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Is Texas making a fair point about the subject or is it a pipe dream? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/we-want-to-be-alone-the-texas-independence-movement-wants-americas-second-largest-state-to-leave-the-union-8492246.html

125,000 petition signatures sounds like a lot, but it's pressing a button on a computer - how many millions of people forwarded that Kony 2012 thing, but it was a novelty, and underneath there was a complete absence of people willing to do the hard work needed to do something meaningful. When it came to doing something that is kind of inconvenient and almost means something, these people got a whopping 200 people to turn up for a rally.

There is no real movement here, just a bunch of fringe nutters.

Pipe dream. If anything, the dream in every Texan's heart is re-unification with England!

On a more serious note, I think Texas has bigger problems on its hands (not Frazz) but rather, the escalation of the Mexican drug wars. The reports I've been reading in the news, paints a grim picture, and Texas could be one giant military base for the national guard at this rate.

While you're at it. We'd like New York back.

You can keep New Jersey though, we don't want that back.

Like all such movements, it's going to quickly splinter into the serious minded, rational faction and the paranoids. Reading that article, I didn't exactly see a lot of rationale being put forward for secession. What I did see was tired yet predictable venom towards Obama.

These guys remind me somewhat of Keven Smith, who completely coincidentally realized he hated critics after his first bad reviews. Where were they 10 years ago when a native son ruled the land?

 Wolfstan wrote:
Is Texas making a fair point about the subject or is it a pipe dream? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/we-want-to-be-alone-the-texas-independence-movement-wants-americas-second-largest-state-to-leave-the-union-8492246.html

No. This is old news.
1. Only a few nutjobs really want it. Now if we could get out without the national debt it would be a good deal. We do like our independence though from you damnyankees (thats a technical term).
2. The nations of the world would not permit it. After we permitted Canada, Central America, and South America to join the new nation of Greater Texas, Scotland and Ireland would join, and we would have no choice but to restart the Napoleonic campaigns. Its what we do.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Pipe dream. If anything, the dream in every Texan's heart is re-unification with England!

On a more serious note, I think Texas has bigger problems on its hands (not Frazz) but rather, the escalation of the Mexican drug wars. The reports I've been reading in the news, paints a grim picture, and Texas could be one giant military base for the national guard at this rate.

yea there's serious gak down there, and its spreading now.

 Soladrin wrote:
While you're at it. We'd like New York back.

You can keep New Jersey though, we don't want that back.

Package deal, man.

New York never belonged to the Dutch. New Amsterdam, on the other hand...

People that always speak ill of New Jersey clearly have never been to Cape May. I got to pass out on a couch owned by Napoleon there!

 Wolfstan wrote:
Is Texas making a fair point about the subject or is it a pipe dream? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/we-want-to-be-alone-the-texas-independence-movement-wants-americas-second-largest-state-to-leave-the-union-8492246.html

It's bs that pops up every election cycle. Old news. Nothings ever going to happen.

 Soladrin wrote:
While you're at it. We'd like New York back.

You can keep New Jersey though, we don't want that back.

Sorry, they're a package. And Snooki is included.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

We'll throw Frazzled in too if England promises to make all Scotsman wear pants.

 Grey Templar wrote:
We'll throw Frazzled in too if England promises to make all Scotsman wear pants.

The English have been trying that for centuries.

 purplefood wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
We'll throw Frazzled in too if England promises to make all Scotsman wear pants.

The English have been trying that for centuries.

Didn't the Lowlanders wear pants? I imagine the Highlanders avoided sitting in snow whenever possible...

 Frazzled wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
We'll throw Frazzled in too if England promises to make all Scotsman wear pants.

The English have been trying that for centuries.

Didn't the Lowlanders wear pants? I imagine the Highlanders avoided sitting in snow whenever possible...

It's a Northern English tradition that migrated north with the clans when they were pushed north...

As a (lowlander) Scot, that's one of the things that really kind of annoyed me...

The reality of a lot of the stuff (as I understand it), is really quite interesting.

Sure, the big giant kilts - the things that go over your shoulder - have always been a highland thing.

However, the modern day kilt people wear nowadays was, if not THE first, but one of the early, if not the most popular attempts at creating clothing branding... A bit like your football strips with your families on them. It was pretty much a wholly commercial thing.

On top of that, there's another thing that really bugs me about trying to manufacture this whole Scottish identity thing.
A few years back, the local councils went through this phase of adding alternative Gaelic spellings under all train station signs and things.

In the lowlands... we don't, nor have we ever, spoken Gaelic! We spoke, and still speak, Scots. And the Scots spelling for most place names... is pretty much the same as the English spelling.

Sorry for the rant, it's a pet peeve of mine.

What, whats "Scots?"

The best examples of the Scots language would be the poems and songs of Robert Burns.

You likely know some Scots yourself and sang one of his songs oh... a month and a half ago.

 Compel wrote:
The best examples of the Scots language would be the poems and songs of Robert Burns.

You likely know some Scots yourself and sang one of his songs oh... a month and a half ago.

So its basically English with a bunch of marbles in your mouth when speaking?

 Frazzled wrote:

 Compel wrote:
The best examples of the Scots language would be the poems and songs of Robert Burns.

You likely know some Scots yourself and sang one of his songs oh... a month and a half ago.

So its basically English with a bunch of marbles in your mouth when speaking?

No worse than Texan...

Naw, you can clearly understand a Texan speaking from 2 miles away.

 purplefood wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Compel wrote:
The best examples of the Scots language would be the poems and songs of Robert Burns.

You likely know some Scots yourself and sang one of his songs oh... a month and a half ago.

So its basically English with a bunch of marbles in your mouth when speaking?

No worse than Texan...

No I'm saying its basically English with a Scottish accent? Maybe some different spellings of words and such?

I always wanted to go to Texas
All this reminds me of the Quebec attempt to succeed back in the 90s, though that whole thing went down in the last election after they lost about 40 seats

*secede*

Seriously, if you don't know what the word is, just say 'leave'.

Uh, don't let the door hit you on the way out, and good luck with Mexico?

 Frazzled wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Compel wrote:
The best examples of the Scots language would be the poems and songs of Robert Burns.

You likely know some Scots yourself and sang one of his songs oh... a month and a half ago.

So its basically English with a bunch of marbles in your mouth when speaking?

No worse than Texan...

No I'm saying its basically English with a Scottish accent? Maybe some different spellings of words and such?

More a dialect of English

There's never been real agreement on the difference between a dialect and a language. But wikipedia gives a suggestion of 'it's a bit like the difference between Norwegian and Danish.'

My own acid test was giving some of my English friends a sample comic strip of 'Oor Wullie' and 'The Broons' and judging how confused they were.

They were very confused. As were some of the Welsh fowk.

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
I always wanted to go to Texas
All this reminds me of the Quebec attempt to succeed back in the 90s, though that whole thing went down in the last election after they lost about 40 seats

Texas is a really cool state.

 whembly wrote:

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
I always wanted to go to Texas
All this reminds me of the Quebec attempt to succeed back in the 90s, though that whole thing went down in the last election after they lost about 40 seats

Texas is a really cool state.

don't have much of a winter from what I understand