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Okay, so after this thread ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/502125.page ) and a local tournament where I got stomped I decided to try and make a nice 1850 list out of the models I already own. This isn't the best list in the world, or the best ally combo for that matter, but I found that having BA assault marines and psychic powers really added a lot of mobility and versatility to my guard army. The idea of this list is that all of the armor moves up the field to cap objectives while the blobs, CCS and dread sit in the back camping my deployment zone. The dreadnought is going to roll on divination almost 100% of the time. Again, not the best list in the world, but I am working with the models I already own, so I don't think it is awful.

EDIT: For those pushing for flyers: I would love to run a stormraven and my vendetta. The problem is that I also need to be able to transport all this stuff in a case, and both of those flyers, while good, take up a lot of room.

IG/BA: 1850
HQ:
CCS: 160
Plasma Pistol
Regimental Standard
Lascannon
Sniper Rifle
Carapace
Master of the Fleet

Troops:
Platoon
PCS: 50
4x flamers
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Infantry Squad: 105
Lascannon
Commissar

Infantry Squad: 70
Lascannon

Infantry Squad: 70
Lascannon

Veterans: 155
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Guns
Carapace Armor
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Veterans: 155
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Guns
Carapace Armor
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Heavy Support

Leman Russ: 150

Leman Russ Demolisher: 165

Fortification:
Aegis Defense Line: 100
Quad Gun

Allied Blood Angels:
HQ:
Librarian: 125
Jump Pack
Blood Lance, Fear the Darkness

Elites:
Furioso Dreadnought: 175
Librarian
Wings of Sanguinius
Fear the Darkness

Troops:
Assault Squad: 215
+5 men
2x Flamers
Power Sword

Okay, Since these are the model that you own I'm going to make the list I would build with your models

I am currently running a Blood angles/IG force ATM with pretty good success, in my group we have some pretty competitive lists and I'm running about 60% with it or so.

I think you have the play style backwards. push with the SM, and camp with the guard. So think about that when looking at my changes.

The blob has a libby and ATSKNF.
blob, PCS, SWS x3, and vet squad are scoring. Honestly I'd run the second vet swd if you had the plasmas or meltas, maybe you do? but you need plasmas in the blob to make it any sort of a threat.

Also If you squadron the russ' or drop one of them you can make the IG allies and main detachment the BA. allowing mephiston, fast vindicator, or just more MEQ bodies.

Flyers;
1. the quadgun will most likly not be enough AA.
2. The 2 codex's you made your list from have the best 2 flyers in 40k. use them.

 Happygrunt wrote:
IG/BA: 1850
HQ:
CCS: 160
Plasma Pistol
Regimental Standard
Lascannon
Sniper Rifle
Carapace
Master of the Fleet

Troops:
Platoon
PCS: 50
4x flamers
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Infantry Squad: 100
Lascannon
Commissar
Plasma gun

Infantry Squad: 65
Lascannon
Plasma gun

Infantry Squad:65
Plasma gun
Lascannon

Blob the inf platoon with the Libby

Las cannon HWS: 105

Auto cannon HWS: 75

mortor HWS: 60

You can make 3 morters and 3 las/auto cannon from one box of heavy weapon cadians if you get 3 60mm bases

Veterans: 155
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Guns
Carapace Armor
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Veterans: 155
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Guns
Carapace Armor
Chimera: 55
ML/HF

Heavy Support

Leman Russ: 150

Leman Russ Demolisher: 165

Fortification:
Aegis Defense Line: 100
Quad Gun

Allied Blood Angels:
HQ:
Librarian: 110
Jump Pack
Blood Lance, Fear the Darkness Run Divination for the re-rolls, and maybe the 4++ power, or sheild of sangunius for the 5+ cover because he'll be with your blob
combi plasma

Elites:
Furioso Dreadnought: 175
Librarian
Wings of Sanguinius
Fear the Darkness
Do you still have the arms? I love blood talons, they chew threw marines like crazy well worth it IMO and 50 points less

Troops:
Assault Squad: 215
+5 men
2x Flamersno meltas?
Power Sword


Stormraven, buy one they are great!

in red!

unless playing a MEQ army i would swap out the lascannon for MLs on the infantry squads. also unless playing an army w/ lots of 2+ saves swap the demolisher for another lrbt. i would also swap out the blood angel allies for 3 more infantry squads and another 2 lrbt. remember "keep it cheap and keep it killy". also cut the plasma pistol off the ccs it's just wasted points.


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also if you want to keep the BA allies take a stormraven and if you have any take some vandetta/valkyire they are very good.

I actually got to play this list today. Lost on turn 5 because the game ended, but I think this could shape up to be a nice list. The blob gives it a lot of staying power while the armored elements allow me to push my opponent. Overall, a lot of fun. (and the demolisher WRECKED a fortress of redemption )

Yeah, so you've been able to scrape some real potential together here.

I can't say very much about BA, as I've never been a BA player, and they're a bit of a mystery to me, so my advice will be predicated on you not taking allies for a moment here.

So, with 50 infantry squads worth of models and a CCS means you ALMOST have a critical mass for a foot horde at this points level. If you could get up to three full PISs, along with the two PCSs and CCS, you'd have just barely a strong enough core to pull it off. Furthermore, you'd have basically enough special and heavy weapons for 6 las/plas PISs, which is a pretty good start, firepower-wise. Pick up a few cheap special or heavies from somewhere to rig up the officer squads, and you'll be good to go.

Alternately, you have two proper mechvet squads. Fidget things around, and you could have four vet squads, three in chimeras, and one in your flier. That's enough vets for a solid core. Best part is that you already have the correct amount of lascannons, you'd just need to once again acquire a few more heavies (if there's any way you can get your hands on meltagunners, or build up your conversion skills to the point where you can buy the bitz and make some, that would be great).

Plus, if things are really going goofy for you, you could always drop the CCS and have your commissar step in as a lord commissar.

Once you've got this done, you can look into your support choices. If you've taken the mech route with a lord commissar and flier, you're going to be looking a five somewhat lightly armed russes, or four heavily armed ones. I know that you have russes at your disposal. You'll already have good mid-strength firepower with all those plasma guns, so I think I'd go for either naked demolishers, or for las/multimelta russes of a non-ornance route, like your pask exterminator or a vanquisher or something.

Basically, you've got just enough models that, with a few modifications or a few minor purchases, you can get a pretty solid russ+mech or russ+foot list put together.

Now, if we want to get back into the world of BA, I can't give you quite as much advice. Having some deepstriking melta dudes would be a nice addition to a foot list, as it gives you a bit of reach, while I could perhaps see some BA vehicles to support an armored wall list.

Anyways, if you want a concrete example of a list, the best I can come up with off the top of my head is...

Lord commissar - 2x plasma pistols

Vets - 3x flamers, demolitions (ride in vendetta)
Vets - 3x meltas, lascannon, chimera, stubber
Vets - 3x plasma, lascannon, chimera, stubber
Vets - 3x plasma, lascannon, chimera, stubber

Vendetta - heavy bolters

Exterminator - lascannon, multimeltas, pask

Demolisher - lascannon

Vanquisher - lascannon, multimeltas (use your LRBT model)
Vanquisher - lascannon, multimeltas (use the new one you're getting, just don't glue it down).

Aegis - quadcannon

All you'd need to do for this is a little bit of proxying with your hull and sponson weapons for your tanks, and you'd need to tac on a few heavy stubbers for your chimera (you probably have them still lying around), and for you to get your hands on 3 meltagunner troops.

And that's not a terrible list for 1850 points, especially when given the model restrictions you have to deal with.

I think the best furioso scheme is the droppod fragnought. Claw dreadnoughts have delivery issues. If you drop them,they stand there and not do much. And then eat melta to the face. :\