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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 22:30:34
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Overlord,scythe,MSS,semp,orb-160
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
Veiltek-60
360
Overlord,scythe,MSS,semp,orb-160
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
Lancetek-35
300
TROOPS
10x Warriors-130
10x Warriors-130
10x Warriors-130
10x Warriors-130
10x Warriors-130
650
FAST
3x Heavy destroyers-180
3x Heavy destroyers-180
3x Heavy destroyers-180
540
1850
Think this is a plausible list?
8 str 8 ap 2 shots at 36'',9 str 9 ap 2 shots at 36''.There won't be much of anything threatening to reach rapid fire range.
This list would excel at taking out vehicles,monstrous creatures and heavy infantry from a range and then dealing the coup de grace within 24-12".
Even flyers would have to deal with a lot of firepower.And for anything in the back field,there is 10 warriors waiting to veil over and say hello.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 00:34:50
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Flyer lists own you as they shoot first. 17 at shots isn't that many. Guard laugh at your fire power and you're not stopping a horde. Storm shield Terminators cause you a massive problem as all your ap2 shots kill on average about 3 Terminators. A massive single 10 man DW Knights unit walks through your list. As does light mech spam as you've not enough shots.
In a competitive environment your list is dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 01:18:50
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Irked Necron Immortal
Boston, Massachusetts
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Why not run 8-man Warrior units in Ghost Arks so you can turn them into mega-razorbacks?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:49:17
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FlingitNow wrote:Flyer lists own you as they shoot first. 17 at shots isn't that many. Guard laugh at your fire power and you're not stopping a horde. Storm shield Terminators cause you a massive problem as all your ap2 shots kill on average about 3 Terminators. A massive single 10 man DW Knights unit walks through your list. As does light mech spam as you've not enough shots.
In a competitive environment your list is dead.
Wow, what a respectfully put, filled with inaccuracies, not constructive at all, comment.
He has 50 Gauss Flayers to go along with those 17 S8/9 AP 2 shots, and 9 of those have Preferred Enemy, so the truth is he's killing one average 3.75 SS Terms at >24", 6.52 SS Terms at 12<x><24" and 9.30 SS Terms <12." Also those Heavy D's will kite Terms all day long. Terms really aren't a challenge for this list unless it's like a full Deathwing army, which isn't competitive in the first place.
Light Mech Spam? Against 17 shots that can insta kill any vehicle to go along with 50/100 Gauss shots? Seriously?
Anyway...
The list has some good ideas. One thing I would highly recommend if you are going to go for max range is go ahead and get those two Solar Pulses for your Lance Teks. I know they aren't as popular in 6th but your list is perfectly primed to get the most out of them.
Another suggestion is work in some HGC Stalkers. The range is perfect for the list and they play really well with mass Gauss and Lanceteks (and even buff the Heavy D's a bit if you really need to take out a prime target).
If you're going to kit the Overlords like that I would split your last group of 10 warriors into making the Overlords groups 15 strong each. Then I would work in some Phaeron. That, or strip the CC upgrades completely. You either want to avoid CC, or actually be able to do something. Being able to double tap and assault makes a bigger difference against most targets then either the WS or the MSS upgrade.
Finally, Doomsday Arcs play well in a list like this as well, especially if you work in the Stalkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 16:12:04
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Dakka Veteran
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Heavy Destroyers are terrible.
Who really enjoys paying 60 points for a T5 model with a 3+ save. ewe. You could potentially lose that unit to a round of bolter fire from tactical marines.
Edit: Why not take Stalkers with Heavy Guass instead? Much more durable and gives benefits to the rest of your army.
Edit 2: You need space for a pair of Annihilation Barges for anti-flyer (or put some warriors in Nightscythes)
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/02/14 16:13:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 00:36:48
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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This post really drew a lot of hatred.
First off it was an idea, a gimmick,not for competitive play although with a few tweeks i couldmake this work and win.
heavy destroyers are extremely valuable and survivable option,if they stay 36" away and behind or in cover they can kill everything that can hurt them at long range and then run away fro everything they can't kill
I love the idea of stalkers in the list.
And beefing up the overlord squads is a good idea too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 15:07:46
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Sinewy Scourge
Murfreesboro, TN
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Played a list not to different than this a few weeks ago with my venomspam DE in a tournament (though it had a few improvements). At the end of turn 5 he was left with a unit of 5 warriors and a single cryptek. I had only lost 1 unit of 5 wracks and a couple of venoms.
All the heavy destroyers died the first turn of shooting with firepower to spare.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 15:40:59
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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FOW Player
Frisco, TX
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Heavy Destroyers are kinda weird here, but this could work as a wall of AV13 type list.
HQ
Zahndrekh
Overlord w/ scythe, orb, MSS, semp
2x Courts w/ 4 lances, 1 chrono
Elites
2 Stalkers
Troops
2x15 Warriors in Arks
2x5 Warriors
Courts go in the Arks and go pew pew, Z and Overlord join the big units and sit in front of the Arks, Stalkers give you melta and TL weapons.
It's not great and really misses the Annihilation Barges, but it would be interesting to run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 20:31:48
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Flingitnow is right. This army has issues and is not working in a competitive environment. Hands down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 20:55:27
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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This is almost a pretty specific list. If an army can keep out of the death range, or had enough bodies to be able to enter it and win, then you have lost. Any sort of Guard Leman Russ heavy or Vendetta heavy list will put a hurt on this thanks to the blasts and the range.
It would be interesting to run, but if it fails then it's gonna fail hard. But, if it wins, it's going to win epicly.
Heavy Destroyers are a bit weird as others have said, because they tend to either die really fast or last a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 21:03:15
Subject: Re:36" Necrons 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am gonna try a Tremortek list this weekend vs Daemons. I'll post my 48"+ range Necron army to be critisized
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/16 05:39:17
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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I like this list idea, while maybe not as competitive as spam all the broken units I think it can still win.
Destroyers and Heavy destroyers are actually quite good in 6th edition. They get shot up very quickly because if your opponent doesn't shoot them they will put a hurt on valuable targets. A full 5 man blob of destroyers take a sizable chunk out of any tactical squad.
I have been wondering about 2 full courts of destruction teks and how viable they would be. 9 almost lascannon shots that can be precision strikes is a powerful tool. You can then snipe power weapons and ICs from squads. I would agree that with all the shots you have TL from at least 2 stalkers would do wonders for your army. It makes sure your crypteks actually hit (mine wiff like theres no tomorrow rolling 1s and 2s all the time). As for flyers you can sit at 36" and blast them from the sky with 17 shots 3 of them statistically will hit a flyer ( didnt do mathhammer just basic division). Which should bring them down. The court squads can join warrior blobs and hope for a skyfire objective and then your chances get even better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/16 14:13:43
Subject: 36" Necrons 1850
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Drop pod armies would ruin your day.
Well, anything deep striking, really.
or with better range.
or... yeah, this list is gonna have some problems.
If you do end up playing with it, do something about those Warriors. ResOrbs in units less than 15 are a waste.
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