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HQ Lord
MoS

HQ Demon Prince
wings
black mace
Demon of Nurgle

Elites Hellbrute
lascannon
ml

Elites Hellbrute
lascannon
ml

Troops Noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML
VoLW
add CCW

Troops Noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML
VoLW
add CCW

Troops Noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML
VoLW
add CCW

Heavy Support obliterators (2)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Heavy Support obliterators (2)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Heavy Support obliterators (2)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Fast Attack Helldrake
baleflamer

Fast Attack raptors (5)
2 melta

Fast Attack raptors (5)
2 melta
Total 2015 pts. Need to do it as 2000 pts list.
I put demon prince and raptors in it for counter assault role. I'm thinking about ways to put Masque in it.

Hello,

Thoughts are...
Three troops is not enough at the 2000 pts level, and with such small units will only be capable of objective sitting or snaffling one an objective has been cleared by others. It appears to be a very expensive way to get three blastmasters - especially when you have the baleflamer to ignore cover.

Taking three units of obliterators appears a bit out of place. Since you have the points you could tool up three units of havocs to fulfil the obliterators choice of weapons and just lay down much more fire generally.

The helbrutes with the lascannon are an expensive way to get some decent weapons. The points you have invested in them could be spend on another marine unit to unlock the double FOC and let you consider taking more heavy support, which will suit your overall theme - 6 unit of havocs or 3 and 3 preds/vindicators would probably laydown more firepower than the current force list.

Raptors look good, demon prince looks expensive (and the winged models is awful) but unfortunatley they are! Personally I would have tooled up the lord as he is a bit of a wuss at the moments.

 Jasper wrote:
Hello,

Thoughts are...
Three troops is not enough at the 2000 pts level, and with such small units will only be capable of objective sitting or snaffling one an objective has been cleared by others. It appears to be a very expensive way to get three blastmasters - especially when you have the baleflamer to ignore cover.

Taking three units of obliterators appears a bit out of place. Since you have the points you could tool up three units of havocs to fulfil the obliterators choice of weapons and just lay down much more fire generally.

The helbrutes with the lascannon are an expensive way to get some decent weapons. The points you have invested in them could be spend on another marine unit to unlock the double FOC and let you consider taking more heavy support, which will suit your overall theme - 6 unit of havocs or 3 and 3 preds/vindicators would probably laydown more firepower than the current force list.

Raptors look good, demon prince looks expensive (and the winged models is awful) but unfortunatley they are! Personally I would have tooled up the lord as he is a bit of a wuss at the moments.

The point in helbrutes is to full all slots with shooting units as much as i can and still have some anti-assault role units, such as raptors to deal with Land Raiders and some assault units. I put DPrince becose i do not believe i can deal with assault oriented army, and he (DP) is fast and good in killing stuff in CC.
Maybe i must think about double FOC roster, but like obliterators becose i can move and shoot and becose their survaivability. Yes, i can take 5 lascannons instead of 2 if i take Havocs as my Heavy Support choise, but they will die much more faster and they did not have all that weapon goodness such as plasma cannons, multi-meltas and double-melta, double-plasma.

Ok, after some thougths:
HQ Lord
MoS

Troops cultists (20)
2 flamers

Troops noise marines (10)
blast master (2)
rhino
HML
VoLW
add CCW

Troops noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML

Troops noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML

Troops noise marines (5)
blast master (1)
rhino
HML


Heavy Support obliterators (3)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Heavy Support obliterators (3)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Heavy Support obliterators (3)
veterans
mark of Nurgle

Fast Attack Helldrake
baleflamer

Fast Attack raptors (5)
2 melta

I think this will do better. I will try it on this weekend against IG gunline with 2 Vendettas.

What if you lump one squad of 5 noise marines with another so you have 10 men n 2 blastmasters, cut the cultist and incease the body count on the 4th nm squad, so you could have 4 squad of fearless 10 men each.