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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/26 02:15:47
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Elusive Dryad
California, USA
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Greetings, I have been asked to coordinate the return of Warhammer 40K to ConQuest Sac 2013! It will be a tournament sponsored by The Launchpad Comics & Games and will be run by First Born Gaming.
You can read all about it here http://conquestsac.com/blog/wh-40k/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/27 02:03:04
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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What makes ConQuest SAC so much fun are the dozens upon dozens of events run by dedicated game masters who bring these games to the community. Our event staff works with those GMs to bring some of the best game offerings to the show!
This year, our event staff consists of:
Miniatures: Don Delis, Mike O’Brien, and Bob Faust
Euro/Family Board and Card: Kevin Ellingson and Tracy Pinkleton
Wargames (Historical Board Games): Mark Ruggiero
Role Playing and Young Players: Venus DeCoy and Bob Linehan
Event Directors: Gabriel Vega (pre-show) and John Wootress (onsite)
To see the events we have scheduled to date, please follow this link!
http://conquestsac.gamecon.us/reg/Events.asp
Game submissions for ConQuest SAC are now open! Be sure and review the GM guidelines on this page before submitting your game, so you know what we can provide for you, as well as what is expected from you.
If you run eight hours of games (miniatures games include setup time), then we’ll let you in the show for free!
To submit an event, visit our events site at http://conquestsac.gamecon.us
We use a Time Block system with games starting every two hours. This link Event Time Blocks shows the time layout of the Time Blocks over the three days of ConQuest SAC. Note that games start at 10am on Friday, and 9am on Saturday and Sunday.
To sign up for Pathfinder Society Games follow this link.
To sign up for Living Forgotten Realms Games follow this link.
If you have any questions about the Event Submission process, please send them to events@conquestsac.com
Can someone lock or delete this post.
WARNING: Gabriel Vega aka Mondo Vega is a big scammer. I think no one here on dakka want to get scam by him again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/27 04:24:21
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Yeah, if Gabriel Vega is involved this should be cancelled. Just ask some of the TO's about him. Personal experience was crap as he turned a 2-day event into a 1-day event and changed the location at the last minute. Please close this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/27 22:09:03
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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This thread will remain unlocked because frankly whether there is a thread or not this event exists and it helps no one to simply pretend something doesn't exist.
So with that said:
It appears as though this event has the involvement of one Gabriel 'Mondo' Vega, who has had some serious issues in the past with Dakka members (and others).
If you'd like to read up a bit on it, here are some links:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/291265.page (the pertinent info is down near the bottom of this page)
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?9456-Word-of-Warning-about-Conquest-tournaments
http://bloodofkittens.com/2010/08/31/40k-douche-bag-mondo-vega-conquest-tournament-organizer/
So if you are considering attending this event, just keep this information in mind.
If anyone involved with the event would like to tackle this issue, then discussing the past is fair game in this thread.
However, otherwise (if nobody from the event wants to discuss this issue), please just let the past speak for itself and the thread continue on as-is.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 02:56:57
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Elusive Dryad
California, USA
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Thanks for your post and for keeping this open Yakface.
ConQuest Sac is where the tournament will be held. But no convention staff will be running the tournament. I cannot speak to any previous events, as I've only been to ConQuest 2012 and Pacificon 2012 and have had no problems of any kind.
The Launchpad Comics & Games is sponsoring the event and donating all the prizes. I am coordinating the tournament and have 3 close friends who have helped me run events in the past do the judging and such. Since this is the first time in some time that an organized 40K event has been done at ConQuest we (The Launchpad owners & myself) decided to do a smaller, more manageable tournament this time around. We are not charging a fee, because players will have to pay to get into the convention, and we didn't want to add to anyone's cost.
I hope this clears up any questions people may have. We look forward to seeing a full 16 players there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 03:34:55
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Gabriel "Mondo" Vega has ripped off a ton or people, and tried to rip me off, too. I was told Vega is running the 40K event which is BAD.
Is he handling money in any way, shape or form? If so, do yourself a favor and cut that off at the pass, he has proven to be extremely unethical. GW used him as an example for why they stopped supporting indie GTs, and that is first hand in a conversation I had with the GW employee that handled such things.
If he is associated with the event in any way, I will actively discourage people form going as like I said, the guy tried to cheat me personally out of money and I had to go agro on him to get it back. He has ripped off my friends as well, I couldn't in good faith NOT warn people about it.
What exactly is his involvement in the event?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 06:01:37
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I disagree with this post being re-opened. Based on who is involved in this event this thread should be closed with warnings plastered all over it. It's not pretending it doesn't exist. I didn't say delete the post but allowing it to be open shows tacit approval for the event. Known scammers aren't allowed to continue posting in the Swap Shop are they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 06:09:18
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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This is categorically different. Swap shop threads by scammers are the actual attempt to rip people off.
This thread is a discussion of an event which is taking place in the real world. Whether it is a real and well-intentioned event whose organizers may or may not have mistakenly associated themselves with a known scammer, or whether it's just another iteration of that dishonest person's old tricks, is yet to be established, as far as I can see.
A good summary of the history with that individual, and links to threads containing a lot more detail, are in the thread now. Anyone reading this thread has the information and ready access to more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 13:35:27
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I'd point out Mannahnin that the other events he was hosting were suppose to take place in the real world too. And quite a few didn't so it is a similar thing. He continued to take money for events he knew he was going to cancel right up until the week he cancelled the events and then it took pretty drastic measures to get your money back (if you did at all). Seems like an intention to rip people off to me in 2010-2011. It's running under the same event name that was used in 2010-2011 (Conquest). It's not old tricks. It's the same tricks. But hey, it's Yaks call I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 15:29:30
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
Los Angeles
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I think the idea of keeping it open is to keep it alive.
If you close it, then it gets buried and fewer will see the facts posted. The longer this stays near the top, the more people get to read about it, and therefor the greater impact.
I have been convinced to not attend based on Reece's and Yak's posts and I would hope others heed the warning as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 15:54:53
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Blood Lord Soldado wrote:I think the idea of keeping it open is to keep it alive.
If you close it, then it gets buried and fewer will see the facts posted. The longer this stays near the top, the more people get to read about it, and therefor the greater impact.
I have been convinced to not attend based on Reece's and Yak's posts and I would hope others heed the warning as well.
I heeded the warnings in years past and will continue to. I honestly only clicked on the thread because it had been locked. I like looking at threads that are locked to see what sort of shenanigans caused it to happen
Honestly both sides of that argument make sense to me. This thread being alive though will do nothing to encourage me to go, unless information is posted in this thread that tells us the individual in charge has been changed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 19:50:06
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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Gabriel "Mondo" Vega scam: First he will create a website for the event. within that website you got a list of name of people who is running stuff. those are more his victims than his partners. on the site, he will list a hotel,events,who doing what AND collect fee etc etc. He don't have a contract with the hotel at the time the website is up. (from pass exp when i call up the hotel to book a room, staff mistaken given out their contract condition to me) So really nothing is setup for the event except the people who running it, his first victims. He will promise a payment, fee, expense to those who is running it. If that expense is needed to get you there you will have it but anything after the event good luck. Those who running events for Mondo will have to provide everything to run the event. Next, a few things can happen to the event. First, what happen to his vegas event and his other conquest at Seattle the following year. cancel it and pocket all the fee. (i am still waiting for my refund) So players naturally want their money back. First, of cause, they contact Mondo but that a dead end. so next the contact who is running it for their refund. In this case, Launchpad Comics & Games will be liable for it. 2nd, change of location. Since he doesn't have a contact with the hotel so he can just pull a bait and switch. Host the event at some junkyard. He is not there for the event so whoever is running the event will have to deal with whatever he can comes up with. Then again Launchpad Comics & Games might be on hook for it. 3rd, He want the guy who is running stuff for his event to "pay for" or "on the hook" for the hotel. This one I actually know for fact cause he propose to us. Then the event will happen as plan but he is not the one paying for it . Basically his scam is a very simple one. a guy that don't have a pot to piss on so he is trying to talk his way into piss in your pot. He don't have money but talks like he is a big shot. I hope other can expand on his scam. Those are just what happen to me. so it will change for other people. edit by Janthkin: Let's try and stick with factual information, rather than unfounded guessing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 20:47:14
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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As a member of the gaming group in Seattle that had to back out of the ConquestNW a few weeks prior I can vouch to what Tylion said is fairly accurate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:37:31
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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The biggest point is the Monda's intent to scam whoever he can. U got bad TO just dont hv busi sense and ran out of money and bad things happen but Monda is not one of those. He is lying his way into money that why i call him and his event a scam not a bad run event Automatically Appended Next Post: Mannahnin wrote:This is categorically different. Swap shop threads by scammers are the actual attempt to rip people off.
This thread is a discussion of an event which is taking place in the real world. Whether it is a real and well-intentioned event whose organizers may or may not have mistakenly associated themselves with a known scammer, or whether it's just another iteration of that dishonest person's old tricks, is yet to be established, as far as I can see.
A good summary of the history with that individual, and links to threads containing a lot more detail, are in the thread now. Anyone reading this thread has the information and ready access to more.
He is actually activity attempt to rip people off. Is not just a stupid guy try to run an event and fail
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 22:06:25
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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He also told third parties that he was affiliated with our group on numerous occasions to get things he wanted. The nicest things I could say about Mondo would get my banned from this forum. Used car salesmen have more integrity than this man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 17:39:25
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Grain of Sand
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I am a friend of Faust and game with him on a weekly basis. I am also associated with the Launchpad. As far as Faust and his judges are concerned, I can honestly vouch for their sincerity in trying to bring a positive experience to the Warhammer community at Sac Conquest. I am upset that this tournament is so tainted in the community before it has even begun. Faust and I, along with the Launchpad staff and the judges, have discussed this tournament at length for months and there has been no talk of Mr. Vega collecting any money from Faust or the players outside of the entry fee to the convention.
I am very sorry that so many of you have been wronged by Mr. Vega but I beg of you not to immediately incriminate Faust, the Launchpad, and the tournament organizers along with Mr. Vega. We (The Launchpad and its supporters) strive to deliver a positive experience in all of our community interactions, whether it is a retail experience or game play in the game room at the shop. If you are leery of the tournament I strongly urge you to contact Faust and ask him questions. He will be happy to answer them.
Cody
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 17:55:53
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Speed Drybrushing
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From what I have read, the issue is not so much regarding the tournament, but rather the convention. If Conquest Sac is being run as is standard for cons, the money that players would have to pay to play in the tournament will be going to the convention organizers, NOT to the tournament group. That is the concern that people seem to be having here: they are worried that the convention hosting the tournament is a scam-in-process and/or they simply do not with for any more money to go into the hands of Mr. Vega.
I do not believe that anybody is trying to associate Launchpad, Mr. Faust, or anybody else involved with the 40K event with the prior actions of the convention organizer. The only thing bad that I personally would have to say about the event is that its max is set to 16 players, meaning it will probably fill up rather quickly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 20:04:47
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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DigitalArcanist wrote:I am a friend of Faust and game with him on a weekly basis. I am also associated with the Launchpad. As far as Faust and his judges are concerned, I can honestly vouch for their sincerity in trying to bring a positive experience to the Warhammer community at Pacificon. I am upset that this tournament is so tainted in the community before it has even begun. Faust and I, along with the Launchpad staff and the judges, have discussed this tournament at length for months and there has been no talk of Mr. Vega collecting any money from Faust or the players outside of the entry fee to the convention.
I am very sorry that so many of you have been wronged by Mr. Vega but I beg of you not to immediately incriminate Faust, the Launchpad, and the tournament organizers along with Mr. Vega. We (The Launchpad and its supporters) strive to deliver a positive experience in all of our community interactions, whether it is a retail experience or game play in the game room at the shop. If you are leery of the tournament I strongly urge you to contact Faust and ask him questions. He will be happy to answer them.
Cody
I think anyone read this post already got the message but more just history and background info for anyone that are interested. Back in 2010-2011 GW came up with a thing call ToS at Las Vegas and is invitation only. How you get an invited is by winning at the list of tournament provided by GW. Mondo Vega came up with a bunch of tournaments for TOS and GW put all those on the list. Many people sign up and hoping for a shot at TOS. Mondo will ask the local game store or group to host the tournament for him and Mondo will provide the space, collect fee, promo, vendors, and organize everything else beside the tournament. Whats happen is that Mondo will only collect the fee and did little of anything else. Here is a list of events that i can remember.
Seattle Conquest - DId not pay the judge and stuff (source Doc Dragon)
Vegas Conquest - Did not happen and no refund
LA Conquest - move to junkyard and change to one day event
SF Conquest - cancel and no refund
Portland Conquest - cancel and no refund
Bellevue Conquest - I went and still waiting for my prize.
SAC Conquest - cancel and no refund
Seattle Conquest next year - cancel by email then rumor has it; the event did happen.
Lets just say i sign up for SAC Conquest. Mondo cancel it again. should i go after Faust, the Launchpad for my refund? what about my traveling cost like flights? what about my Hotel? Or launchpad going to try to host something but then is not a Con anymore but a 16 men local tournament. So i am paying 50 buck for a local tourney while the promise is a Con? Is Faust guarantee SAC Conquest going to happen as planned? Is he paying for the red lion conference room if Mondo pull out again like he did so many times? What about vendor, boardgame, other events, is Faust guarantee those too?
The problem is Mondo has the money and he run with it. Mondo has all the control on all other area of a Con that Faust can't do anything about it. Is Faust prepare to pay for all the promise that Mondo made related to the Con? At the end, Faust be like i am sorry and i am a victim too. Just ask any groups that involved with the list above. Mondo is the TO and the paymaster, What can Faust do after Mondo does his hit and run?
Edited: Faust can be the nicest guy out there but he has no control on the scam. If Mondo pull the rug under him then we all got scam. Faust can be the most honest guy and will not matter. SO when you reply what and who Faust is don't matter. Is what control you have on Mondo to make SAC Conquest happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 08:00:46
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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I have two things to post on this matter. The first is the email chain where Alex/Tyllon gloats that he's the guy bathmouthing "my" event; as if I were Gabriel Vega. My response follows. Regardless of his motivations, his method of execution is grossly juvenile and combative. You can read the email chain between us:
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Subject: about conquest SAC
From: "Tyllon ."
Date: Thu, February 28, 2013 3:34 pm
To: &
I just want you to know i am the guy bad mouthing your event.
Alex
To which I replied:
On 2013-02-28, at 23:14, wrote:
What's funny is that I'm not who you think I am. So you are pissing on the event that people who have done nothing to you are running. Must make you feel big.
To which he muttered:
Date: Fri, March 01, 2013 12:42 am
To:
O and is not around being a big guy. We really got scam if you total groups in the area in seattle is around 10k. And so you know who is talking abt it
The second email chain I received from Gabriel Vega when I informed him that Tyllon/Alex was attacking me as if I were Gabriel. And this is what was forwarded to me:
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:45:50 -0800
From:
To:
Subject: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Hi,
If you are receiving this, it is because you are one of the very few who registered for the Vegas Armageddon event to be held at ConQuest VEGAS this year. Unfortunately, we had very poor signups for the event, and then we got hit with six cancellations this week.
As such, it is untenable to hold the tournaments next weekend, as there are not enough participants for each event to make it viable. In addition, the low attendance makes it financially disastrous to proceed with the event.
Each of you now has two choices. You can ask for a full refund or you can ask to have your tournament fees pushed ahead to a future GT. If you choose to push your fees ahead, then we will have a free GT T-shirt for that event waiting for you at the event.
We thank you folks for your support, but it seems the economic strife has hit Las Vegas very hard this year.
Please send your answers directly to me at thebard@avalongamecon.com and once we have heard from most of you, we will begin issuing refunds. I expect that to begin by next Friday at the latest.
Again, my apologies.
Gabriel Vega
Vegas Armageddon
Event: ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 at 1:00 PM - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 8:00 PM (PT)
Location:
Bally's in Las Vegas
Las Vegas NV
To which Tyllon/Alex replied:
On Fri, 4/16/10, Tyllon . ; wrote:
From: Tyllon . gt;
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
To:
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:51 AM
Hey
I have send 3 email before but I did not get a response. So I assume the whole event is canceled . I will like to move my ticket fee forward in either Vancouver BC, Bellevue WA, Portland OR or Seattle WA. I do have to pay a cancellation fee for my flight. I am hoping i can get some compensation for the cancellation fee by registration for the 3 events listed in the future rather then a free t-shirt. Thank You
Alex
To which Gabriel Vega replied:
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:40:04 -0700
From:
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
To:
Hi Alex,
I am refunding the amount you paid for ConQuest VEGAS today. You should have an email stating from paypal.
In return for the T-shirt I will be enrolling you in the BC Annihilation tournament the weekend of July 9-11, 2010 at the Compass Point Inn in Surrey, BC. You should see your ticket issued today.
That should settle us up for the event. Unfortunately, we just cannot address flight cancellation fees, hotel cancellations fees, etc. We are a very small operation, so hopefully the offer of a full refund and a free admission to the tourney in your neck of the woods will be sufficient. (As a helpful hint, I almost *always* fly Southwest Airlines because they offer 100% replacement on all non-refundable tickets towards the purchase of future tickets with no additional fee ever being charged. With the amount of flights we pay for for staff and special guests at our shows, I always seem to have a couple hundred sitting in that account.)
I took the liberty of signing you up for WHFB, as that is what you were signed up for.
Take care,
Mondo Gabriel
To which Tyllon/Alex replied:
From: Tyllon .
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Hi Mondo
I am happy with the refund and the ticket to BC conquest. I am happy with a free ticket to bc conquest to cover my cost of the cancel fee. I hope to see you at LA if not at BC
Alex
Hmmmm......"I am happy with the refund and the tickect to BC conquest."
I don't know about any of you, but that sounds pretty resolved to me. I think Alex has found a whipping post and has conveniently forgotten his "happiness" with Gabriel's refunds, etc.
As I've mentioned previously in this thread, the ConQuest Sac 2012 convention and Pacificon 2012 both went off without a hitch. Over 1200 people were at Pacificon. No cancellations. No scamming. No hijinks. We expect ConQuest Sac 2013 and Pacificon 2013 will go just as well.
Now, to the point of the 'small' tournament. We have space limits, and we wanted to have a full roster, so 16 players seemed to hit the balance point. We are also providing the tables and scenery, so that requires plenty of prep work for us, on top of the other events and tournaments we are running at the con. What baffles me is that some people seem look down on 16 spots, as if having the same prize pool split by 36 or 60 players is better odds.... Sign up, come play, and have a great chance to win big.
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Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Faust23 wrote:I have two things to post on this matter. The first is the email chain where Alex/Tyllon gloats that he's the guy bathmouthing "my" event; as if I were Gabriel Vega. My response follows. Regardless of his motivations, his method of execution is grossly juvenile and combative. You can read the email chain between us:
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Subject: about conquest SAC
From: "Tyllon ."
Date: Thu, February 28, 2013 3:34 pm
To: &
I just want you to know i am the guy bad mouthing your event.
Alex
To which I replied:
On 2013-02-28, at 23:14, wrote:
What's funny is that I'm not who you think I am. So you are pissing on the event that people who have done nothing to you are running. Must make you feel big.
To which he muttered:
Date: Fri, March 01, 2013 12:42 am
To:
O and is not around being a big guy. We really got scam if you total groups in the area in seattle is around 10k. And so you know who is talking abt it
The second email chain I received from Gabriel Vega when I informed him that Tyllon/Alex was attacking me as if I were Gabriel. And this is what was forwarded to me:
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:45:50 -0800
From:
To:
Subject: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Hi,
If you are receiving this, it is because you are one of the very few who registered for the Vegas Armageddon event to be held at ConQuest VEGAS this year. Unfortunately, we had very poor signups for the event, and then we got hit with six cancellations this week.
As such, it is untenable to hold the tournaments next weekend, as there are not enough participants for each event to make it viable. In addition, the low attendance makes it financially disastrous to proceed with the event.
Each of you now has two choices. You can ask for a full refund or you can ask to have your tournament fees pushed ahead to a future GT. If you choose to push your fees ahead, then we will have a free GT T-shirt for that event waiting for you at the event.
We thank you folks for your support, but it seems the economic strife has hit Las Vegas very hard this year.
Please send your answers directly to me at thebard@avalongamecon.com and once we have heard from most of you, we will begin issuing refunds. I expect that to begin by next Friday at the latest.
Again, my apologies.
Gabriel Vega
Vegas Armageddon
Event: ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 at 1:00 PM - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 8:00 PM (PT)
Location:
Bally's in Las Vegas
Las Vegas NV
To which Tyllon/Alex replied:
On Fri, 4/16/10, Tyllon . ; wrote:
From: Tyllon . gt;
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
To:
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:51 AM
Hey
I have send 3 email before but I did not get a response. So I assume the whole event is canceled . I will like to move my ticket fee forward in either Vancouver BC, Bellevue WA, Portland OR or Seattle WA. I do have to pay a cancellation fee for my flight. I am hoping i can get some compensation for the cancellation fee by registration for the 3 events listed in the future rather then a free t-shirt. Thank You
Alex
To which Gabriel Vega replied:
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:40:04 -0700
From:
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
To:
Hi Alex,
I am refunding the amount you paid for ConQuest VEGAS today. You should have an email stating from paypal.
In return for the T-shirt I will be enrolling you in the BC Annihilation tournament the weekend of July 9-11, 2010 at the Compass Point Inn in Surrey, BC. You should see your ticket issued today.
That should settle us up for the event. Unfortunately, we just cannot address flight cancellation fees, hotel cancellations fees, etc. We are a very small operation, so hopefully the offer of a full refund and a free admission to the tourney in your neck of the woods will be sufficient. (As a helpful hint, I almost *always* fly Southwest Airlines because they offer 100% replacement on all non-refundable tickets towards the purchase of future tickets with no additional fee ever being charged. With the amount of flights we pay for for staff and special guests at our shows, I always seem to have a couple hundred sitting in that account.)
I took the liberty of signing you up for WHFB, as that is what you were signed up for.
Take care,
Mondo Gabriel
To which Tyllon/Alex replied:
From: Tyllon .
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Message to attendees of ConQuest VEGAS - ConQuest GT Vegas Armageddon
Hi Mondo
I am happy with the refund and the ticket to BC conquest. I am happy with a free ticket to bc conquest to cover my cost of the cancel fee. I hope to see you at LA if not at BC
Alex
Hmmmm......"I am happy with the refund and the tickect to BC conquest."
I don't know about any of you, but that sounds pretty resolved to me. I think Alex has found a whipping post and has conveniently forgotten his "happiness" with Gabriel's refunds, etc.
As I've mentioned previously in this thread, the ConQuest Sac 2012 convention and Pacificon 2012 both went off without a hitch. Over 1200 people were at Pacificon. No cancellations. No scamming. No hijinks. We expect ConQuest Sac 2013 and Pacificon 2013 will go just as well.
Now, to the point of the 'small' tournament. We have space limits, and we wanted to have a full roster, so 16 players seemed to hit the balance point. We are also providing the tables and scenery, so that requires plenty of prep work for us, on top of the other events and tournaments we are running at the con. What baffles me is that some people seem look down on 16 spots, as if having the same prize pool split by 36 or 60 players is better odds.... Sign up, come play, and have a great chance to win big.
MOD note : some personal info and email addys removed.
Reds8n
Only if my happiness did't cost me more money like paying for a ticket at the door. his promise never came. I am skipping why i would do that because there are no benefit, he just scam too many people. If you defend a know scammer then you just made ur bed. Is not just me calling his scam you got a pretty long list of people. Is not just me as everyone can see above and their stories.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 15:47:51
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Yeah, in essence, guilt by association sucks, but it is what it is. The guy has just burned too many people and the fact that he wants his name on the event KNOWING how people view him means he is either really dumb or really arrogant. My past experiences dealing with him suggest both. All the guy had to do was simply be a silent partner, really, and no one would have said anything. If anything, a good number of us are concerned for your welfare in this, Faust.
Hopefully, you have none of the issues that litterally everyone else who has come into contact with him has had and things go well. Odds are that this will not be the case, so make sure you take steps to cover your interests.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 17:02:19
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Elusive Dryad
California, USA
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Phazael wrote:Yeah, in essence, guilt by association sucks, but it is what it is.
I agree Phazael, especially when someone like Tyllon assumes you are the guy he has a problem with and rubs it in your face.
I'm not defending anyone. I am relaying information that the accused party presented to me when I forwarded Alex's confrontational email.
I cannot change the past. I can only invite people to come and play in a tournament being hosted by people who have done nothing to members of this community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 17:53:41
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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Faust23 wrote: Phazael wrote:Yeah, in essence, guilt by association sucks, but it is what it is.
I agree Phazael, especially when someone like Tyllon assumes you are the guy he has a problem with and rubs it in your face.
I'm not defending anyone. I am relaying information that the accused party presented to me when I forwarded Alex's confrontational email.
I cannot change the past. I can only invite people to come and play in a tournament being hosted by people who have done nothing to members of this community.
Why forwarded his email. He can come on and defend himself. You have my email (that the whole reason why I email you in the first place) and you should check with me before you post them. I just hope people don't draw the conclusion that you try to defend his vegas scam. What you can do right now is not to host at his event or make sure anyone sign up is not scam by him. Have you ever wonder why there is a RETURN for 40k at his event.
I didnt accuse you of anything. Nothing even impale you are with Mondo on any kind of scam. I didnt assume anything even in my email to you. No one say you are a scam just conquest is a scam. Someone said it already, The Convention is a scam not the tournament. I don't accuse you running a scam and none of my problems are with you.
As you posted my emails and thank you for that. Now everyone can see I did got scam by Mondo. I consider email to be private communication and therefore not for public. As I do have money on the table and pass exp with this guy name Mondo. I lost a very small amount around in my view, (around $800, full flight, ticket, one day off work and maybe the hotel too) because of Mondo. I didn't care and i didn't say much before. But I am not going to just standing by and watch other group of players getting scam by him and not warn them about it. I will feel guilty when i meet someone at a tournament and he say "ya i got scam by Mondo at Conquest Sac" if I just standing by.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/28 18:03:59
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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Sorry for the Threadcromancy.
But Any new news on this? is everything still good?
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Sir Isaac Newton may be the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space, but John von Neumann is the logistics officer that eats your problems and turns them into kit. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/04 00:12:00
Subject: Re:ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Elusive Dryad
California, USA
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Yes it is. The convention is still on and so is the 40K tournament.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/04 01:26:42
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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I wish you guys the best of luck in All aspects of the event.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 11:02:57
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Since Pacificon is coming up in August how did this Con go last year Faust?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/26 18:53:52
Subject: ConQuest SAC 2013 40K Tournament
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Vancouver BC
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Julnlecs wrote:Since Pacificon is coming up in August how did this Con go last year Faust?
I didn't see 40k, fantasy, x-wing, warmachine, etc. in ConQuest SAC 2014 and Pacificon.
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