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Regular Dakkanaut




NE TN

So, for whatever reason, I have quite the passion for squats and dwarves in general. Why they are not included in the current game is well beyond me.
I've been assembling parts for various lists and I think I have finally settled on one that fits the stunty bastards best. It is a CSM force splashing Necrons and is designed with a bit of competition in mind. Where I need help, however, is filling in some of the models that I can't decide on. Here is what I'm running:

Necron Destroyer Lord (using this handsome fellow: http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Kings-of-War/Abyssal-Dwarfs/Product/Abyssal-Half-Breed-Lord-Blister.html)
x6 Wraiths (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Kings-of-War/Abyssal-Dwarfs/Product/Abyssal-Dwarf-Halfbreeds-10-Figures.html)

x5 Necron Warriors (FW Chaos Dwarves with rifles (they pull off sci-fi pretty easily))
x5 Necron Warriors
x2 Nightscythes (2 of these fused together with the telescope serving as a gun: http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARHAMMER-BIN-BITS-SKULLVANE-MANSE-OBSERVATORY-/360579931076?pt=Games_US&hash=item53f43d1bc4 basically a ball of doom lol)

x60 Nurgle Zombies (using standard retro GW squats. I realize they can't use their guns, but I can't leave them on the shelf)

Heres the stuff I need some help with:
Typhus Plaguebringer
x5 Chaos Spawn
Khorne Juggernaut Lord
x2 Helldrakes

Crazily enough, I'm currently considering using the Mantic bear cav with ridiculous Dakkajet wings to serve as the Helldrakes... help me!

 
   
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter




Seattle

Why they are not included in the current game is well beyond me.


Because they were all eaten by Tyranids (fluff) and because the Dwarves in Space idea doesn't mesh with the current grim-dark feel of the meta, and so the studio has pretty much cut them out of the universe.

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magodedisco wrote:
Why they are not included in the current game is well beyond me.


Because the models looked stupid (much like a lot of the early stuff), apparently didn't sell very well, and GW didn't have any good ideas for how to redesign them once they started making 40k a "serious" game. The only reason anyone cares about them is the perceived rarity and "good old days" factor, if GW had kept the models in production everyone would just complain about those ugly squats that nobody ever buys.

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Dwarf slayer on a juggernaut? Why not? No idea on typhus, but I like the heldrake idea. Spawn could be gretching with some extra green stuff arms+appendages?
   
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter




Seattle

They sold better than some other armies of the era, incidentally, but simply don't fit into the current fluff. Which makes sense, because they were shaping up to be yet another special-snowflake faction that gaks all over the established lore of things like the Ecclesiarchy and the Mechanicus.

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Regular Dakkanaut




Massachusetts

Hmm, just out of curiosity, how exactly to you see necrons and CSM as the best representatives of squats in current 40K?

Keep in mind this is just one man on the internet's opinion, so it's worth like 1/4 of a real person's opinion, but I don't see how in, particular, the necron rules fit with squats and their fluff. It seems like that choice may have been made entirely with competition in mind, as I just don't see how rules like living metal or RP fit with squats in any way. I just feel like IG (because squats LOVED tanks) or even orks (because squats LOVED bikes) have rules which fit squats much better.

All that being said the Rule of Cool always prevails, and if you model them up to look awesome, it won't matter one bit what you say they are.

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Heroic Senior Officer





Western Kentucky

To be honest, if you're trying to make a squat army that is as true to the background and the old units as possible, I would think you would use Dark Angels with IG allies. No joke.

Dark angles would give you your battle eggs (termis), your bikers (duh) and the crapton of tanks and regular infantry with support weapons (IG).

That way stuff looks like what it's supposed to, and it would still be a pretty strong pairing to be honest. No idea what kind of list I would run off the top of my head (have absolutely zero interest in space marines of all flavors) but it does give you a chance to model a squad riding a kickass hoverbike.

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Sniping Hexa




Dublin

Fluff wise, the Demiurg feel a lot like space dwarves
Giant flying factory/mining ships, very resilient if quite slow and ponderous
lots of high tech firepower and mining lasers used for warfare
They use a lot of automatons and other weird and heretical mechanical devices to compensate for their very low numbers

Game wise, they indeed were kind of Imperial guards with M3 / T4 / Ld9 with some Space Marines like toys (exo-armoured chaos trike elite squat strike force !)

 
   
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 MrMoustaffa wrote:
To be honest, if you're trying to make a squat army that is as true to the background and the old units as possible, I would think you would use Dark Angels with IG allies. No joke.

Dark angles would give you your battle eggs (termis), your bikers (duh) and the crapton of tanks and regular infantry with support weapons (IG).

That way stuff looks like what it's supposed to, and it would still be a pretty strong pairing to be honest. No idea what kind of list I would run off the top of my head (have absolutely zero interest in space marines of all flavors) but it does give you a chance to model a squad riding a kickass hoverbike.


I agree with all of the above, because reasons.

Also, If you had planned on playing squats, why are you buying any models other than Mantic's AWESOME Forge-Fathers (Which *are* Space Dwarves!)
   
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator




Hatfield, PA

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
To be honest, if you're trying to make a squat army that is as true to the background and the old units as possible, I would think you would use Dark Angels with IG allies. No joke.

Dark angles would give you your battle eggs (termis), your bikers (duh) and the crapton of tanks and regular infantry with support weapons (IG).

That way stuff looks like what it's supposed to, and it would still be a pretty strong pairing to be honest. No idea what kind of list I would run off the top of my head (have absolutely zero interest in space marines of all flavors) but it does give you a chance to model a squad riding a kickass hoverbike.


Have to agree here. This would be one of the best ways to represent the actual feel of squats. It seems like the necrons/CSM combo was picked for maximum tournie cheese competitiveness and not really because it provided any kind of actually feel of the original squats in general. To me the OP's list looks more like "I want a cheese list, but will make them look like squats so people think I'm really making a nostalgic list instead".

Squats were pretty much short IG with support of bikes, attack bikes and exo-armour units (even some really dumb looking exoarmour squats on bikes...those were really terrible minis!). DA with IG allies, with your main troops made up of exo-armour squats (termies) and a ravenwing unit and your allied contingent filling the troop slots with IG infantry platoons using squat/converted dwarf minis would best represent how squats used to actually appear and play on the table.

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