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Vanilla doesn't 'have terraformers though

Anyway, I bet that given a reset you could all re-build your Houses/Villages/Manufactorums/Mage Towers/Volcano Lairs/Biodomes/Angrydomes in the same time if not faster than I could convert the world (or one by one import every single thing) and test for block ids/item ids/biome ids/mob ids/world corruption/errors/lag/explosions.

Starting from scratch also eliminates the possibility of any nasty problems caused by a conversion.

As I've said before, after any update, I'll be releasing the world for download. If you want to have a stab at converting it, feel free, but in the meantime, we'd all be playing the update

It's not so much having to rebuild, as having to re-design the thing due to there inevitably being a different biome at 0,0. Last time it was a Red Rock desert, so I built a Red tower. This time it was an Ocean, so I'm building a Blue Tower. If the next one is in a Jungle or a Wasteland I'll need to build a Green or Brown tower, with a completely different design.

 darkinnit wrote:
Anyway, I bet that given a reset you could all re-build your Houses/Villages/Manufactorums/Mage Towers/Volcano Lairs/Biodomes/Angrydomes in the same time if not faster than I could convert the world (or one by one import every single thing) and test for block ids/item ids/biome ids/mob ids/world corruption/errors/lag/explosions.

The newest generation of technology is meat based. THE FUTURE IS MEAT.

I'm really hoping meat can be xycraft walls, and also makes a nice slap-slap-slap sound when you walk on it.

Also- For the Redorani structures and the Hlaaluan structures, maybe after the update you could use Hardened Clay for them? Smoother than sandstone, and you could get a brown color.

So, how plausible is it to completely live in another age? I really like the looks of the Barley Field biome.

Does hardened clay come in microblock form? The only reason I was using sandstone was for the blocks shapes. I seem to recall the texture pack that I used for Morrowind had them as mud structures (rather than stone), so brown would be preferably over sandy yellow.

I find it prefable to live in the overworld simply for the ease of looking at the map. If Darkinnit were to add an age made up entirely of the new biomes then I suspect that you would need to return to the overworld a lot to get resources that are set to only spawn in vanilla biomes (as the mods aren't all patch for the biome adding mods).

 4oursword wrote:
So, how plausible is it to completely live in another age? I really like the looks of the Barley Field biome.

Depends on the Age in question. I mean I think most ages can be made to have any kind of ores?

Grundz wrote:I'm really hoping meat can be xycraft walls

Xycraft isn't in 1.5 - we will have to wait till 1.6 for Xycraft.

Wyrmalla wrote:Does hardened clay come in microblock form? The only reason I was using sandstone was for the blocks shapes. I seem to recall the texture pack that I used for Morrowind had them as mud structures (rather than stone), so brown would be preferably over sandy yellow.

I find it prefable to live in the overworld simply for the ease of looking at the map. If Darkinnit were to add an age made up entirely of the new biomes then I suspect that you would need to return to the overworld a lot to get resources that are set to only spawn in vanilla biomes (as the mods aren't all patch for the biome adding mods).

Hardened clay is also 1.6 and as such there are no mods for it, yet.

The additional biomes work as "types" of vanilla biomes. So for example, a garden biome is probably a "type" of plains biome, and jaded cliffs is probably a "type" of extreme hills biome. Things that generate in those vanilla biomes also generate in the additional biomes.

Ah, oh yeah. For some reason I was thinking that it was in a mod pack. However it could work for flooring.

Were the additional biomes getting included within the overworld in your proposed 1.5 server? ...My thoughts over what each update would include are becoming a little convoluted.

I'm debating it myself.

If we went to 1.5, keeping the extra biomes to a separate age means that it slightly decreases the possibility of having to reset for 1.6. However, that then means we have to have an "overworld-b" age with all the extra strain on the server. If we do have to reset for 1.6 anyway, it may be fun to just enjoy a single crazy biome overworld while it lasts (although this does make vanilla biomes much rarer).

Biomes O' Plenty also has its own bonus dimension "The Promised Land"...

I'm guessing that it would probably be advisable to reset for 1.6 anyway, so moving the biomes to another age seems a little moot if you're trying to cut down on bugs. Its the question of what resources spawn in vanilla biomes and how much demand there is for them if they are indeed going to be rare I think. Then again vanilla biomes aren't at all common in the existing server, so maybe people don't care about the content added to them as much.

I think the coding for microblocks might work automatically with any vanilla blocks, which the hardened clay would be.

I hypothesize this because of the ways textures work, and how you can't place certain microblocks in certain places within the 'block'.

If there's no xycraft until 1.6, I vote we wait until 1.6.

if your saying we reset each update, tahts like saying no to big mega-builds.... this'll be the third time anvildude has started and its very annoying to see his work get wasted like this. maybe (like forgecraft) you could have 2 servers, one that gets updated and reset a lot and one not so much.

a lot of people were talking about rebuilding stuff from the lord of the rings, maybe we as a community could do something similar like morrowind like a lot of people are saying. we could get an age make it pure ocean and build the land down to the last stream. we could have both magic and tech in-lieu to make this massive area with some cool features.

yes this does go against my previous argument but the separate age is for more than just building. dark, is it possible to save an age while you reset the overworld and other ages, if so we could just save this one!

+1 for a reset without gregtech to 1.5 Ive reached the point where to make anything interesting I need to spend about 20 hours staring at a 3x3 square...

 Optio wrote:
+1 for a reset without gregtech to 1.5 Ive reached the point where to make anything interesting I need to spend about 20 hours staring at a 3x3 square...

This is the primary reason I went to AE storage, the autocrafting is necessary when higher end machines requires like 20 steps of construction.

I was thinking of having a public ME that would be cut off from my storage but would allow all the patterns from my interface, but couldn't figure it out.

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
if your saying we reset each update, tahts like saying no to big mega-builds.... this'll be the third time anvildude has started and its very annoying to see his work get wasted like this. maybe (like forgecraft) you could have 2 servers, one that gets updated and reset a lot and one not so much.

a lot of people were talking about rebuilding stuff from the lord of the rings, maybe we as a community could do something similar like morrowind like a lot of people are saying. we could get an age make it pure ocean and build the land down to the last stream. we could have both magic and tech in-lieu to make this massive area with some cool features.

yes this does go against my previous argument but the separate age is for more than just building. dark, is it possible to save an age while you reset the overworld and other ages, if so we could just save this one!

Some blocks are completely removed, and some new ones are added. For Darkinnit to replace them all is Herculean, even with Midas/MCedit. Dark already maintains two servers for us.

If I may suggest something, mega-builders should try to stick to vanilla blocks. That way, a copy is not out of the question no matter what mods stay or go.

 4oursword wrote:
For Darkinnit to replace them all is Herculean, even with Midas/MCedit.

Er, I'm not 100% sure here since I haven't done it yet, but with one person on skype I can have this hammered out in about an hour or two plus processing time

So dark what exactly are you waiting for? Nobodies playing the server cause anything they do won't affect gak. If we're an update behind I'm sure it'll be small and not too big to wait for. I just really want to play something, every game i play ATM is horribly boring due to a mix of horrible waiting and me being pre-occupied with games yet to even come out.

The 1.5 modpack isn't officially out yet. It's still in testing.

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Nobodies playing the server cause anything they do won't affect gak.

Actually, I'm not playing because I'm busy with IRL stuff. Otherwise I'd be on there building some gak right now.

Dark I know it's still not out but I'm guessing it's still playable, correct? How long will it take till the servers up?

...If we go for 1.5 that is. =P

Thought we did

The Dark Apostle wrote:Dark I know it's still not out but I'm guessing it's still playable, correct? How long will it take till the servers up?

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Iustis, I'm open for ideas on how (or if) to develop each of the biomes on my island.

Well red mountains like fortresses, so maybe extend the bunker out to the back and build up into one? Don't have to break the surface but it could be a nice living quarters with windows on the sides. There's another village out in the autumn forest so could fence that off and develop it a little. Savana I think should be nice the way it is. Maybe fence the boarder of it and just put a bunch of animals in there as a huge farm.

Wasteland obviously needs a factory complex. Maybe a bit away from the bunker instead of the forest village a more industrial one could be built with a decent wall around it. Dark in colour to look dreary with red banners done in micro blocks. Factories go in there.

Build any factories out of iron and stone and concrete if you can. For that industrial look.

Oh and a frame gate of course.