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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 01:42:14
Subject: Marbo
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Hey, this came up at the weekend and I can't see an answer that is satisfying enough for me.
Is Marbo a special character that can be challanged or is he just a 1 man unit?
We asked the TO and he wasn't sure and came down on the side of no but I'm not convinced as special characters have the ability to generate warlord traits without being IC's or their FAQ naming them as such. Warlords must be characters Bjorn got corrected to be a character. Mephiston for example is a character but not an IC.
Is Marbo a character?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 01:56:35
Subject: Marbo
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Yes he is a Character. The character section should clarify this.
But no he may not be the Warlord, as he is not an HQ choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 02:02:12
Subject: Marbo
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Oh I know he isn't HQ but I was trying to argue by example.
Units that weren't designated character due to being vehicles or lacking IC rule were characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 07:36:55
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Regular Dakkanaut
San Francisco, CA
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Marbo is not listed in the 40k main rulebook as being a character or otherwise. Neither is he in the FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 07:40:18
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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jadedknight wrote:Marbo is not listed in the 40k main rulebook as being a character or otherwise. Neither is he in the FAQ.
Neither are any other named character (apart from Bjorn).
But we do have:
Q: Do models classified as unique count as characters? (p63)
A: Yes, but not in the case of vehicles (with the exception of Bjorn the Fell-handed).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 07:40:51
Subject: Marbo
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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But he does have a name.
P. 110 "these unique individuals, who stand out from normal characters because they have a personal name and not just a title, are called 'special characters'"
All named individuals are Special Characters.
Therefore Marbo is a character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 14:42:35
Subject: Marbo
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Well that could have pushed that minor into a major victory. Needed to challange marbo and not kill him so the assault would continue into the opponents turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 14:53:26
Subject: Marbo
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Sniping Hexa
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Ah! Marbo would have wiped the floor with your weakling character and won the day !
Guess it happened close to my gaming table as I heard the discussion and the furious flipping of pages last week end
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 16:29:33
Subject: Marbo
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Marbo has 5 attacks that wound on a 2+, you would have lost that challenge  . #shadowofthemarbo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 17:04:37
Subject: Marbo
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Regular Dakkanaut
San Francisco, CA
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DeathReaper wrote:But he does have a name.
P. 110 "these unique individuals, who stand out from normal characters because they have a personal name and not just a title, are called 'special characters'"
All named individuals are Special Characters.
Therefore Marbo is a character.
Yep doh,  I agree. Was a long day yesterday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 01:01:08
Subject: Marbo
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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magicafiend wrote:Marbo has 5 attacks that wound on a 2+, you would have lost that challenge  . #shadowofthemarbo
Marbo didn't even cause a single wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/10 06:17:21
Subject: Marbo
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Marbo decides what he wants to be a the beginning of each turn.
Not really I just made that up...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 04:54:37
Subject: Marbo
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Fighter Pilot
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magicafiend wrote:Marbo has 5 attacks that wound on a 2+, you would have lost that challenge  . #shadowofthemarbo
Does it matter? He's dead already...#Marbodangerjenkins
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 19:53:22
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Marbo is as much a character that can be challenged as a monstrous creature.
He may issue challenges, and due to not being able to join a squad, he must accept challenges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 20:35:51
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Khalbrae wrote:Marbo is as much a character that can be challenged as a monstrous creature.
Point of order:
Not all monstrous creatures are characters.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:27:27
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Are there monstrous creatures who come in units of more than one model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:30:28
Subject: Marbo
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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*points to Tyranid Codex*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:31:49
Subject: Marbo
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Carnefexes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:36:07
Subject: Re:Marbo
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Yes, but that has no bearing on what Khalbrae said. Also not all MC's are Characters, even some solo MC's are not characters Such as Harpies, Mawlocks, Mycetic Spores Etc.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/11 21:37:15
"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:37:11
Subject: Marbo
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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C'tan are, even though they arent classed as unique. Which makes no sense...
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Experience is something you get just after you need it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 21:44:50
Subject: Marbo
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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IHateNids wrote:C'tan are, even though they arent classed as unique. Which makes no sense...
You don't have to be unique to be a character.
Special characters have to be unique.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 23:28:20
Subject: Marbo
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Marbo is sadly not that great in cc. 5A on the charge at I5 and wounds on 2+ sounds pretty good but alas it's normal armor saves. I used him to charge a techmarine/thunderfire cannon and marbo died..
The previous time I took Marbo his demolition charge scattered back on him and killed him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 23:55:10
Subject: Re:Marbo
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The Hive Mind
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Carnifexes. And Harpies, while single MC units, are not characters so... There's no blanket statement you can make.
Also Trygon non-Primes are not characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 08:51:34
Subject: Marbo
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Fighter Pilot
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ers126 wrote:Marbo is sadly not that great in cc. 5A on the charge at I5 and wounds on 2+ sounds pretty good but alas it's normal armor saves. I used him to charge a techmarine/thunderfire cannon and marbo died..
The previous time I took Marbo his demolition charge scattered back on him and killed him.
He does seem to underwhelm in CC...Ouch, thats just bad luck. He's all about taking out those juicy targets/easy VP in some cases. You basically pay 65pts to almost always kill something far more expensive...the killing yourself thing with the charge is unlikely to become an issue because Marbo has BS5....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 09:17:08
Subject: Marbo
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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lonedrow02 wrote:ers126 wrote:Marbo is sadly not that great in cc. 5A on the charge at I5 and wounds on 2+ sounds pretty good but alas it's normal armor saves. I used him to charge a techmarine/thunderfire cannon and marbo died..
The previous time I took Marbo his demolition charge scattered back on him and killed him.
He does seem to underwhelm in CC...Ouch, thats just bad luck. He's all about taking out those juicy targets/easy VP in some cases. You basically pay 65pts to almost always kill something far more expensive...the killing yourself thing with the charge is unlikely to become an issue because Marbo has BS5....
Exactly this. If you're relying on Marbo to kill enemy units in combat, then I think you need to buy new scatter dice. He's supposed to show up, make something blow up, then most likely die. If he survives, then you have a cheap meltabomb in the enemy backfield that is always fun to use.
I had one situation where Marbo turned up and killed half a dozen Paladins (the survivors were picked off with other shooting and assaults). My opponent shot several units at him but he survived, and in desperation assaulted him with a psyfleman Dreadnought. He was only one failed save (thanks to instant death) away from pasting the Dreadnought with his meltabomb...but hey, I'm not complaining.
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