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Hey guys, a friend of mine wants to use 30 Lootas and a Dakkajet in a 1000 points game, he wants to dump the lootas in an aegis defense line.
What would be the best way to deal with this at this points level?

I was thinking 2 Furioso dreads with frag cannons and heavy flamers might help, and a land raider crusader or redeemer is looking pretty good too.

Any advice?

go for the furiosos in drop pod, they will smack their arses. Just try to have 3 drop pods to be able to send the 2 furiosos on turn 1.

Land Raider Crusaider(mm)+ 10 man death company squad(2 fists)+reclusiarch sounds about right. Round it out with 2 assault squads w Razorbacks w las/plas and a whirlwind.

You've got a few options here. Those Furiosos are a good one, but as mentioned, in drop pods so they're right on top of them. A single, large tough unit in a Land Raider Crusader (Death Company works, as would Lightning Claw Termies) will be able to reach them without much to fear in the way of armour penetration. Stick a Chaplain or Reclusiarch in to maximise your damage on the charge.

Sternguard in pods would also work - combi-flamers, a heavy flamer or two and then the Ignores Cover ammo being the order of the day.
Lastly, Baal Predators and Whirlwinds would work wonders as long as you can prevent shots against the side or rear armour - not too difficult.

in a 1k game? He has a wopping ~350 points after an HQ choice for troops lol. Willing to bet his HQ would be his only pklaw since he wouldnt have more than 2 12man boyz groups if he got pklaws in them, they wouldnt do jack squat in that low a number.

Just get a land raider or two and turtle up the field. He wouldnt do anything at all to that except with his boss or SAG and you can pick that off fairly easy when its on its own

can BA take thunderfire cannons?

if so, there is your answer. the ADL is usless against a weapon that ignores cover. = dead Lootas.

Mephiston

Thanks Guys, your comments are really appreciated, I have a land raider and 15 DC, plus I can play Lemartes as a plain old chaplain (if he can sub boyz for Lootaz why not)

I was thinking LRC but was also thinking maybe a Redeemer might give him the proverbials, always wanted to try a flamestorm cannon to the nads.

I was thinking of using Devs with plasma cannons or Lascannons for hunting the shokk gun or warboss, but maybe ML will be better. To be honest almost all my experience is with dealing with either Ork CC swarms or Chaos SM. The huge number of dice the Lootaz can potentially throw I don't like.

He is a bit of a d*ck for using 30 lootas in 1k game, forget drop pods and dreads, Bring LR or two and watch him scratch your paint, Since he will have very little in that force to deal with av14, now one could say that an LR in a small game is not playing nice......but 30 lootas and dakka jet is just wrong, and this is coming from the ork player

hexblade wrote:
He is a bit of a d*ck for using 30 lootas in 1k game, forget drop pods and dreads, Bring LR or two and watch him scratch your paint, Since he will have very little in that force to deal with av14, now one could say that an LR in a small game is not playing nice......but 30 lootas and dakka jet is just wrong, and this is coming from the ork player

No he is not a dick but he has forgotten the good mantra we warbosses like use pre battle "boyz before toyz".

Landraider reedemer/crusader would be a good choise. There is very little he can do to it and you can easily negate everything he has. Park near objective and then disembark when it's turn 5 and claim victory.

I am looking at something like the following:
Reclusiarch
Furioso in drop pod with Frag cannon, blood fist, & stormbolter upgraded to heavy flamer
10 DC with a PF & LR Crusader with MM
10 Assault Marines with 2 Flamers.

Criticism and suggestions are most welcome


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He appears to be taking
20 Lootaz
warboss w PC
Big Mek w KFF
Looted Wagon with gun upgrade & ace upgrade
Dakkajet with additional supashoota
Aegis defence line (not sure if he is taking quad gun with that
And the rest on Boyz.

Should I take the BA army as I have listed, or does anyone have suggested changes?

Or possibly this army.
Reclusiarch
9 DC
10 Assault Marines 2 flamers without JP
1 Landraider/LRC w MM
1 Landraider Redeemer w MM

Use the LRs if he's going to bring 30 lootas. Is this 30 loota list his TAC list? If so, you should try to play again with a BA TAC list. I bet it won't go so well.

Just kill his two troop choices and sit back and win the game. The Land raider will never get hurt unless his boss gets close and the only way that happens is if you let him.

Yes, that was my plan, make him come out and play. He always likes to sit back behind cover and shoot. His normal army is DA

Well, we had the game on Sunday.
Using the battle missions book he rolled the waaagh scenario.
The DC killed the Warboss, Big Mek, and 10 boyz and 3 lootaz.
He killed 7 DC with fire, and the Warboss had immobilized the LRC, at this point he asked to call the game a draw on turn 4, as his two PC guys were cut to ribbons and his looted wagon was on one HP. I had the option to roll the other LRR full of assault marines and snag three objectives that were randomly placed, but he really wanted to finish the game on turn 4 ;-)

Good show, friend!

Well done, but...in no way was that a draw :p it sounds like theguy needed to be taught the lesson, if so I'd have insisted on continuing or forcing a surrender.

Yeah, he did not think the eternal war secondary objectives should apply to the battle missions book. I personally think they should

The trouble with this is, battle missions isn't written for 6th ed. They're optional too and as such, you really need to agree on how they're used...preferably before you even pick your list, but definitely at least roll off for it before deployment if you can't come to an agreement.

Yes, I think they need to FAQ those books such as city fight, planetary assault, and battle missions for 6th. They are a lot more fun than the standard missions