore most likely not able to get the Gold Smoke Knight, does it come with rules for the upcoming game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 11:49:44
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No the Gold Smoke Knight is just a mini at the moment with no function in Kingdom Death: Monster
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 12:15:22
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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It is a nice Mini though...
Could perhaps be used in some form of 'counts as' or other in KD: M...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 12:22:50
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
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Counts as a Butcher maybe?
Regarding Satan's coat, I'm guessing that it is optional and can be left off the model. At least that is what I'm hoping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 12:28:13
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I was just going to post that
Creator Kingdom Death about 4 hours ago
The skirt is a separate piece. The model is fully sculpted underneath.
Image is definitely NSFW! I wasn't paying that much attention this morning! I can see the detail now.
I ordered Satan twins as they probably won't appear again not entirely sold on the concept but hey they will hold their value if I decide I do 't like them held off on the Knight as I have with alot of the newer stuff as I hope they will be done in plastic in a later game and I don't really want to order to much that currently has no game use
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 12:35:19
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
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Adam sent out an email to KD:M backers on Saturday which said that a further run of Satan models will be cast if the first sells out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 13:13:53
Subject: Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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I went the opposite direction Dave - I ordered the Gold Smoke Knight and left the Satan Twins out.
The Penis Cloak was a bit much, and even if it can be left off, there's less chance for the Twins to show up 'in game', and 'counts as' options for them are limited as well...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/28 13:17:49
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death : Monster - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated Mar 11th, pg21)
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Major
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I'm not a big fan of the sculpt, but I do love the background.
The sculpt is very nicely executed, and I like the Kingdom Death-esque juxtaposition of the beautiful against the macabre, but it just doesn't carry the story that well. They seem like women, rather than being ambiguous or both. Some more "male" features worked in would have been better, IMO, though I admit to only skimming the images at the site so maybe I just overlooked something.
The Smoke Knight is cool, though my "awesome model that I'll be way too scared to paint" is tapped out.
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