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Here is the scenario:

Ork Trukk has a boarding plank. It has a unit of 11 boys and a Nob with a Power Klaw. Can the units of 11 boys shoot open topped at one unit and assuming within 2" of an enemy vehicle the Nob with a PK assault the vehicle via the plank?

I'm the Ork player and in our game we said not as you have to assault the same unit you shoot at so I either had to shoot at the vehicle (in order to assault from the trukk) or shoot at the unit but not be able to assault.

cheers

As the rules for boarding planks tell you to treat as if disembarked and charging then yes you would need to shoot and attack the same unit.

From the FAQ:

Q: Can an Ork that is attacking an enemy vehicle by using a
boarding plank do so even if his unit fired at a different target in the
Shooting phase? (p93)
A: Yes.

I wouldn't have thought it likely myself, but there you have it - it seems they're essentially saying one model in the embarked unit can assault a different target.

See what I get for not checking the FAQ...... interesting.

Yea i always assumed as so, but i guess the FAQ rules otherwise. Rather amusing though, i had 18 Shootas and a BS in a BW take out one AV10 vehicle after my PK nob just planked another one lol

Gravmyr wrote:
See what I get for not checking the FAQ...... interesting.

I don't use planks but if I did, I would have gone with your ruling and said the unit had to shoot and plank-assault the same target. Now I feel I need to sit and give the FAQ a proper read in case any other bits like that are squirrelled away...

I use planks if im against Eldar mainly, occationally if im against space marines and DEFINATELY against IG since every single damn IG player i face does the armor parking lot. I do much better surging 13 inches and planking something then forcing him to waste more shots on my transport rather than move 7 disembark 6 and charge then let my boyz be wide open for the dakka that blocks out the sun.

Its only 30pts to get all your vehicles with it, since under 2k you kinda cant have more than 6 unless youre going solid trukks (which i think is dumb).

Also, you can Deffrolla a vehicle then, if it survived, plank it. Open topped = whole body, including the Deffrolla itself, is measured for the embarked units firing range...plank's only limitation is neither vehicle moved more than 12 inches (flat out, since nothing but fliers moves more than 12 normally and RPJ extra inch does not count for how far you move for any rule).
Thats funny. Deffrolla an AV13 tank, it gets lucky and has 1 HP left. My opponent gloats "HA! I WIN!" then i go "Planked!" and it explodes

Thanks for confirming folks (and I really need to check the FAQ!)

Im thinking that the Boarding Plank attack is in the movement phase and this is why you can shoot at a diffrent unit than the Boarding plank attacker.

no its done in the assault phase

than there is no point in taking the boarding plank to begin with i guess.....

Drag wrote:
than there is no point in taking the boarding plank to begin with i guess.....

The point is that you can keep your squad embarked and still have the Nob bust a vehicle with his Klaw as a "drive by" Klawing.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also, you can Deffrolla a vehicle then, if it survived, plank it. Open topped = whole body, including the Deffrolla itself, is measured for the embarked units firing range..:

Remember folks, that all measurements to and from vehicles are to the hull, so you can only measure to and from the Deffrolla if you've made clear before the game that you're counting it as part of the hull, and you play it that way for all purposes. Which may make sense, depending on how you've built or converted it, but does tend to have the downside of narrowing your frontal armor facing and widening your sides. Most Ork players I know instead model the rolla to be able to be raised out of the way or removed if it gets in the way, and don't play it as being part of the hull.

Can you declare an Overwatch versus a plank attack? If so I assume it would target the entire unit.

cannot target a unit inside a transport, and they never leave the transport.
Only special debuffs ever get that ability to target the embarked unit, such as necrons Deathmark crap.
EDIT: The default deffrolla if built properly just snaps in place to the battlewagon's front. It can be flipped up over the chassis of the BW without any special modifications.
I usually play it doesnt count either, because it further makes it a questionable upgrade if it adds to its total length. The BW's main weakness is such a HUGE AV12 side, if it was in the rulings the rolla extended its hull it would make that weakness even weaker and i'd never take it. Its questionable as it is because you get ALL your saves against it (which is dumb) and exposes your weaknesses in the process.
Debating not even taking the damn thing anymore, its 60pts (i almost always run 3 BWs if i take any) and usually doesnt do much due to the saves allowed. Still awesome against vehicles, but aside from IG (which pops them before they get close anyway) who spams vehicles besides orks?

 Dozer Blades wrote:
Can you declare an Overwatch versus a plank attack? If so I assume it would target the entire unit.

Possibly. If you use it on a Walker or a filled transport. However, based on the following:

Ork FAQ wrote:Q: Can a Walker attack back against an Ork attacking him from a
boarding plank? (p93)
A: No.

I would say no (as Overwatch is an attack. Sort of.).

Overwatch is made in response to the declaration of a charge. A model using a Boarding Plank does not charge. He just makes his attacks as if he were charging.

Can tau units overwatch the unit with supporting fire, and if so do they hit that whole unit or just the single guy?

Read the above radd.

And also check dates. This thread has been dead over a year!

 grendel083 wrote:
And also check dates. This thread has been dead over a year!

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