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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 12:25:30
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So this list has 16 models which may well preclude it from being competitive. But it is fast manouvrable and hits like a tonne of bricks:
Tzeentch Lord: Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Crown of Command, 3rd eye, disc 350
Khorne BsB: Charmed Shield, Barded Daemonic Mount 200
Nurgle Sorcerer: lvl2: Dispell Scroll Chariot 290
5 x Khorne Chariot 600
2 x Chimera: regen, breath weapon 550
5 Skullcrushers: enscorcelled weapons, musician, standard 410
Unkillable Lord, 6 chariots and 2 flying Hydras (because that's what the Chimera is). Backed up by a solid unit of the best cavalry in the game! What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 12:39:09
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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I think you're a disgusting human being who should be pimp slapped for it.
LOVE THE IDEA THOUGH!!!!!!
My thoughts on seriuos discussion:
1) Tzeentch or metal on lord?
2) Not sure why your Nurgle sorcerer is on chariot with no ward. yes there is other stuff to shoot but cannonball turn one, especially with no ward at all, even chimeras get regen, would be a priority target i think.
3) As before, understand why no crusher champ but makes BSB easier to isolate and bitch slap no?
4) love the idea but i'm not sure how well the list works against massed rank and file, unless 3-4 chariots get into one unit at the same time. decent hordes, such as other WoC, longbeards of even ironguts are going to hurt when they hit back.
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 13:37:11
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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1) Lord is fighty plows into biggest enemy unit and takes it out of the game.
2) I think Nurgle Lore is best for the army. Don't know where to find points to get him a ward. I could go Tzeentch on a disc.
3) As with above no points.
4) At 2400 my opponent has maybe 3 hordes more likely 2. My Lord takes one out of the game. Then Skullcrushers deal with another meaning chariots and Chimerae deal with the last.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 13:49:58
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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FlingitNow wrote:1) Lord is fighty plows into biggest enemy unit and takes it out of the game.
2) I think Nurgle Lore is best for the army. Don't know where to find points to get him a ward. I could go Tzeentch on a disc.
3) As with above no points.
4) At 2400 my opponent has maybe 3 hordes more likely 2. My Lord takes one out of the game. Then Skullcrushers deal with another meaning chariots and Chimerae deal with the last.
1) fair do's, didn't clock he's a lord, not sorcerer.
2) agreed on the lore of nurgle, armour of destiny plus Damonic Mount? same basic speed as chariot but can also march and actually makes him harder for cannons to hit. If not daemonic mount, how many points does he get for daemonic mutations and possessions? enough for Daemonic flight perhaps?
3) dropping the nurgle chariot gives you points to play with.....maybe.
4) a workable theory, depending on opponents ability.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/02/11 13:51:57
All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 14:07:39
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Flight is not an option unless you're a DP.
How about this for Nurgle Sorcerer:
Lvl2: Scroll, barded DM, Opal Amulet, dragon helm. 255
That enables a champion and dawnstone on the BsB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 14:37:24
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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I think the nurgle build is better for you.
Dawnstone on the BSB is nice but won't adding a champ take away the LOS for the BSB?
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 15:20:54
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Yes but he does have a charmed shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/11 16:29:19
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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considering the speed of the crushers he should be fine then, concentrated cannon fire from dwarves may hurt but not much you can do about that.
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 23:49:30
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So here's the list then:
Tzeentch Lord: Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Crown of Command, 3rd eye, soul feeder, disc 365
Khorne BsB: Charmed Shield, Barded Daemonic Mount, Dawnstone 225
Nurgle Sorcerer: lvl2: Dispell Scroll, barded DM, Opal Amulet, dragon helm. 255
5 x Khorne Chariot 600
2 x Chimera: regen, breath weapon 550
5 Skullcrushers: enscorcelled weapons, musician, standard 410
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 07:43:41
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Good list.
That Tzeentch lord won't annoy anyone much
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/16 13:45:36
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
alabama
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you see if this was 6th-7th edition all chariot list would be awesome. but anything that has a rank your going to lose to. stubborn killed the all chariot list. i have a beastman chariot army with 24 chariots. i live and die by impact hits because after the first round of combat you loose all sustainability. i found that you cant throw all the eggs in one charge you must pace yourself with 2-3 chariots charging in, then next round 2-3 more chariots charging in again because by that second round you are loseing at least one chariot. beastman chariots are a lil more softer but still the str 5 impact hits that chaos chariots do. but then again i didnt have chimeras or skullcrushers so i dont exactly know how this would work in a competitive enviroment. i think the list would be a definate for fun games but an idk-to a no on competitive play. played the beastman list in a gt and went 2-2-1. won against old ogre kingdoms, old OnG. lost to Old empire twice. Tied against highelves. the empire games were both against twin steam tanks when they were still awesome...this was in 2010 btw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/17 00:41:04
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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I myself run 6x lion chariots, so with that in mind. What is the punching power of the khrone chariot. I have not had a chance to hit the local GW store up to read up on the new WoC and or even had a chance to discuss this with any of the local players.
The thing that boost my chariots is there ability to fight after the impact hits.
D6 impact hits
2 asf str 6 hits
4 int 5 str 5 lion hits.
When you start stacking chariots like this, units tend to vanish before something can assist them.
I know you get D6 impact hits, but what else does the khorn chariot offer?
I would say this is a strong list in that it has other units just as strong to address cannons etc. The only advantage I would have against you would be vauls,, and or hold your magic at bay while we fight it out on the open plains....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/17 09:50:32
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Khorne chariot has d6+1 impact hits at S5 6 more S5 attacks from warriors and 4 S4 attacks from horse. Is T5 has 4 wounds and a 3+ save. All round for me they hit harder than lion chariot and are tougher and cheaper  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/17 11:17:45
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Shesh, that kinda ruff.. I just hope they update the cost of mine after seeing that thing.
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Biomass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/17 23:36:03
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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The gorebeast with Khorne is the same as the lion chariot. It is T6 W5 and 3+ save. Pumps out 10 S5 attacks and has the d6+1 impact hits. But is only movement 6 that's the weakness s the lion chariot is quicker and does better against high toughness and 1+ saves. But the chaos chariots are beastly. I expect them to feature heavily on the tournament scene.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/18 12:32:23
Subject: Re:2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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I kinda agree with fling.
I think chariots will feature on the tourney scene, not convinced the gorebeast will though. as beasty as it is i think its extra expense and slower speed will keep it out.
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/18 12:35:53
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I think the existence of the Chimera also reduces how much the gorebeast will be seen particularly as the normal chariot is core.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/18 12:38:45
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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FlingitNow wrote:I think the existence of the Chimera also reduces how much the gorebeast will be seen particularly as the normal chariot is core.
Exactly my thinking. Why would someone invest in gorebeasts when they can take chimeras?
Also i really think chariots will survive artillery because lets face it. if cannons have the choice, they'll be shooting DP's and Skullcrushers over chariots everytime.
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/18 16:51:22
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Araqiel
London, UK
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The only thing I would say in favour of the gorebeasts is the killing blow on the impact hits, which is like the icing on the cake.
I was considering running all chariots, although this is better. And the lord on the disc is horrible, well done.
Hobby reaper of the week award is on the way, in its special presentation box filled with the blood of noobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/19 07:38:02
Subject: 2400 WoC Chariots of ire competitive
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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ghpoobah wrote:The only thing I would say in favour of the gorebeasts is the killing blow on the impact hits, which is like the icing on the cake.
I was considering running all chariots, although this is better. And the lord on the disc is horrible, well done.
Hobby reaper of the week award is on the way, in its special presentation box filled with the blood of noobs.
Wouldn't be the frist time Fling has deserved an award of this nature
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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